Waitress fired for posting this online
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what has the waitress done to keep her job?
so if i'm stepping out on my girl, is she going to post that on her facebook page too? if i meeting with a prospective employer and considering leaving my job, will she put that on twitter? not sure what the US gov't has to do with it. no one is saying to prosecute her. but if i own the joint i don't employ people that embarrass my customers
I get your point, however there is a line to be drawn. Granted, the business I am in is much different than food service, but still, I don't want a customer who intentionally causes anguish to my staff members either.0 -
Why exactly does the pastor deserve to maintain privacy? Its a private establishment, not the US government. If you're an idiot, let's trumpet that to the world. Maybe a bit of ridicule will make people think twice about being a moron.
If the waitress owned the restaurant, this would fly. Unfortunately, she violated her employer's written policy and she got fired. That's kinda how it works in the real world. Sucks that it happened and I don't agree w the pastor or her comments at all (see above post), but if you agree to work for a company, you are obliged to follow their rules whether you agree with them or not. I work for the US Gov't... there are LOTS of rules I don't like, but I follow them because I like my job and the rules don't infringe on my day-to-day personal life.0 -
Why exactly does the pastor deserve to maintain privacy? Its a private establishment, not the US government. If you're an idiot, let's trumpet that to the world. Maybe a bit of ridicule will make people think twice about being a moron.
what has the waitress done to keep her job?
so if i'm stepping out on my girl, is she going to post that on her facebook page too? if i meeting with a prospective employer and considering leaving my job, will she put that on twitter? not sure what the US gov't has to do with it. no one is saying to prosecute her. but if i own the joint i don't employ people that embarrass my customers
This is why I don't work in customer service....I am too stubborn. I once made funny faces at a lady who was being a b*tch for no reason to another employee. For those few moments..I turned 6. I have a million other examples...so yeah, I avoid jobs were I have to make random strangers happy. I should work at a morgue, less people complain there.0 -
Why exactly does the pastor deserve to maintain privacy? Its a private establishment, not the US government. If you're an idiot, let's trumpet that to the world. Maybe a bit of ridicule will make people think twice about being a moron.
If the waitress owned the restaurant, this would fly. Unfortunately, she violated her employer's written policy and she got fired. That's kinda how it works in the real world. Sucks that it happened and I don't agree w the pastor or her comments at all (see above post), but if you agree to work for a company, you are obliged to follow their rules whether you agree with them or not. I work for the US Gov't... there are LOTS of rules I don't like, but I follow them because I like my job and the rules don't infringe on my day-to-day personal life.
According to the article I read there was no written rule about what the waitress did.0 -
definitely dont think she should have gotten fired. never been a waitress but kinda feel their pain when it comes to customers who are asswipes.
i dont care if you're a man of god or not. you should always tip someone helping you.0 -
Why exactly does the pastor deserve to maintain privacy? Its a private establishment, not the US government. If you're an idiot, let's trumpet that to the world. Maybe a bit of ridicule will make people think twice about being a moron.
what has the waitress done to keep her job?
so if i'm stepping out on my girl, is she going to post that on her facebook page too? if i meeting with a prospective employer and considering leaving my job, will she put that on twitter? not sure what the US gov't has to do with it. no one is saying to prosecute her. but if i own the joint i don't employ people that embarrass my customers
This ^^
People put up too much online these days. I don't even work in customer service, but there are still many things about my job that I just don't post-- not because it's policy, but because it's tactful.
Not dismissing cheapskate, but you never respond to conflict on the level it was started-- that's what my dad told me growing up.0 -
I'm doubt that they have a written rule that specifically prohibits urinating on customers either, but I'm sure that it falls under one or more rules outlined within their employee guidelines. This humiliating a customer online incident would fit into one or more of their rules as well, I'm sure.According to the article I read there was no written rule about what the waitress did.0 -
My Granny Jo advised me when dating a new guy to pay attention to how he treats people around him, not just how he treats me. How a guy treats a waiter/waitress is a bigger indicator of character than whether he opens my door. This pastor may be a God-fearing Christian but must have missed class the day they taught "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" in seminary. Shame on her. I agree the waitress showed poor judgement and should have blacked out the signature/personal info. But is the pastor proud of herself for tipping zero and then getting her fired for something petty? So much for forgiveness and showing charity to others, more lessons this pastor apparently didn't learn.0
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Let's clarify that the pastor -- as crappy as the no tip thing was -- did not try to get the waitress fired,or celebrate it after the fact. She admitted her guilt.But is the pastor proud of herself for tipping zero and then getting her fired for something petty? So much for forgiveness and showing charity to others, more lessons this pastor apparently didn't learn.“[It was] a lapse in my character and judgment,” Bell told the Smoking Gun, adding she did not expect her easily recognizable signature would be, as her friend informed her, “all over Yahoo. You went viral!”
“My heart is really broken,” Bell added. “I’ve brought embarrassment to my church and ministry.”
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/applebees-waitress-fired-pastor-receipt-193820748.html0 -
The pastor had a goal...hurt the waitress in the only way she could. Which was to leave no money. That sort of maliciousness should be made public.0
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IMO, in every job there's a negative. Being a server, you're bound to get someone NOT to tip you appropriately. I'm sure it's happened more than once. Bad judgement for posting it online. I don't think that employer was out of bounds.
Personally, unless the service was horrible or it's a pick up order, I always tip 20%.
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IMO, in every job there's a negative. Being a server, you're bound to get someone NOT to tip you appropriately. I'm sure it's happened more than once. Bad judgement for posting it online. I don't think that employer was out of bounds.
Personally, unless the service was horrible or it's a pick up order, I always tip 20%.
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I don't think it was about the tip. It was about the retarded *kitten* comment she decided to scribble on the receipt. I doubt that's the first time that waitress ever got stiffed on a bill.0 -
So sad. Hope God sees how his worshiper child treats his other children!
Ha, just more proof that most religious people end up being so hypocritical. Never going to church or taking my children there either. I want them to have real morals.0 -
If a waitress felt that you were rude to her, and wasn't satisfied with your tip, would you mind having your name and her complaint posted publicly?The pastor had a goal...hurt the waitress in the only way she could. Which was to leave no money. That sort of maliciousness should be made public.
If you owned a business that did that kind of thing, would you expect to stay in business very long? Who would go there?0 -
Excellent generalization! :drinker:Ha, just more proof that most religious people end up being so hypocritical.0 -
Aww - she's sorry! How sweet (not). And the 10% she gives God? Seems it goes into her own church that she owns and runs. Hmmmm.....
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/tipping-pastor-apologizes-6872340 -
what gets me is that the 18% is for a party of 8 or more. Even if it was only 8 people....$34.93 was too much for them? sheesh
It was 20 people and they split the checks in an attempt to skirt the auto-tip even though only one person was paying.0 -
Do you think the server would have posted it if they got say 15% in tip?IMO, in every job there's a negative. Being a server, you're bound to get someone NOT to tip you appropriately. I'm sure it's happened more than once. Bad judgement for posting it online. I don't think that employer was out of bounds.
Personally, unless the service was horrible or it's a pick up order, I always tip 20%.
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I don't think it was about the tip. It was about the retarded *kitten* comment she decided to scribble on the receipt. I doubt that's the first time that waitress ever got stiffed on a bill.
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Aww - she's sorry! How sweet (not). And the 10% she gives God? Seems it goes into her own church that she owns and runs. Hmmmm.....
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/tipping-pastor-apologizes-687234
The best part of that article is in the comments below it. This sums up the situation nicely: "Did she feel bad after she stiffed the server? No. Did she feel bad after she complained and got the server fired? No. Did she feel bad after she got outed for being a turd? Yes."0 -
She posted this online, don't know the story but when did resteraunts spy on people online? I know my manager got offended when I wouldn't use my facebook to like their resteraunt mainly cause for one thing not everyone uses facebook and another things my facebook is seperate from my work. It is none of their business what I say outside of work, as long as I am not saying it to other customers or employees at the work area.0
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Do you think the server would have posted it if they got say 15% in tip?IMO, in every job there's a negative. Being a server, you're bound to get someone NOT to tip you appropriately. I'm sure it's happened more than once. Bad judgement for posting it online. I don't think that employer was out of bounds.
Personally, unless the service was horrible or it's a pick up order, I always tip 20%.
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I don't think it was about the tip. It was about the retarded *kitten* comment she decided to scribble on the receipt. I doubt that's the first time that waitress ever got stiffed on a bill.
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The server who waited the table didn't post it according to the article. A friend of her's who was also a server there photographed it and posted, so I am sure it would have been done either way, given the nature of the comment written on the receipt.0 -
i wish there was a website
that customer service employees could upload pictures like this, snapshots of faces, descriptions of horrible customers
all kinds of privacy infringement, i know, but publicly abusing service professionals is much too popular of a pasttime
so public shaming should be happening in turn
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as for getting fired,
yeah, it sucks but
less-than-minimum wage and minimum wage jobs are a dime a dozen
since it takes having 2 or 3 of those suckers crammed into a person's schedule
just to survive0 -
The restaurant did not "spy" on the employee. The photo went viral, and folks began posting it all over the place, until the restaurant caught wind of it.She posted this online, don't know the story but when did resteraunts spy on people online? I know my manager got offended when I wouldn't use my facebook to like their resteraunt mainly cause for one thing not everyone uses facebook...
What happens at work should stay at work, to a degree. Most companies now have policies to assure that this is the case. It is important to prevent the loss of sensitive information. It is also important to avoid having dimwit employees appear to represent the company, and potentially make them look bad... like the case we're discussing here....and another things my facebook is seperate from my work. It is none of their business what I say outside of work, as long as I am not saying it to other customers or employees at the work area.0 -
Can anyone clarify for me? what is the appropriate amount to tip for different services in the US?0
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Can anyone clarify for me? what is the appropriate amount to tip for different services in the US?
Standard is 15-20%0 -
Can anyone clarify for me? what is the appropriate amount to tip for different services in the US?
10-15% is generally considered the bare minimum, but I base it entirely off of service. That said, assuming good service, I never leave anything under $10, I don't care if I had a $6 bill.0 -
i wish there was a website
that customer service employees could upload pictures like this, snapshots of faces, descriptions of horrible customers
all kinds of privacy infringement, i know, but publicly abusing service professionals is much too popular of a pasttime
so public shaming should be happening in turn
Not quite public shaming, but venting abounds at http://notalwaysright.com/0 -
Just watched a vid on the story. The pastor said that the tip still came off her credit card, AND she left $6 on the table.
She must have just been pissed at seeing the 18% auto-gratuity along with a space to leave another tip, I guess? That auto 18% would not happen for a solo diner at any Applebees here (in Canada), but I digress. Bad judgement calls on both sides, and yeah the server should know better than to put anything work-related with names intact online like that.0 -
Just watched a vid on the story. The pastor said that the tip still came off her credit card, AND she left $6 on the table.
Yeah, I heard that too...the difference is that I don't believe it for a second, given what she wrote on that receipt. So, she stiffs servers, AND she's a liar. Bravo Pastor...shall we try for the trifecta?0 -
Just watched a vid on the story. The pastor said that the tip still came off her credit card, AND she left $6 on the table.
She must have just been pissed at seeing the 18% auto-gratuity along with a space to leave another tip, I guess? That auto 18% would not happen for a solo diner at any Applebees here (in Canada), but I digress. Bad judgement calls on both sides, and yeah the server should know better than to put anything work-related like that with names intact online like that.
True that it came off her card, but she didn't think it would seeing as she crossed it out and ignored that in the total she wrote down. Also, even if she actually left $6 cash, that's nowhere near adequate for a table of 20 guests. The receipt in the image only shows $34 because they split the checks trying to avoid the gratuity.0
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