Waitress fired for posting this online

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  • Natihilator
    Natihilator Posts: 1,778 Member
    True that it came off her card, but she didn't think it would seeing as she crossed it out and ignored that in the total she wrote down. Also, even if she actually left $6 cash, that's nowhere near adequate for a table of 20 guests. The receipt in the image only shows $34 because they split the checks trying to avoid the gratuity.

    Oh that detail about it being 20 people was left out of the video, lol. That changes things QUITE a bit then! :laugh:
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    There's also a mini-campaign going around Facebook of people calling Applebee's corporate and letting them know that they will not be dining there again until the waitress is reinstated. Might as well throw my name into that hat, since I almost never eat there anyway.
  • besaro
    besaro Posts: 1,858 Member
    god gets 10%? lmao.
  • DeBiKin
    DeBiKin Posts: 107 Member
    I'm a Christian but I have also been a waitress.
    I know that all too many Christians tip very poorly which gives all Christians a bad name.
    If I take a moment to pray before eating then it is obvious that I have some sort of faith so I don't want to perpetuate the stereotype by stiffing someone who is only making minimum wage and has to pay social security taxes on my tip even if I don't tip. That is why I make it a point to tip right around 20% (sometimes more) and that is before any discounts and I will add a little if I just had a free water because the waitress had to bring it to me the same as if I ordered a soda.

    If this is not a hoax then:
    1. The pastor should never have written "Pastor" on the receipt (it makes him look self righteous and makes God look bad).
    2. Could the jerk get away with telling the IRS the same thing... well, actually, he can (not helping the jerk's appearance).
    3. He is not supposed to brag about anything that he gives to God, his offering becomes worthless.
    4. This jerk never heard my preacher who said, "Do not put Christian bumper stickers on your car and then drive like a jerk".
    5. The restaurant probably legally had to fire her but I hope someone else gives her a much better job.
    6. That pastor should REPENT!!! :P
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    Is the diner (pastor or not, christian or not) a cheap jerk? yes. no one is debating that.

    can you publicly expose your customers as cheap jerks and not expect repercussions? of course not.


    there was a story when peyton manning was visiting teams when he was a free agent last summer. he went to a prominent steakhouse in denver and left a very generous tip. waiter uploaded it to twitter, saying how nice peyton was. WAITER GOT FIRED. and he should. you don't put your customer's business in the streets.

    I'll post the receipt. a big tip was already included in the bill, but peyton dropped 2 bills on top. nice guy. but that's his private biz. and for lot of people being known as being very generous is worse than being known as a cheapskate. either way, FIRED

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    edited to add correction: I had heard the story happened in denver, but i read now that it was north carolina
  • susantrigg18
    susantrigg18 Posts: 49
    QUOTE:

    Can anyone clarify for me? what is the appropriate amount to tip for different services in the US?


    Thanks everyone, appreciate it...Visiting the US in August & not being familiar with your tipping etiquette, thought i`d ask as i certainly don't want to offend anyone
  • draco706
    draco706 Posts: 174 Member
    where are you from? I know in much of Europe waitstaff earn a living wage, unlike in the US...
  • susantrigg18
    susantrigg18 Posts: 49
    where are you from? I know in much of Europe waitstaff earn a living wage, unlike in the US...


    Draco, I'm from Australia & for the most part the wages here are good to very good, so its not customary to tip here.
  • chyloet
    chyloet Posts: 196 Member
    I'm gonna be honest, the only way I would ever do this is if I received terrible service and didn't feel that the server deserved the 18%. I'm sorry that servers make minimum wage (There is no way that they earn less, that's why it's called "minimum wage". Hence the term "minimum" wage.) if that doesn't work for them and they can't provide the customer service required to earn a decent tip then they should go to school and/or get a different job. Just sayin.

    That being said, I think it was irrelevant for the customer to state that she only "gives God 10%". What does that have to do with the price of tea in China???
  • CarlieeBear
    CarlieeBear Posts: 325 Member
    I'm gonna be honest, the only way I would ever do this is if I received terrible service and didn't feel that the server deserved the 18%. I'm sorry that servers make minimum wage (There is no way that they earn less, that's why it's called "minimum wage". Hence the term "minimun wage".) if that doesn't work for them and they can't provide the customer service required to earn a decent tip then they should go to school and/or get a different job. Just sayin.

    That being said, I think it was irrelevant for the customer to state that she only "gives God 10%". What does that have to do with the price of tea in China???

    There at least used to be a separate min. wage for servers who get tips.

    As a Christian, I also find this offensive. If I went to this pastor's church, I'd find another. First, the pastor is rude and doesn't know how to live as a reflection of Christ. Being a generous tipper is much more Christian. Second, the pastor is stupid. I don't want to have a stupid person in a role where they're teaching me. She gives 10% of her income. The waiter gets a percent of the bill, not the customer's income...
  • Shock_Wave
    Shock_Wave Posts: 1,573 Member
    I'm sorry that servers make minimum wage (There is no way that they earn less, that's why it's called "minimum wage". Hence the term "minimum" wage.) if that doesn't work for them and they can't provide the customer service required to earn a decent tip then they should go to school and/or get a different job.

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  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    No didn't deserve firing.

    The fact that you would even compare God and your waitress is idiotic.
  • brevislux
    brevislux Posts: 1,093 Member
    I'm gonna be honest, the only way I would ever do this is if I received terrible service and didn't feel that the server deserved the 18%. I'm sorry that servers make minimum wage (There is no way that they earn less, that's why it's called "minimum wage". Hence the term "minimum" wage.) if that doesn't work for them and they can't provide the customer service required to earn a decent tip then they should go to school and/or get a different job. Just sayin.

    That being said, I think it was irrelevant for the customer to state that she only "gives God 10%". What does that have to do with the price of tea in China???
    I know in some places, people simply break the law by paying the waiters less than minimum, because "they get tips". Of course the waiters who cooperate with this are to blame too, but I guess some of them are just uninformed.
  • Verity1111
    Verity1111 Posts: 3,309 Member
    That pastor is a jerk. Sorry, but God would not support stiffing people of the money they work for, in my opinion. I doubt God needs that 10% to feed his kids, but the waitress may need it for that very reason.
  • Verity1111
    Verity1111 Posts: 3,309 Member
    I'm gonna be honest, the only way I would ever do this is if I received terrible service and didn't feel that the server deserved the 18%. I'm sorry that servers make minimum wage (There is no way that they earn less, that's why it's called "minimum wage". Hence the term "minimum" wage.) if that doesn't work for them and they can't provide the customer service required to earn a decent tip then they should go to school and/or get a different job. Just sayin.

    That being said, I think it was irrelevant for the customer to state that she only "gives God 10%". What does that have to do with the price of tea in China???
    This is sort of true and sort of not true. Some servers make less than minimum wage and the employer is forced to make up the difference if their tips don't add up to minimum wage for the hours worked. That is how it works in Illinois, so you can pay a server/waiter/waitress well under the minimum for other work.
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
    It was in poor taste on both ends. As a Christian, the pastor's actions disgust and repulse me (wish I could come up with a stronger word). BUT it was probably in poor taste to post it online to a PUBLIC site-- it's not even like it was the waitress' private Facebook page, it was a public site...NOT the best idea.

    But, wow...not tipping? Who cares what you drop in the offering basket?

    This. The waitress did a dumb thing, but I'd hope a pastor could own up to the crappy deed and turn the other cheek. Shame on the pastor for stiffing the waitress in God's name. Double shame on the pastor for seeking vengeance on the waitress. (The pastor's complaining got the waitress fired.) I hope she doesn't have kids to feed now that she's lost her livelihood.
  • celestialbadger
    celestialbadger Posts: 44
    Is the standard reaction to disciplinary issues in the States immediate dismissal? I would've thought a written warning would be more appropriate.
  • kelly_e_montana
    kelly_e_montana Posts: 1,999 Member
    I was a server/bartender part-time or full-time for 17 years and I give this girl mad props. We all get stiffed. However, it's not the lack of a tip that's the issue, it's the rude comment and the fact that the customer is supposed to be a woman of God. I get stiffed all the time when I tell people I can't legally serve them any more alcohol and offer to buy them a free cab. I've even had people threaten to shoot me over it.

    I think public shaming is good. I think the corporation just feared the negative PR. There is no legal contract for privacy like there is in health care, education, or banking. I can understand why they fired her over the PR issue if she didn't black out the name. She should also adjust her Facebook privacy settings so her employer can't see what she's posting.

    I wouldn't do it but I think it's awesome.
  • Verity1111
    Verity1111 Posts: 3,309 Member
    I just want to add that I also can not stand automatic tips because I think some servers don't deserve it.
  • KarenJanine
    KarenJanine Posts: 3,497 Member
    I think it's fair she got fired, it shouldn't have been posted online.

    We don't get to see the other side of the story, perhaps the service had been bad or the food had been poor. When I eat out I tip based on the service I have received. It is by definition 'gratuity', i.e. money given in return for service and should not be an expected amount.

    I'm in the UK though so I know the custom of tipping here is very different to the US.
  • KarenJanine
    KarenJanine Posts: 3,497 Member
    I just want to add that I also can not stand automatic tips because I think some servers don't deserve it.

    This. Tipping is optional and should be based on the service.
  • VelociMama
    VelociMama Posts: 3,119 Member
    Is the diner (pastor or not, christian or not) a cheap jerk? yes. no one is debating that.

    can you publicly expose your customers as cheap jerks and not expect repercussions? of course not.


    there was a story when peyton manning was visiting teams when he was a free agent last summer. he went to a prominent steakhouse in denver and left a very generous tip. waiter uploaded it to twitter, saying how nice peyton was. WAITER GOT FIRED. and he should. you don't put your customer's business in the streets.

    I'll post the receipt. a big tip was already included in the bill, but peyton dropped 2 bills on top. nice guy. but that's his private biz. and for lot of people being known as being very generous is worse than being known as a cheapskate. either way, FIRED

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    edited to add correction: I had heard the story happened in denver, but i read now that it was north carolina

    I had a job as a waitress in a very nice upscale place in college, and this kind of behavior is a huge no-no especially if the restaurant regularly gets big-name clients. Indiscretion is bad for business.

    Waitstaff wasn't even allowed to bring cameras or phones or any recording devices into work. If you got caught with it, you were fired.
  • smantha32
    smantha32 Posts: 6,990 Member
    i wish there was a website

    that customer service employees could upload pictures like this, snapshots of faces, descriptions of horrible customers

    all kinds of privacy infringement, i know, but publicly abusing service professionals is much too popular of a pasttime

    so public shaming should be happening in turn

    There was a website called www.bitterwaitress.com, that had all kinds of service industry posts.
    It's gone now though and it reroutes to a facebook page. I looked around and didn't see any stories yet. It looks like it's new.
  • smantha32
    smantha32 Posts: 6,990 Member
    I'm gonna be honest, the only way I would ever do this is if I received terrible service and didn't feel that the server deserved the 18%. I'm sorry that servers make minimum wage (There is no way that they earn less, that's why it's called "minimum wage". Hence the term "minimum" wage.) if that doesn't work for them and they can't provide the customer service required to earn a decent tip then they should go to school and/or get a different job. Just sayin.

    That being said, I think it was irrelevant for the customer to state that she only "gives God 10%". What does that have to do with the price of tea in China???

    Waiters don't earn minimum wage. They get about 2.50 an hour. The rest is supposed to come from tips.
    Sometimes they might do really well, sometimes they can be there all night or day and make nothing.
  • roolmc
    roolmc Posts: 47
    In the context of tipping custom in the US I think the client was being an *kitten*, but I also think paying waiting staff $2.50 is a joke. As the employee I wouldn't have publicly posted it, as the employer I'm not sure what I would do. Probably just reprimand the employee and leave it at that, unless it was not a first time offence.

    In the UK the minimum wage is £6.19 ($9.83) per hour and restaurants cannot pay less and use tips to top it up. So tipping culture is very different here. That said I still tip about 10% if the service is good. But, if it's been automatically added to my bill and I'm paying by card I'll ask to have it removed and then leave a cash tip so that is goes into the right hands.

    - https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates
    - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7533863.stm
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    I'm gonna be honest, the only way I would ever do this is if I received terrible service and didn't feel that the server deserved the 18%. I'm sorry that servers make minimum wage (There is no way that they earn less, that's why it's called "minimum wage". Hence the term "minimum" wage.) if that doesn't work for them and they can't provide the customer service required to earn a decent tip then they should go to school and/or get a different job. Just sayin.

    That being said, I think it was irrelevant for the customer to state that she only "gives God 10%". What does that have to do with the price of tea in China???
    I know in some places, people simply break the law by paying the waiters less than minimum, because "they get tips". Of course the waiters who cooperate with this are to blame too, but I guess some of them are just uninformed.
    There is no law-breaking. The minimum wage legally set for servers is much less than the minimum wage for everyone else.

    I think the pastor is a jerk and if I went to her church, I would stop. I also think Applebees was within its rights to fire the waitress. I don't ever eat there, anyway. The food is awful.
  • RobfromLakewood
    RobfromLakewood Posts: 684
    If the pastor doesn't want to be embarrassed for being a jerk, then the solution is to not be a jerk. I find it insane that she signed her name to blatant disrespect and then feels injured that people know she behaves this way. Set tips for large parties is pretty standard and posted on menus. Besides writing rude remarks, cheating the waitress of her money and complaining when her behavior is made public, she should also understand tithing is not God's tip.

    I will never go to Applebees or IHOP ever again. When a company fires someone because they think a customer deserves privacy when being insulting to their staff, I'm glad that there are so many better options than DineEquity, the gutless owner of these two restaurant chains.

    If I behave like an *kitten* and pay the cost for it, I don't blame the person who exposed it, I blame the person who behaves that way, me.
  • consumone
    consumone Posts: 139 Member
    I get the whole privacy thing, but dude okay Paster - you took the largest table, you had a tab of $34.00 and you spent what 2 hours - HELLO that is her livelyhood.

    Jerk is all I have to say and I am sorry that the waitress got fired.
  • stephdeeable
    stephdeeable Posts: 1,407 Member
    It's always been my opinion that if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to eat at a restaurant.
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
    I find what the 'pastor' did her to be absolutely disgusting. I think she should have made sure the signature wasn't visible when posting. This is actually the first picture of it where I saw the signature. Everywhere else it was cut off.

    That woman is no Christian and no 'pastor'.

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