Waitress fired for posting this online
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and why did he have to put "pastor" on his reciept, does he think he deserves special attention...I have waitressed and the so-called pastors are the cheapest in my area...and they are supposed to use Jesus as a role model..he was humble, washed his disciples feet, and didnt throw around the fact that God was/is his Father...she should of blacked out the name. Rules are rules and if you work for a company like that you should have known that. She should of let it go and been the bigger person too...Having been a waitress myself, my answer to that EXTREMELY rude pastor's comment would be:
a) You could give God more than 10% if you wanted...it has nothing to do with me how much you choose to give or not give.
b) Tips are part of my wages. I make $2.40 an hour. Not tipping is causing me to make less than minimum wage.
I'm disgusted.
And no, I do NOT think the waitress should have been fired for posting it online. Although she probably should have blurred out the signature or something.0 -
I am appaled that a person as Pastor Alois Bell is leading a congregation... If a server earned his or her tip, then don't be an a**hole about it... Maybe you couldn't afford to leave a 6 dollar tip, but I am sure you can spare $2.
The waitress shouldn't have posted this, but I think it is the Pastor who should get the sack. A disgrace to God and her congregation.0 -
That was just plain rude for the pastor to write. And to cross the tip out, I didn't think you could do that if it was part of the bill. And no I don't care how much you give God, you can give him 18% too if you would like. But I also don't think the pastor's name should have been posted and depending on Applebees policy, it probably was not in the waitresses best interest to post the bill online.0
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I'm gonna be honest, the only way I would ever do this is if I received terrible service and didn't feel that the server deserved the 18%. I'm sorry that servers make minimum wage (There is no way that they earn less, that's why it's called "minimum wage". Hence the term "minimum" wage.) if that doesn't work for them and they can't provide the customer service required to earn a decent tip then they should go to school and/or get a different job. Just sayin.
That being said, I think it was irrelevant for the customer to state that she only "gives God 10%". What does that have to do with the price of tea in China???
Waiters don't earn minimum wage. They get about 2.50 an hour. The rest is supposed to come from tips.
Sometimes they might do really well, sometimes they can be there all night or day and make nothing.
Thank you! I worked from January to August as a server & bartender. I'm not going to say what I made but I will tell you that it's TERRIBLE. Oh by the way, I did go to school. I have a bachelor's degree in Biomedical Technology. This economy sucks and I have to go get a Master's degree just to get a job in my field. I'm also unemployed and thankful that my boyfriend can pay our bills while i go to school or I would be in food service forever...
BTW some people don't tip. Ever. No matter how the service was, no matter how many times I went and filled every little request a 1,000 times, no tip. Most of these people will complain just to get their food for free. I've seen it done hundreds of times0 -
From what I can tell it was never said if the other 19 people left a tip on the table. From the messages here we also don't know what kind of service the waitress gave. I have been in large groups and been served the wrong food, very slow, attitude etc. Should I be required to pay the tip?
We walk into a restaurant sit down and have to wait to be waited on then we have to tip. We walk into a retail establishment and people wait on us, friendly, nice helpful and it is not a requirement and we don't tip. Something is messed up. I feel the restaurants need to pay their people like every other place of employment has to at least minimum wage. The price of food may go up but then we would not be required to tip. It becomes an option.
The waitress shoul not have posted the receipt putting the place where she works in bad light. The Pastor should not have written what she did because it is not the waitresses fault. But by placing the article on line the waitress lowered herself to the level of the person she was putting down. Two wrongs don't make a right.0 -
And why did you assume the pastor is a he... it's a she.and why did he have to put "pastor" on his reciept, does he think he deserves special attention...0 -
The thing is that the reason she was fired is a good one. She could have made public that information for ANY reason. Just because she wasn't tipped doesn't give her the right to break privacy like that. She could have done it because she just didn't like the people. Because she wasn't to humiliate them for some reason. The fact that they were jerks and didn't tip doesn't give her the right to break a persons privacy like that and violate policy.
Again, what if your server did this (and mind you there are some that have full credit card numbers) just to make fun of what you ate. "lol, look at what this Cow ordered. Did she really need that cake?" Along with a receipt showing the name and order?
It was stupid and I'm glad Applebee's is protecting the right to privacy of their customers. I don't want to think that my credit card information or anything could be spread around by an employee with a grudge.0 -
It doesn't really matter what everyone says about Applebee's right to fire the waitress. If their actions in firing her causes them to lose more business than telling a cheap skate customer "sorry" and slapping the wrist of the fired employee...Applebees can have all the 'rights' in the world. They still messed up because the firestorm they created is more problematic than a customer who already isn't a very good customer.0
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GOOD FOR APPLEBEE'S!0
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People like this make me want to choke the piss out of them...the pastor, not the waitress. Am I the only person who doesn't base their tip off of some arbitrary percentage anyway? I don't give God ****, but I have no problem with leaving a $60 tip on a $60 bill, assuming the service was worth it, and well timed. I am a hard person to read, and my wants can be very strange in a restaurant, so when a waiter/tress gets it 100% right, they deserve a 100% tip.
Regardless, for her to base her tip off of something so frivolous as her religion makes me want to drag her out back and smash her kneecaps.
WOW!! The rage!0 -
Being a customer does not = the right to be a d***.
When you are being a d*** you are supposed to get s*** for it, otherwise how are you to learn when you are being a d***?
Seems fine to me.
The customer was violating the rules that are clearly posted on the menus for parties of individuals.
Then again it is always fun to meet people who have never worked in retail or any service industries. You can spot them a mile away with how they treat people or respond to situations like this.
I hate when companies protect customers instead of their staff.0 -
I think the so called pastor was a bit of a **** for the way he put it... but, i do think that tipping is a bit of a horrible practice, No-one else gets tips, my job is a hell of a lot harder than being a waitress, I get no tips, and i don't complain about my pay cheque,
I think its pretty unfair that i have to earn my money without expecting pity handouts, struggle to pay the food prices a a 'nice place' and they go ahead and add a ridiculous percentage onto the bill for already overpriced food.
That being said, if i do have a particularly nice sever i will tip them directly, instead of it going through the books.
And I'm sure you make at least minimum wage; servers do NOT make minimum wage. Their income is dependent on tips
And you must live in the backwoods; some po-dunk area b/c my RENT alone is $600 and that's cheap compared to other places.
I dont know what you do for a living and I dont know how you think you know how hard this woman works in comparison to yourself? Perhaps you should become a waitress and then youll get the ips (or not) that you envy? Point is not how hard done by you are, point is she LOST her job and beats you hands down now! Its not a handout she not claiming welfare! She providing a service to the best of her ability hoping that it will be appreciated. To actually write that on the bill from a god fearing person is outrageous!! Just dont tip... leave out the nasty comment.0 -
If you choose to go out in society and eat in an establishment where you are waited on by a staff, and you don't go through a line and get your own food...you are accepting the societal rules that state you tip.
IF you're in a culture where the rule is that you tip. Plenty of cultures DON'T tip.0 -
I think we can tell who the cheap tippers are.GOOD FOR APPLEBEE'S!0 -
The waitress was fired after the horrible b****, Pastor Alois Bell, called the restaurant and demanded she be fired. Now, she's complaining to everybody who will listen that this "lapse in judgement destroyed her reputation." What an awful woman. If I ever see her in the street, I'll spit on her.
OMG how awfull!!0 -
According to the article I read the group as a whole made a cash tip for the waitress, so it's not that she didn't tip. She did tip in cash she did not allow the 18% to be added on as well. Having been a waitress I would have rather had the cash then have the tip go through the credit card anyway.0
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I think we can tell who the cheap tippers are.GOOD FOR APPLEBEE'S!
I haven't tipped under 20% since I was a teenager!0 -
That's what the pastor CLAIMED later.According to the article I read the group as a whole made a cash tip for the waitress, so it's not that she didn't tip.0 -
I think we can tell who the cheap tippers are.GOOD FOR APPLEBEE'S!
Not really. We can tell who values customer privacy. I've worked doing special orders before. I would completely expect to be fired if I posted private information publicly in order to humiliate a customer because I didn't like something they did,. Was the pastor a jerk? Yes, no question about that. However, it doesn't give you the right to break policy and exploit private information like that either. If this was accepted, it opens the gate for servers to do this for any reason. The response was appropriate. She should have known that wasn't okay to do.0 -
From what I read it's what the group said, not just the pastor.0
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I would love to see the link. I'll withdraw my criticism if I'm convinced.From what I read it's what the group said, not just the pastor.0 -
I understand that certain individuals need tips to survive. Waiters, Waitresses, Hairdressers, etc. But requireing a certain amount for the tip defeats the purpose in my book. Tips are for exceptional services. I tip accoudingly. For 10% on up to 20% or more. You give me good service I give you a good tip. I had a Birthday party for my adult daughter a few years back. Because there were more than 8 in our party the tip was automatically added to my bill. The service we received was horrible. We waited over 30 minutes for the waitress to come get our drink orders. The drinks came to us 30 minutes later and without straws! When we received out meals one of my party didn't get a meal. (The only pregnant one!). I beleive the waitress knew her tip was guaranteed and didn't care. I demanded to speak to the manager and relayed our experience to her. The amount of the tip was lowered. I would have preferred to give her no tip at all but I paid.
As for the waitress scanning and posting that online.....she deserves to be fired!0 -
Take a moment to like the waitress page: https://www.facebook.com/HireBackChelsea0
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And she could have been a crappy server. Who knows?0
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I think both the pastor's response, and the waitresses seem a bit extreme... but since I work in insurance...yep having an employee that posts receipts with personal information of restaurant patrons is a liability risk that you can't afford to keep on staff as far as the business is concerned... If she wanted to complain about it... I can understand her frustration about the situation... but posting that pic with their personal information is just a potential lawsuit waiting to happen.0
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No matter how you feel, the customers are mostly voting against Applebee's. The server is out a job that paid $3.50 per hour plus tips (when they don't get stiffed) for an employer who cares nothing for her. Applebee's is losing much more. I can't boycott them though. I haven't been in an Applebee's in years.The response was appropriate. She should have known that wasn't okay to do.0 -
And she could have been a crappy server. Who knows?
^^^^ THIS! Maybe she didn't DESERVE 18%. Maybe she sucked at her JOB!0 -
From what I can tell it was never said if the other 19 people left a tip on the table. From the messages here we also don't know what kind of service the waitress gave. I have been in large groups and been served the wrong food, very slow, attitude etc. Should I be required to pay the tip?
We walk into a restaurant sit down and have to wait to be waited on then we have to tip. We walk into a retail establishment and people wait on us, friendly, nice helpful and it is not a requirement and we don't tip. Something is messed up. I feel the restaurants need to pay their people like every other place of employment has to at least minimum wage. The price of food may go up but then we would not be required to tip. It becomes an option.
The waitress shoul not have posted the receipt putting the place where she works in bad light. The Pastor should not have written what she did because it is not the waitresses fault. But by placing the article on line the waitress lowered herself to the level of the person she was putting down. Two wrongs don't make a right.
The pastor wasnt complaining about her service, just that fact that she didnt want to leave a tip I think she would have mentioned that if it was a problem, after all she didnt have a problem dragging GOD into it!0 -
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I think that's what pushed me over the edge.... after all she didnt have a problem dragging GOD into it!0
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