calories and weight loss
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it seems you are all being very defensive about the word calories because you don't want to know the truth
go on and eat all the crap you want and get sick
that what you want to hear ?
then fine , do what you want, but don't complain that you cant lose any weight after eating all your high sugar foods and sweating it out at the gym
I am being very realistic on this forum but some people don't like the truth, the truth hurts guys
Dude...there are more than a few people who have responded in this thread that you happen to be full of **** and have your science all back asswords that are actually really fit and healthy individuals and many on MFP have benefited from their knowledge. These particular individuals aren't in denial about anything...many have already lost their weight...many use this tool to achieve fitness goals, etc and have achieved very high levels of fitness.
You're just some guy who just joined up and is going off on how calories are a conspiracy or something. I don't think you'd get any arguments in RE to the need for people to eat a more nutritious diet most of the time...more veg...more fruit...lean protein, etc. I think most nominally educated individuals can conclude that proper nutrition is more than just calories...but as a unit of energy, a calorie is a friggin' calorie. Again, proper nutrition and health are completely different matters.0 -
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with proper water consumption also, 3-4 liters a day
enough said,
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I just really need this post to show up for my friends to see it.0
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I lost 65lb in five months or so, kept muscle generally (hard to tell as I was doing 'real work' rather than structured lifting at the time), managed to run and cycle the furthest I ever have in my life (in the same day for both distance PRs too!) and generally be about the healthiest I have ever been.
How did I do it?
By eating ready meals and adding processed meat slices.
Calories in vs Calories out + moving my body.
By rights, apparently I should have put on not lost 65lb!
Oh - on that day mentioned with the running and cycling - I ate fast food, crisps, chocolate, sweet drinks then a high fat and high sugar meal. By rights, it seems the world likely should have ceased to exist with such a contradiction happening.
I still weighed less the next day.
Calories in vs Calories out + moving my body.1 -
here are the list of foods that you should consume as a healthy human being
lentils, beans, sweet potatoes, potatoes, almonds, nuts, salads, fruits,
you get protein in lentils, nuts, fruits,
eat clean fuel for your body , and weight loss is easy,
with proper water consumption also, 3-4 liters a day
enough said,
So wait .. if I eat a fruit salad, am I getting double benefit?0 -
Hi,
I would like to start this discussion on the topic of the word CALORIES and how it has become one of the most discussed terms of gauging our weight , we use the term calories to discuss our energy needs for our day, but why should we believe this word. i would like to know your thoughts below
I dont understand the question. Do you think there is another term that is more important in terms of weight gain/loss?
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Hi,
I would like to start this discussion on the topic of the word CALORIES and how it has become one of the most discussed terms of gauging our weight , we use the term calories to discuss our energy needs for our day, but why should we believe this word. i would like to know your thoughts below
I dont understand the question. Do you think there is another term that is more important in terms of weight gain/loss?
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Been in gifs for 2 years and have studied custom gif creation
Yes. Bananas.0 -
Hi,
I would like to start this discussion on the topic of the word CALORIES and how it has become one of the most discussed terms of gauging our weight , we use the term calories to discuss our energy needs for our day, but why should we believe this word. i would like to know your thoughts below
I dont understand the question. Do you think there is another term that is more important in terms of weight gain/loss?
M.F.P. Hottest Person/M.F.P. Most awesome person
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Been in gifs for 2 years and have studied custom gif creation
Yes. Bananas.
Or twinkies with nuts.0 -
Hi,
I would like to start this discussion on the topic of the word CALORIES and how it has become one of the most discussed terms of gauging our weight , we use the term calories to discuss our energy needs for our day, but why should we believe this word. i would like to know your thoughts below
I dont understand the question. Do you think there is another term that is more important in terms of weight gain/loss?
M.F.P. Hottest Person/M.F.P. Most awesome person
Ice cream afficionado
"Winning" Certified Instructor
Been in gifs for 2 years and have studied custom gif creation
Yes. Bananas.
Or twinkies with nuts.
Oh yes, That's definitely it. Colon scraping and all, I forgot.0 -
My opinion, is it's really dependant on what it is you are getting your calories from. You know someone who eats 2000 calories a day of all banana's, but our bodies know how to break down the nutrients in a banana. If you eat the same 2000 calories from Kraft dinner, processed meats and so on, you are going to gain weight because the body doesn't know how to process that so it turns to fat.
ie. a full avocado has over 300 calories and 29 grams of fat. Two hot dog has 180 calories and 12 grams of fat. (btw these were just the 2 things that came to mind, no rhyme or reason for choosing them). You are still better off eating the avocado because it's all natural and your body knows what to do with it where the hotdog will just turn to and be stored as fat.
So although a calorie is a calorie and keeping track of them is important its as equally important to know where those calories are coming from.0 -
My opinion, is it's really dependant on what it is you are getting your calories from. You know someone who eats 2000 calories a day of all banana's, but our bodies know how to break down the nutrients in a banana. If you eat the same 2000 calories from Kraft dinner, processed meats and so on, you are going to gain weight because the body doesn't know how to process that so it turns to fat.
Your body can only turn things to fat that it knows how to process. Your body doesn't know how to process the hull of a kernel of corn. Think about it. Argument invalid.0 -
Lmao at stay away from sugar.. I had a chocolate chip cookie and half of a foot long spicy Italian on Italian herb bread for breakfast and the other half for lunch... what pisses me off is their was a man that came in behind me he was all bult and he ordered the same thing... ahole why is my snadwhich and cookie a treat and his just a freaking snack/meal..whatever.. oh yeah..calories smalories, I dont really track calories anymore i just estimate my limit and try and stay under that amount and exercise daily..... I've been doing that kinda for years crazy thing i was just looking at my pics in my camera and my sd card has pics from 6+ years ago when I first started at 297 and pics along that journey when I was only 5-10 pounds heavier than I am now.. and i look like a completley different person.. i look twice the size at almost the same exact weight...freaking weird...0
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My opinion, is it's really dependant on what it is you are getting your calories from. You know someone who eats 2000 calories a day of all banana's, but our bodies know how to break down the nutrients in a banana. If you eat the same 2000 calories from Kraft dinner, processed meats and so on, you are going to gain weight because the body doesn't know how to process that so it turns to fat.
Your body can only turn things to fat that it knows how to process. Your body doesn't know how to process the hull of a kernel of corn. Think about it. Argument invalid.
I think we are kinda saying the same thing just using different words. Your body knows how to process nutrients and proteins...etc. Its the processed stuff it doesn't know how to process and thats what turns into fat.0 -
My opinion, is it's really dependant on what it is you are getting your calories from. You know someone who eats 2000 calories a day of all banana's, but our bodies know how to break down the nutrients in a banana. If you eat the same 2000 calories from Kraft dinner, processed meats and so on, you are going to gain weight because the body doesn't know how to process that so it turns to fat.
Your body can only turn things to fat that it knows how to process. Your body doesn't know how to process the hull of a kernel of corn. Think about it. Argument invalid.
I think we are kinda saying the same thing just using different words. Your body knows how to process nutrients and proteins...etc. Its the processed stuff it doesn't know how to process and thats what turns into fat.
No. We don;t agree at all. If it's not processed, it's passed out intact. It will never be fat because it wasn't processed. Your body turns surplus into fat, not some magic list "less natural" foods.0 -
My opinion, is it's really dependant on what it is you are getting your calories from. You know someone who eats 2000 calories a day of all banana's, but our bodies know how to break down the nutrients in a banana. If you eat the same 2000 calories from Kraft dinner, processed meats and so on, you are going to gain weight because the body doesn't know how to process that so it turns to fat.
Your body can only turn things to fat that it knows how to process. Your body doesn't know how to process the hull of a kernel of corn. Think about it. Argument invalid.
I think we are kinda saying the same thing just using different words. Your body knows how to process nutrients and proteins...etc. Its the processed stuff it doesn't know how to process and thats what turns into fat.
No. We don;t agree at all. If it's not processed, it's passed out intact. It will never be fat because it wasn't processed. Your body turns surplus into fat, not some magic list "less natural" foods.
Then we can agree to disagree? I am not sure what you mean it's "passed out intact" or I think I might know but not 100% sure. Either way, do what works for you because what works for one person isn't necessarily the right way to go for another. If it feels good do it.
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No.. If you eat the same 2000 calories from Kraft dinner, processed meats and so on, you are going to gain weight because the body doesn't know how to process that so it turns to fat.
I did exactly that sort of thing and lost weight.
Calories in vs calories out.0 -
Hi,
I would like to start this discussion on the topic of the word CALORIES and how it has become one of the most discussed terms of gauging our weight , we use the term calories to discuss our energy needs for our day, but why should we believe this word. i would like to know your thoughts below
I dont understand the question. Do you think there is another term that is more important in terms of weight gain/loss?
M.F.P. Hottest Person/M.F.P. Most awesome person
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Holy crap I almost spit my drink out when I saw your post "signature" lol. That is incredible!0 -
My opinion, is it's really dependant on what it is you are getting your calories from. You know someone who eats 2000 calories a day of all banana's, but our bodies know how to break down the nutrients in a banana. If you eat the same 2000 calories from Kraft dinner, processed meats and so on, you are going to gain weight because the body doesn't know how to process that so it turns to fat.
If your body cannot process something, then how can it turn into anything? Turning something into something else IS processing it.
Oh, and your body can process it - into energy.0 -
Why are there 6 pages of people responding to a troll?1
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I think everyone here will agree that eating refined sugar is not as ideal as eating the same amount of CALORIES from fruit. You will feel full longer, you get nutrients, etc.
Where you lost everyone is that you keep saying that you can lose weight by eating more calories as long as the food is "healthy" versus eating half that many CALORIES from "unhealthy" sources. That simply isn't true.
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ok, lets be more clear about this
if you where on a low calorie diet of say 1200 calories to lose weight
if you eat 1200 calories of junk food vs 1200 calories of good healthy foods
what results would you expect from these 2 diets ?
same result in weight loss ?
i don't agree at all
the 1200 calorie diet on the junk food would make you more hungry and it would eventually lead you to eat more than this
but the 1200 calorie diet on the healthy food would leave you satisfied
this is why they say diets dont work, because you are making the wrong decisions in what you place in your mouth, thats why they dont work, your eating the addictive foods that you just cant say no to , have to break the cycle
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You are confusing two different things.
In the short term - if you eat 1200 calories of junk food, vs 1200 calories of healthy food you will lose the same amount of weight.
In the long term, the junk food diet MAY make you revert back to old eating habits or overeating which could lead to weight loss - but that is all hypothetical.0 -
Wait, so we are all supposed to be vegetarians then too, right?If you're getting a good amount of ok protein in your 'junk food', why would you loose LBM eating junk food, but not eating non-junk food?
I thought it was fairly well considered that protein was the important factor there.
That was my assumption - essential nutrients = protein. Besides, he's not even mentioned protein in this thread I don't think. It has all been about sugar. White sugar to be exact. Brown sugar seems to be in the clear!
here are the list of foods that you should consume as a healthy human being
lentils, beans, sweet potatoes, potatoes, almonds, nuts, salads, fruits,
you get protein in lentils, nuts, fruits,
eat clean fuel for your body , and weight loss is easy,
with proper water consumption also, 3-4 liters a day
enough said,0 -
All I know is I am burning a lot of calories just trying to understand what this thread is even about.0
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Wait, so we are all supposed to be vegetarians then too, right?If you're getting a good amount of ok protein in your 'junk food', why would you loose LBM eating junk food, but not eating non-junk food?
I thought it was fairly well considered that protein was the important factor there.
That was my assumption - essential nutrients = protein. Besides, he's not even mentioned protein in this thread I don't think. It has all been about sugar. White sugar to be exact. Brown sugar seems to be in the clear!
here are the list of foods that you should consume as a healthy human being
lentils, beans, sweet potatoes, potatoes, almonds, nuts, salads, fruits,
you get protein in lentils, nuts, fruits,
eat clean fuel for your body , and weight loss is easy,
with proper water consumption also, 3-4 liters a day
enough said,
Actually, it looks like we are all supposed to be vegans.0 -
really some people need to go and resaerch topics before they speak, on the topic of sugar spiking insulin levels a carb is a carb the body will use it the same so complex carbs to simple carbs it doesnt care, if its ate with the right amount of protien and fat in a meal the G.I which is ment to raise insulin wont matter because the protien and fat counter act it.Plus the calories in and calories out is also correct you can eat your calories in fast food or healthy food but if you are in a calorie deficit you will loose weight, it is just if its taken in by fast food you wont be able to eat as much due to fat being higher in calories (9 per gram) than protien or carbs (4 per gram) so you will feel hungry even tho the body has met its caloric needs thats why people choose to clean the diet up because they can eat more for the same amount of calories0
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And of course - if you are eating food you enjoy versus food you don't enjoy, many people may find they prefer to eat a small amount of food they enjoy than a large amount of food they don't enjoy.In the long term, the junk food diet MAY make you revert back to old eating habits or overeating which could lead to weight loss - but that is all hypothetical.0 -
I think all of you got trolled hard. lol0
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Such a confusing thread to attempt to read through. Gave up.
Let me recap:
We are all brainwashed because no one agreed with him?
IS that a fair summary?
What a nutcase... Can I have more sugar please?0 -
Such a confusing thread to attempt to read through. Gave up.
Let me recap:
We are all brainwashed because no one agreed with him?
IS that a fair summary?
What a nutcase... Can I have more sugar please?
that's it , you said it,
I am a nutcase for trying to get you all to eat healthy :noway:
it seems that you all just want to make this into some kind of joke ?
there are people who try very hard to lose wight and can not achieve this, they are consuming far too much calories in forms of processed sugars, such as breads, bagels, Vienna breads, and cereals, fruit juice, this list goes on and on, yogurts ......
and making a simple change in the type of calories you consume will make a difference for sure
different types of calories affect your body's weight loss efforts.
so the word calorie, really has to be looked at , because the food that we eat is not going to affect the body the same way therefore can we call it a calorie ?
if you eat for energy , but you eat food that's processed sugar, do you think you will be in a net + energy, or a net - energy ?
you will be in a + energy for a short time, then you will start to get hungry due to the sharp rise in insulin, this will make you feel shaky especially if you are heading towards insulin resistance, because the insulin is taking all the sugar out of your blood and leaving you with no energy left , why cant you all see this ?
on the other hand if you eat food that your body can recognize such as fruits, vegetables, nuts, legumes then you are in a net + energy state and will not feel shaky due to insulin levels remaining steady
as i have sated before, do you see any obese type 1 diabetics ? because i have never seen any in my life, they can not produce insulin therefore they have to inject it into themselves
what I have shared with you is the truth about your body, the only way we can learn to respect our body is to give it what it was intended to consume in the first place and to stop eating all the man made dead foods that are making us sick and tired,
my conclusion on all of this topic is that if people are seeing results in there weight loss they will continue doing what they want and ridicule others, but what they fail to realize is that there is a serious problem when it comes to in insulin resistance,
also, you can have candida, this is a yeast infection, if you have this then you are probably feeding the candida all the sugar that you consume, the candida will take all the sugar for itself and leave you in a deficit,
there is more than meets the eye with processed food consumption0 -
there are people who try very hard to lose wight and can not achieve this, they are consuming far too much calories
there you go...0 -
I think all of you got trolled hard. lol
In Internet slang, a troll (pron.: /ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is someone who posts inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[3] The noun troll may also refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted."
I am not a troll at all
the topic is on the word calories and weight loss
therefore this is all we are discussing, how certain calories affect our weight whilst other calories will not
FACT0
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