I've stopped counting calories & weight is still dropping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjmV8BlsJTQ

watching now ill let you know what i think

Video might be a better media for you. Refs 16-20 in that "bad" pdf support her point directly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjmV8BlsJTQ

watching now ill let you know what i think

Video might be a better media for you. Refs 16-20 in that "bad" pdf support her point directly.

EDIT
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actually if you are trying to lose weight, your body needs MORE protein


ummm i think you need to research a little better ..


and stop counting calories,, are you serious ?

i stopped counting calories once, and you know what happen I GAIN ALL MY WEIGHT BACK AND MORE.. so no thank you !!!!

Look forward to seeing you back here when the weight eventually comes back on... Myfitnesspal is not just a calorie counter, it's a way of keeping your overall health in mind

Good day, sir. I SAID GOOD DAY.

I'm glad you've found something that works for you - and I wish you continued success.

I, however, have tracked and will continue to track calories. That's sustainable for me (10+ years and counting <calories> - haha!), reliable, and is something I have found invaluable. It's not just about portion control for me and I DO believe there is great use in counting and measuring beyond an acute weight loss stage and into maintenance. There's quite a bit in your post that I disagree with... and quite a bit more I think is outright misinformation. One **thin** thread I CAN support is that all calories are not created equal. How you FEEL will differ depending on the fuel you choose. However, you WILL lose weight if you eat a calorie deficit, even if it's all chocolate. I won't bore people to tears with the other aspects of your post that I think are (hmm, how to put this as respectfully as possible)... mythological.

With your post and with all the other opinions out there... just a reminder to readers... do what works for YOU, leave others to their own devices, and take all "indisputable" advice with a grain of salt. (and track the sodium in that grain, too!)

Again, really glad you have something that works for you. I appreciate the time you took to post your views. I'm sure some folks will find it valuable. Continued success to you.

Awesome progress!!

So, I read the post and some of the comments.

I am not certain about any of the science mentioned in the post. The protein info is certainly interesting and I will be doing some investigating on my own. The info I have been given to date on protein is contrary to the post. So, I need to do some more research.

As for some of the negative comments. To each his own. I have nothing negative to say. In fact, much of this makes sense to me. As I worked through my weight loss it became apparent quickly that I was making a transformation in life style. So, on this basis, as my new life style took hold and became my new normal. The real need to track daily calorie intake became less important to my goal of being healthy. I still count calories and I still log my exercise calories. Mostly because it is a habit and it gives me some perspective on my day to day consumption. In addition, I have made friends through this web site who are at different places in their journey. I think that if they see me logging and participating, it might provide some little bit of motivation to keep on track with their work towards better health.

There is a lot in this message that is correct, but also quite a bit that is incorrect. Your post perpetuates many myths. As you said, you are losing without calorie counting because you have learned what to eat and trained yourself to eat well below your BMR. There are many factors that you are failing to consider and logging food isn't just about tracking calories.

I'm sorry, but I prefer to take my diet and fitness advice from individuals who have practiced their methods for more than a month.

Have a nice day! :flowerforyou:

That's a lot of numbers to track for someone who doesn't think counting calories is necessary. And why weigh and measure your food if you're not counting?

I feel like my pic describes the OP quite well!

Regarding protein intake, I follow the RDA of Health Canada which is 0.8g/kg as a minimum. There was a study I read here which showed that older subjects had diminished lean body mass wastage with increased protein intake above the RDA.
I'm looking for it...
It may be a trade off for liver and kidney function but interesting none the less.

This one?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11382798

That be it, thanks. Those who said the elderly should decrease protein intake should have a read. It's only one study mind.

Eating less and eating clean.....yes I get that...I know what's good and what's too much but knowing is not doing. Slimming World is a diet club that labels processed foods..."syns"...there is no weighing just eating "clean' and avoiding bread till you get the "full signal" from your stomach.

I know all this yet I'm still overweight because for people with a tendency to overindulge which describes a fair number of people here the first thing is to set limits...either quality of food (Dukan, Atkins, Slimming World) or quantity (calories, weight watchers).

Basically some sort of limit will suffice to start an initial weight loss. As far as long term changes the jury is still out there as the majority of dieters will gain the weight back.....otherwise dieting would be a one off and the diet clubs wouldn't be making such a profit.

Well done on making the changes that have worked for you. I am new to calorie counting but not new to food and diets...I'm an old hand who actually maintained weight loss for about 8 yrs then "lost it". I love my biscuits...and cake....so I'm not letting go of those in a way that makes me ruminate on them. Yet I have a strong desire to lose weight. So I will use some sort of limit and for now it's counting calories and making sure I am making exercise a habit.

P.S as far as protein goes I did the Dukan diet and ate mega quantities of protein...lost tons of weight then it stalled....even with all that protein...My health suffered for it...gall stones and kidney stones so been there and done that and got the t-shirt that reads "Still Fat"

While I do disagree with a few of your points, I see what you're trying to say and I definitely do agree that eating more nutritious and less processed foods will always be the better way. I also can't imagine myself counting calories forever, but I think it's a useful tool for people who may not yet have a sense of portions or really what exactly they are eating. Thanks for sharing

Quote :Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

Soo, you're in the majority of Western culture that doesn't track what they eat and ends up...

.... If you think you need motivation now, just wait until you hit maintenance. I read somewhere that it takes 6 years for your body to accept a new weight, so for six years, if you listen to your body, you can expect to gain. This is when calorie counting can become truly invaluable.

I wish you the best of luck in your weight loss AND maintenance.

Xxx

^^^ this!! Maintenance is where I've failed before... not this time!!