Waitress fired for posting this online
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Reminded me of this upsetting picture:
single mom, but she can afford a 140 dollar meal at a restaurant and can't give 10%,....disgusting0 -
I agree with the majority...the waitress should not have posted the receipt with the name shown, however, it is very sad that a pastor would act this way....including bragging about how much she tithes. How much a person tithes (and whether they tithe at all) is a matter between them and God, it's a personnel matter, not something to brag about.0
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Here tipping is up to you. If the service is good you give a good tip, if not you don't. There are some places its mandatory but mostly not. Maybe she didn't give a great service?
I think she was very wrong to post that on Facebook with a signature showing. Without the signature maybe she could have got away with it, if this person worked for me and put this up, a lot of people may not come to my restaurant... Customers have every right to privacy. I would have ley her go too.
In every line of customer service, you get difficult customers. It's part of the job and something you have to just accept. 18% does seem quite high to me also, considering here I'm already paying 20% tax too!0 -
Where did you get this? How do you know the waitress was fired? Because it was online?
And.... who cares if she got stiffed? I waited tables, made a lot of money too. Sometimes you don't get a tip. It doesn't help to complain about it. DRIVE ON!!
No, that should not be posted online, so if I were her manager, I would fire her as well.
It has nothing to do with religion, it has everything to do with ethics.0 -
So what if instead of Applebee's she worked at a pharmacy and instead of an embarassing tip she was posting a "OMG look what this customer takes" receipt picture. Same exact thing. Be a professional no matter what your job is. Take the good with the bad. You simply cannot throw a public trantrum everytime something pisses you off at work. If you do eventually you're employer will determine you don't like your job and will find someone else who does like your job to replace you.0
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She the "PASTOR" is an idiot!!!!!!!!!0
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I waited on tables when I was in college. I can relate to how this woman feels; getting stiffed it one thing, but having it rubbed in your face in such a rude fashion (not because of service, but because of belief) is just rotten.
I read an article about this that indicated the pastor who wrote the snooty note was embarrassed and said she brought shame to her church or something like that.
Now, whilst I do agree that her name should have been blacked out, I do also get the feeling that if she didn't want this to be seen, then she would have just said something, and not have written it on the ticket. I personally believe that she should be embarrassed, and hopefully this event has taught her a lesson.
It was my impression that the teachings of the bible include something called compassion...She showed this woman who works for tips no compassion, and ended up getting her fired; that's not very Christian like if you ask me - especially for a pastor (but what do I know? I'm an atheist.)
The pastor could have chosen to ignore it instead of making a big deal out of it. I'm pretty sure that had the pastor done something charitable (like given a very large tip,) and the waitress posted that online I doubt she would have cared, and I doubt the waitress would have been fired.0 -
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My Granny Jo advised me when dating a new guy to pay attention to how he treats people around him, not just how he treats me. How a guy treats a waiter/waitress is a bigger indicator of character than whether he opens my door. This pastor may be a God-fearing Christian but must have missed class the day they taught "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" in seminary. Shame on her. I agree the waitress showed poor judgement and should have blacked out the signature/personal info. But is the pastor proud of herself for tipping zero and then getting her fired for something petty? So much for forgiveness and showing charity to others, more lessons this pastor apparently didn't learn.
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What;s the back story on it? All I'm seeing is a tab.. There has to be more to it than just this...0
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thisWhy exactly does the pastor deserve to maintain privacy? Its a private establishment, not the US government. If you're an idiot, let's trumpet that to the world. Maybe a bit of ridicule will make people think twice about being a moron.0 -
Pastor is an *kitten* and I hope he gets a TON of grief for it...because previous poster is correct, that is part of WAGES!
Even God would disagree with this...well he would if he really gave a crap about any of us..but I digress.
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What;s the back story on it? All I'm seeing is a tab.. There has to be more to it than just this...
A waitress posted this on Reddit, a site where you post items (news stories, links, your own stuff). People can upvote or downvote the items. If you get enough votes you get to the front page and millions of people see what you've posted which is what happened here.0 -
I read an article about this that indicated the pastor who wrote the snooty note was embarrassed and said she brought shame to her church or something like that.
Now, whilst I do agree that her name should have been blacked out, I do also get the feeling that if she didn't want this to be seen, then she would have just said something, and not have written it on the ticket. I personally believe that she should be embarrassed, and hopefully this event has taught her a lesson.
The pastor could have chosen to ignore it instead of making a big deal out of it. I'm pretty sure that had the pastor done something charitable (like given a very large tip,) and the waitress posted that online I doubt she would have cared, and I doubt the waitress would have been fired.
I'm sure she isn't sorry PC just means she has to be
There is no lesson to be taught
Big deal - As could the waitress?0 -
thisWhy exactly does the pastor deserve to maintain privacy? Its a private establishment, not the US government. If you're an idiot, let's trumpet that to the world. Maybe a bit of ridicule will make people think twice about being a moron.
Can I have the phone number for your doctors office? I'd like to call and check your medical history to see if there's anything funny in. You have no right to privacy since your doctor is a private establishment and not the goverment.0 -
I keep seeing a lot of people referring to the pastor as "he". The pastor was a woman. The one thing the pastor got wrong, is that the 10% to your church is 10% of your income. The 18% tip is only 18% of the meal total. Big difference there. The pastor then called Applebees and demanded the woman get fired. She'll be judged one day.
How can you tell the pastor is a woman? I can't even read the first name. Honestly, when I first read it, I didn't even look at the name, I just saw "Pastor". In 36 years of church attendance, I've never sat under a female pastor, so I referred to this pastor as "he" purely out of years of habit. Male or female, I hardly think that's something to nit pick about, as the real issue here is their deplorable behavior. You're right. ANYONE who brings shame upon the name of Christ as this pastor has done, will have alot to answer for.0 -
Now this is something that may get this slightly off-topic, but I've learned that in tonight's episode of "Undercover Boss," one employee is going to get fired because he clearly says, "I hate serving customers." He has no earthly idea he's said that to the CEO of Boston Market, who's posing undercover!
As for this issue, it's really wrong on both sides. The pastor should've given a tip, and the waitress should never have posted that receipt online.
Facebook is something all employees working anywhere have to be very careful about. Teachers have gotten fired because of Facebook photos showing them drinking beer or being in compromising situations. Employers are now watching what's posted on Facebook, and that can lead to job termination.0 -
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It's easy to say public shaming is a good thing until it's done to you.
Have you ever been late on a bill? I know I have made that mistake before. If this type of thing were legal what's to stop say Verizon from telling everyone on my most called list that I'm a deadbeat and am a week late on my phone bill? What's to stop American Express from threatening to post the names of every person in arrears on their card in a large print add in the local paper? What's to stop banks from putting a permanent notice on vehicles that are behind on their car payments?
Privacy matters. The patron was a schmuck, but that doesn't justify this.0 -
Yeah, unfortunately the employee had to go. The pastor is despicable but you can't go posting someone's receipts online.0
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People who can't afford to tip don't deserve to go out and enjoy such services plain and simple. Stay home and cook your own meals or do your own hair. The people who are trying to make you happy LIVE off those tips!
She shouldn't have posted private transaction information and that's why she was fired. She could have ranted about it, but not posted the picture and still had her job.0 -
Wow a pastor wrote that? Hmm..maybe if Christians helped the poor and struggling and supported hard working people barely making a livable wage, she wouldn't need a tip. UNTIL the Christian community practices what they preach, they better TIP. And tip well.
This pastor has more than likely lost a chance to share the gospel with her. How about putting a tip inside a tract or something? My pastor would do that all the time. Sure maybe it won't get read..but eventually..maybe..the waitresses would remember the pastor that always came in with a tip and tract and that would lead her or others to seeking out Christ from GOOD memories of their encounters with Christians.
This pastor missed an opportunity to witness and share his faith. God will hold him accountable.0 -
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As a Christian, I also find this offensive. If I went to this pastor's church, I'd find another. First, the pastor is rude and doesn't know how to live as a reflection of Christ. Being a generous tipper is much more Christian. Second, the pastor is stupid. I don't want to have a stupid person in a role where they're teaching me. She gives 10% of her income. The waiter gets a percent of the bill, not the customer's income...
As a preacher's kid, I completely agree with this^^ Kindness and generosity are traits Christians should exemplify. I would be ashamed to know that my pastor did this.
That said, I do understand why the waitress got fired. I think it is truly unfortunate, but she retaliated in a way that crossed a legal line according to restuarant policy.0 -
So what if instead of Applebee's she worked at a pharmacy and instead of an embarassing tip she was posting a "OMG look what this customer takes" receipt picture. Same exact thing. Be a professional no matter what your job is. Take the good with the bad. You simply cannot throw a public trantrum everytime something pisses you off at work. If you do eventually you're employer will determine you don't like your job and will find someone else who does like your job to replace you.
No it is not the same thing. HIPAA is a federal law that covers the privacy of medical information. It is illegal ofr a doctor's office, hospital, pharmacy, etc, to disclose medical information without authorization.
I am not aware of a similar law covering credit card receipts. Is it inappropriate, yes, Can an employer fire you for it, yes. But, unlike medical information, not illegal.0 -
This is true. It's not illegal to post it. I think what companies need to do is show exactly what the privacy policy states, since it differs from one company to another. Employees need to understand posting on a public forum can make them subjected to violating that privacy policy. It would almost be like me posting everything I do at my job, which I know I can't with a very strict confidentiality policy. (For the record, I work for a yearbook company, and we get a letter about this every year to reinforce that policy.)No it is not the same thing. HIPAA is a federal law that covers the privacy of medical information. It is illegal ofr a doctor's office, hospital, pharmacy, etc, to disclose medical information without authorization.
I am not aware of a similar law covering credit card receipts. Is it inappropriate, yes, Can an employer fire you for it, yes. But, unlike medical information, not illegal.0 -
Here in the UK tipping is different. Minimum wage for waiting staff is the same minimum wage that other professions have. The standard here is 10%, there are a few places that will add it automatically to the bill, but if you cross it off, they cannot charge you that.
Having said that, I am usually too soft and find it difficult not to leave a tip, even if the service and food has been appalling.
The Pastor was obviously being deliberately rude. There was no need for it and it certainly doesn’t seem a Christan thing to do at all.
However, if the company do have a privacy policy and the waitress broke that then yeah she should be fired. The company I work for have a very clear social media policy and if I was to go posting things up on Facebook about my work and they found out I could definitely be fired for it.
Oh and I am quite sure that she must have broken some rules that count as gross misconduct, as if not, it would be very easy for the waitress to sue for unfair dismissal. A lot of companies now make sure they are 100% covered about things like this in their policies.0 -
i didn't read every post, but i wanted to clear something up up:
the waitress DID get a tip. since the pastor's party was more than 8 people, an 18% gratuity was added automatically. this is pretty standard practice in US restaurants. the pastor crossing it out and writing "$0" didn't change that.
that being said: the pictures i saw of the receipt didn't show the pastor's name. i'm assuming that Yahoo! edited it out, and that the full name was posted on reddit. i can understand that that is a huge violation of privacy, even if there is nothing in the Applebee's handbook about it. should the waitress have been fired? probably not, without an actual rule or procedure in place within the organization. but i can understand why they arrived at that conclusion.
and let's not pretend for a second that this pastor feels bad for what she did or actually wants to apologize. she got called out for using God's name as an excuse to stiff a hard worker, and that's unexcusable in my book.
i feel really bad for the waitress, and i hope she is able both to find a job with customers and supervisors who treat her better in the future, as well as exercise more discretion in these types of situations.
Oh yes you can refuse to pay the gratuity -- just because it's typed out all nice and pretty on the check doesn't mean the customer is *required* to pay it.0 -
So what if instead of Applebee's she worked at a pharmacy and instead of an embarassing tip she was posting a "OMG look what this customer takes" receipt picture. Same exact thing. Be a professional no matter what your job is. Take the good with the bad. You simply cannot throw a public trantrum everytime something pisses you off at work. If you do eventually you're employer will determine you don't like your job and will find someone else who does like your job to replace you.
No it is not the same thing. HIPAA is a federal law that covers the privacy of medical information. It is illegal ofr a doctor's office, hospital, pharmacy, etc, to disclose medical information without authorization.
I am not aware of a similar law covering credit card receipts. Is it inappropriate, yes, Can an employer fire you for it, yes. But, unlike medical information, not illegal.
I didn't say it was illegal. I just think she is wrong. As you said, it's up the employer to take care of it. I'm sure Applebees has a business ethics section in their corporate manual. Pretty sure posting a customer's receipt is a no no.0 -
If the customer chose not to tip, then that's just the way it is. Life isn't fair. In the end, the waitress did use bad judgement since clearly it cost her a job, which is much more than a six dollar tip. Life lesson hopefully learned.0
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