mens opinions needed....

For a serious and honest answer-

When seeing or meeting a woman for the first time, the first impression is a visual one. I first look at her face, minimal make up, (or no make up) tastefully applied, nice hair and hairstyle (no extremes please, blue, green hair, shaved scalp......no thanks), a nice smile. Then mannerisms, an approachable greeting, able to carry on a conversation without every other word being "like" or "ya know" or "dude". Refrain from using profanity. Height and weight in reasonable proportion. While nice, this is not mandatory. Reasonably and appropriately dressed. Ok to be feminine and sexy, but there is a difference between being tastefully dressed and being trashy.

That's good for a start.

I like a woman who I can have an intellectual conversation with. Science, history, politics. I find that attractive. And a sense of humor

Hi, where do you live sir?

Did you call dibs?

Don't get excited. That's how men talk as part of the mating ritual. ;-) Kidding!

Then just go out and find some guys to bang. Eventually one of those will be cool and like you back.

im celebate so no sex :sad:

At all??!!??!!?

nope :sad: ya that definatly kinda limits it cause beileve me if i wanted to just run around town and f*** everyone in every area code i could lol. thats all guys mainly want from me so im not doin it until someone deserves it or marriage (i know celebate means until marriage but idk what to call either waiting untill i feel 100% right or marriage- just so no one attacks the s*** out of me for that)

Oh ok that I get then. Nothing wrong with waiting for it to be right for you. I think a "only when we're married line" is reallllllly going to scare most guys off. A "let's wait a couple months until it's right" is def easier to swallow and will weed out any jerks I'd guess.

um no never said i would change, im saying i think for the average man im too confident and out spoken. im not going to change that or anything else i say or do or enjoy ect. im trying to figure out what guys like in general to see if its me thats weird for standards or if i just havnt ran into the right person yet.

Sounds like you need to change your fishing ground, you won't catch swordfish fishing up river only Salomon. Try changing where you meet guys, like go to places that interest you and you would be surprised to find guys who share the same interest. Guys will over come shyness very quick when they find you into a topic they are genuinely interested in. Volunteering, sports, baking cakes, whatever it is.

But what about your needs? This idea that a woman's vagina is some sacred token that must only be given to the most worthy of suitor is crazycakes. You deserve to enjoy physical contact with men just as much as they want to enjoy it with you... guys aren't the only ones that enjoy sex... this has very little to do with your overall dating thread and more to do with something that I think is wrong with ALL of the dating world.

But seriously, it's just sex.

Ummm how you doinnnnnn'???

Then just go out and find some guys to bang. Eventually one of those will be cool and like you back.

im celebate so no sex :sad:

Why? And secondly, why are you in search of a man to date if you're not going to have sex? You're an adult, and sex is part of a healthy adult relationship.


If you're not looking for a husband/male sex partner, then just go hang out with large groups of people and sort out men and women that you enjoy the company of and hang out with them.

You seem to be making this way harder on yourself than it needs to.

Ok I got sucked back in.

Why the hell not? If she wants to wait or abstain from sex thats her decision and it should be respected, regardless of her beliefs behind it.

Well, if she's not looking to have sex until marriage, then I think she will probably be better off seeking out friends of both sexes to spend time with and enrich her life. If she spent less time worrying about what kind of man she wants, and what kind of man wants her, etc. etc. blah blah, she will have a nice, relaxing life full of fun and adventure, and eventually the right guy will come along... because, as a confident woman, she is following her life path as an independent person (which makes everyone more attractive.)

ok so what do yall men find most attractive about a woman....i want looks AND chararistics (yes i know i spelled it wrong). just curious cause im single and maybe looking to date but idk what guys in genreal find most attractive about women now a days lol.

A strong, deadlift, squat and bench all with good form. If the form is bad that's a turn off. Lookswise a face is necessary and they have to able to cook bacon just the right level of crispyness.

I very much enjoyed your post

I agree...lol..well just the bacon part...

...im not doin it until someone deserves it or marriage (i know celebate means until marriage but idk what to call either waiting untill i feel 100% right or marriage- just so no one attacks the s*** out of me for that)

Very cool. Cheers.

But what about your needs? This idea that a woman's vagina is some sacred token that must only be given to the most worthy of suitor is crazycakes. You deserve to enjoy physical contact with men just as much as they want to enjoy it with you... guys aren't the only ones that enjoy sex... this has very little to do with your overall dating thread and more to do with something that I think is wrong with ALL of the dating world.

But seriously, it's just sex.

sex is big self respect thing to me. most people now a days dont really get it. everyone throws there gentials around like confetti. i dont lkike that especailly with all the stds and werid **** going around