I've stopped counting calories & weight is still dropping.

"Athletes and people over the age of 60 might benefit from increasing the recommended amount of protein in their diets to support muscle growth and prevent muscle loss, respectively."

No, people over 60 need LESS protein, not more. Protein has to be processed by the liver, and as we grow older that organ needs to be treated with respect and not overworked. People over 60 should - and most do - eat smaller meals. 3 or 4 oz of animal protein per day are more than enough. In fact, although I am not a vegetarian, I only eat meat once or twice a week, fish maybe once a week. Vegetables and grains contain enough protein for an average day for the over 60s.

True, you don't need to count calories. Simply start eating half of your usual quantity and you will lose weight. It seems, though, that many people enjoy counting and I am one of those.

"Athletes and people over the age of 60 might benefit from increasing the recommended amount of protein in their diets to support muscle growth and prevent muscle loss, respectively."

No, people over 60 need LESS protein, not more. Protein has to be processed by the liver, and as we grow older that organ needs to be treated with respect and not overworked. People over 60 should - and most do - eat smaller meals. 3 or 4 oz of animal protein per day are more than enough. In fact, although I am not a vegetarian, I only eat meat once or twice a week, fish maybe once a week. Vegetables and grains contain enough protein for an average day for the over 60s.

This would indicate otherwise re amount of protein in a single sitting v lots of meals - basically, as we age, we require more protein to create an anabolic response.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/69/6/1202.full.pdf

This would indicate otherwise re amount of protein in a single sitting v lots of meals

according to the PDF yes

basically, as we age, we require more protein to create an anabolic response.

not entirely sure on how you got this from the PDF please elaborate



diets were 10% protein and 14% protein hardly consider them high in protein probably closer to average, not to mention there results were barely even noticeable and with 15 people could of just been anything.

on the high protein diet of the evenly spread out protein meals the women lost LBM vs the low protein diet on the evenly spread out protein meals.

WUT???

The PDF seemed to be pretty bad, srsly

I am not wasting my time in yet another debate with you...I am sorry you cannot understand the point I am making. Layne Norton touches on it here if you care to understand it further:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjmV8BlsJTQ

This would indicate otherwise re amount of protein in a single sitting v lots of meals

according to the PDF yes

basically, as we age, we require more protein to create an anabolic response.

not entirely sure on how you got this from the PDF please elaborate



diets were 10% protein and 14% protein hardly consider them high in protein probably closer to average, not to mention there results were barely even noticeable and with 15 people could of just been anything.

on the high protein diet of the evenly spread out protein meals the women lost LBM vs the low protein diet on the evenly spread out protein meals.

WUT???

The PDF seemed to be pretty bad, srsly

I am not wasting my time in yet another debate with you...I am sorry you cannot understand the point I am making. Layne Norton touches on it here if you care to understand it further:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjmV8BlsJTQ

LOL

Iam being serious!

That's lovely for you. Have a delightful day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjmV8BlsJTQ

watching now ill let you know what i think

So, you lol'd before you watched it?

Night poppet! As I said, I am not wasting more time with you.

I am not wasting my time in yet another debate with you...

LOL

So, you lol'd before you watched it?

Night poppet! As I said, I am not wasting more time with you.

LOL'd at your response to me not the video

I am not wasting my time in yet another debate with you...

anyways i liked the video was awesome though it had nothing to do with elderly people so iam not 100% sure why you referred me to it.

from video

anabolic response maxed out at 30-40grams of protein for most people

you might need a slight elevation on which you need when you get older you

older people - less sensitive to amino acids takes more to get an anabolic response

original question

basically, as we age, we require more protein to create an anabolic response.

not entirely sure on how you got this from the PDF please elaborate

answered



PDF still seemed pretty bad though

Blah Blah Blah. Get off your soap box and shut your trap.

The only reason why I stopped counting calories, is because after a year of counting them and eating pretty much the same things, I know what is what.

I also don't eat clean... ever and I do just fine. Rule for me is 80/20... 80% healthy and 20% junk.

While reading this wall of text I read "Lastly "and got my hopes up, thinking that the wall of text was over.

Well, I was lied to. You went on and on and on. How can I respect your words when You don't finish talking soon after saying "lastly"?

Lastly, if counting calories don't work for you. Thats fine. Many people in the past, present and future have lost weight without counting calories. MFP's counting calories is just another way of doing it and I (along with many others like this method.

I bid you good luck sir. Take care

Almost spewed coffee. You should warn me before you're going to be funny.

I do agree with OP on one thing for sure, though. Since I stopped thinking of processed foods like snack cakes as 'food' (as in something I'll eat), life has been much better and my weight loss much more consistent. But I can and have gained weight or not lost while avoiding those un-foods entirely, which is why I still count calories.

And getting enough protein isn't my worry, either. I need to make sure to get enough fat, though, or I'll end up binging on steak and onions and butter.

Great post!!! This totally changed my outlook on weightloss, thanks!!