Morbidly Obese mother files complaint
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An adult panda usually weighs about 350lbs; female polar bears (on the low side) weigh 350lbs, a baby cow (depending on breed) can weigh 350lbs by the end of their first year....just ot put some things into perspective.
That is good perspective...
So am I the only one shaking my head at this one? Human females being compared to bears, and cows...Really? These animals were created to be this large...human females were not created to be that size. (This is just a statement, not a discrimination remark).
I believe the doctor did what was in the best interest of the mother/child and the woman should be grateful for that. It seems anymore that people are in too big a hurry to blame, or point fingers at someone else without looking at there own matters first. This is just a crying shame. Is she not considering the stress she is putting her baby thru while she does all of this?0 -
My doctor was concerned about my 40 pound weight gain that pushed me over 200 pounds. It is what it is. I think the doctor was trying to show kindness and not call out the woman's weight. The truth is you MAY weigh over 300 pounds and REALLY believe that you are healthy, but there are many things that are not accessible to your larger frame and it may be okay today, but what will it be in 10 years? I encourage us to think beyond today, we have to decide to be healthy for our future, for our children. It was embarrassing to me the day the doctor asked me what I had been eating to gain 7 pounds in a week and a half, but you know what, a carton of Breyer's ice cream daily was not the best choice. That is the truth. I hope this is a catalyst for a healthy change in this woman's life and not just an opportunity for justifying her poor eating habits and the thought of quick bucks.0
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This is COMPLETELY an issue of fat acceptance.
How? I'm just not seeing that. Are you suggesting that doctors should just accept that their patients are overweight and not say anything to them abou it? Doctors should risk being sued by taking on high risk patients just to avoid being called "fat shamers"? Another poster said that her doctor "fat shamed" her when she'd go in for her visits. I just don't get that. No doctor should overlook a patient's weight if it is unhealthy.
I will say that I have been "fat shamed" by two doctors. One told me that I was going to die by age thirty...Yep JERK!! and a liar!!..LOL
The other I went to for a surgery but I needed to lose weight for the surgery. I was working hard losing 1-5 pounds a week..and he would tell me that I wasn't losing it fast enough..that I wasn't working hard enough..I said excuse me do you see me busting my butt everyday. Do you know half of what I'm doing to lose the weight..I told him everything and he said its just not fast enough. How do you tell the doctor to shove it up his@ss politely?..I finally left him. And I will never recommend him to another person!!!
This is sadly not unusual in the way fat patients are treated. GOOD for you for leaving that doctor and hopefully finding a doctor that will provide unprejudiced care.0 -
I think that she has a right to be pissed off that her doctor lied to her or was uninformed as to hospital policies, but if she was already ok with going to Indy based on the premise of better healthcare, what are her losses/damages?
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I'm an attorney, but I'm not licensed to practice in Indiana. Additionally, I don't do medical malpractice or do a whole lot of civil litigation (because I am rather conservative about the cases I do take in that realm), but here goes.
Here's what I don't understand about her case (I would love to get my hands on the complaint). The doctor said that the reason she couldn't deliver at the local hospital was because it was hospital policy not to take patients over 350 lbs. That was untrue, so either (1) the doctor actually thought that was the case, in which case it was an innocent mistake, or (2) she knew it wasn't the case but didn't want to say the real reason why the patient should deliver in Indianapolis, which isn't cool - but not necessarily reason to sue.
The patient admits in the article that she'd have been ok with delivering in Indy if her doctor had simply said outright that it would be better for her and the baby.
It's only because the doctor lied about it (or didn't know the truth) that she's pissed off and apparently is why she is suing.
I think that she has a right to be pissed off that her doctor lied to her or was uninformed as to hospital policies, but if she was already ok with going to Indy based on the premise of better healthcare, what are her losses/damages?
Discrimination is a serious issue even if she's okay with going to the other hospital.0 -
At my highest weight, 357, I was healthy. Granted, I was too heavy, but my numbers were just fine. My blood pressure, heart rate, cholesterol, blood sugar, thyroid, triglycerides, etc were all within normal levels. No diabetes. No high blood pressure. None of the issues many obese people have. Doctors were usually pretty shocked.
My point is, you can't assume she isn't healthy just because of her weight. If she's speaking in terms of bloodwork alone, she may be right. On paper, I was perfectly healthy (if you ignored my BMI). Still am. I've lost 54 pounds, and I'm sure my numbers are about the same or better. Am I a healthy weight? Heck no. Am I healthy, generally? Yes.
I don't think it's right that he lied to her. He should have explained her options. He took the chicken way out of it, and that's wrong.
I have to call BS on this. I have never had problems with my BP, I have never had problems with my cholesterol, diabetes or anything like that either. But just because those vital stats are ok does not mean you are healthy. At 260 pounds, all my stats were good too, but it made me sick to my stomach to walk for 20 minutes. It took me losing 50lbs to realize how unhealthy I actually was and how much potential I was lacking physically. Denial is a horrible thing.
I have to call BS on you, dear. I currently weigh close to 300lbs. I am also pregnant. My blood pressure was taken yesterday and was 101/70. All of my stats are awesome. I can RUN up and down stairs no problem. I can EASILY walk more than 20 minutes. With no pain. And I do. All of the time. In the summer I walk around the small lake near our house 1-2 times per week and that is a 4 mile walk and I do it in a little over an hour. I have a close friend who just had a baby last year and she in in the healthy weight range. She had super high blood pressure and had to be put on bed rest for a month and induced three weeks early. Health is relative. It depends much more on genetics, how much you move your body, and what you put into it... than what you weigh. I am not saying that I am "healthy" because I know that carrying around the extra weight puts a strain on my body. Which is why I am here and working on it. But dont sit in your smug little corner and pick at those around you. I dont know why you even posted this? Does it make you feel superior? It shouldn't.
I'm not picking on anyone, anyone who knows me would testify to that. Neither did I say that people at a healthy weight do not have medical problems. :huh: I do not agree with bodyshaming I just posted an article that is relevant to many people here and something I thought many people would be interested in. Then stated my opinion on the issue.
You just stated yourself that carrying the extra weight puts a strain on your body....What do you think it does to a fetus that a body is supporting? it is the same reason I am here too. According to my BP, cholesterol and other factors, I have no problems but I am by no means healthy. I just admit and accept it and try to do something to change it.
Are you sure you aren't picking on anyone? I mean, you even admitted that you have a problem with people pushing "fat acceptance." Because all people who are fat should feel more self-loathing than accepting of their weight? Is that really healthier? I readily admit AND accept my own fatness. I love my body. I want to be healthy. I accept the fact that in order to improve my health, I have to change my body composition and get rid of the chub. I also accept that it is REALLY effing hard to do. But I am still here. I think threads of this nature come way too close to body-shaming, even if it wasn't your intention. I think that shaming people who are fat is deplorable. Shaming fat people is what leads to unhealthy practices like drastic calorie deficits, and bariatric surgery...whatever it takes to make themselves appear to be more healthy...even though they are not. I just don't see what purpose it serves. Other than to make those doing the shaming somehow feel better about themselves?0 -
At my highest weight, 357, I was healthy. Granted, I was too heavy, but my numbers were just fine. My blood pressure, heart rate, cholesterol, blood sugar, thyroid, triglycerides, etc were all within normal levels. No diabetes. No high blood pressure. None of the issues many obese people have. Doctors were usually pretty shocked.
My point is, you can't assume she isn't healthy just because of her weight. If she's speaking in terms of bloodwork alone, she may be right. On paper, I was perfectly healthy (if you ignored my BMI). Still am. I've lost 54 pounds, and I'm sure my numbers are about the same or better. Am I a healthy weight? Heck no. Am I healthy, generally? Yes.
I don't think it's right that he lied to her. He should have explained her options. He took the chicken way out of it, and that's wrong.
I have to call BS on this. I have never had problems with my BP, I have never had problems with my cholesterol, diabetes or anything like that either. But just because those vital stats are ok does not mean you are healthy. At 260 pounds, all my stats were good too, but it made me sick to my stomach to walk for 20 minutes. It took me losing 50lbs to realize how unhealthy I actually was and how much potential I was lacking physically. Denial is a horrible thing.
I have to call BS on you, dear. I currently weigh close to 300lbs. I am also pregnant. My blood pressure was taken yesterday and was 101/70. All of my stats are awesome. I can RUN up and down stairs no problem. I can EASILY walk more than 20 minutes. With no pain. And I do. All of the time. In the summer I walk around the small lake near our house 1-2 times per week and that is a 4 mile walk and I do it in a little over an hour. I have a close friend who just had a baby last year and she in in the healthy weight range. She had super high blood pressure and had to be put on bed rest for a month and induced three weeks early. Health is relative. It depends much more on genetics, how much you move your body, and what you put into it... than what you weigh. I am not saying that I am "healthy" because I know that carrying around the extra weight puts a strain on my body. Which is why I am here and working on it. But dont sit in your smug little corner and pick at those around you. I dont know why you even posted this? Does it make you feel superior? It shouldn't.
I'm not picking on anyone, anyone who knows me would testify to that. Neither did I say that people at a healthy weight do not have medical problems. :huh: I do not agree with bodyshaming I just posted an article that is relevant to many people here and something I thought many people would be interested in. Then stated my opinion on the issue.
You just stated yourself that carrying the extra weight puts a strain on your body....What do you think it does to a fetus that a body is supporting? it is the same reason I am here too. According to my BP, cholesterol and other factors, I have no problems but I am by no means healthy. I just admit and accept it and try to do something to change it.
The OP is a friend and I agree she isn't picking on this person, but for the fact that the lady is trying to sue because she was lied to? Come on, she is going to try and sue because of her feeling like the Dr. was saying she was too fat. She was embarrassed because her weight is what caused this situation to arise, so now it is discrimination all the sudden, instead of her realizing the Dr. was most likely looking out for the well being of her child. How many dr.'s tell women that are trying to conceive to lose weight, even ones that don't have PCOS or fertility problems? Is that saying every doctor is saying all these women are fat cows? No, they tell women this because when you are morbidly obese you are at higher risk and for a lot of women weight does make it more difficult to conceive. Not all women are fertile myrtles. Just like a women in their 40's is considered higher risk, doesn't make it age discrimination.
Not saying overweight people can't have healthy babies, but obviously more often there are complications or they wouldn't be considered high risk. It is like saying well I smoked or drank or did drugs all through my pregnancy and my baby was fine. Well you got lucky. Just because you did that does not mean it is safe. I would hope that most pregnant women are more concerned about their babies health than their own wants.
At my heaviest I was at 305, and I also didn't have any issues with my blood work, did I think I was healthy? Hell no! I may have had good blood work but I ate like crap, sat my *kitten* on the couch the majority of the time, got winded walking up a flight of stairs, would get tired walking around the block, ate no veggies to provide my body with nutrients, etc. etc. etc. Blood work is not the only determining factor when it comes to health, especially when some things occur after YEARS of abuse to our bodies, they are very resilient and can adapt to our horrible habits but eventually if kept up, your body will fight back and disease can come. You need to look at the whole package, not just that your BP is normal. A healthy lifestyle is the foods you eat, the conditioning of your body, and generally the state at which you take care of yourself. If you continue to abuse your body, blood work does not make you healthy.
And I am not directing my "you's" in my post to anyone here, just speaking in general.
I personally think this woman is blowing things out of proportion. I agree with another poster that said that maybe the Dr. was trying to blame it on something other than her weight as to not embarrass her. People are so sensitive now a days and are so quick to sue over the stupidest things. You got your feelings hurt because your weight became the issue putting you in the high risk category where a different hospital is better equipped to take care of you, get over it. If you choose to do nothing to live a healthier life then you can't blame that on anyone but yourself, regardless if you are morbidly obese or just overweight. Most people that have lost weight understand how much better you actually do feel and can look back and say, I did make excuses and I made acceptances for being where they used to be.
Great discussion Mandy
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Are you sure you aren't picking on anyone? I mean, you even admitted that you have a problem with people pushing "fat acceptance." Because all people who are fat should feel more self-loathing than accepting of their weight? Is that really healthier? I readily admit AND accept my own fatness. I love my body. I want to be healthy. I accept the fact that in order to improve my health, I have to change my body composition and get rid of the chub. I also accept that it is REALLY effing hard to do. But I am still here. I think threads of this nature come way too close to body-shaming, even if it wasn't your intention. I think that shaming people who are fat is deplorable. Shaming fat people is what leads to unhealthy practices like drastic calorie deficits, and bariatric surgery...whatever it takes to make themselves appear to be more healthy...even though they are not. I just don't see what purpose it serves. Other than to make those doing the shaming somehow feel better about themselves?
Except you can totally keep the chub if that's what you want, and still improve your health. HAES is pretty awesome. Exercise and a healthy diet can solve most of these "obesity" problems, even if you're not eating at a calorie deficit.0 -
She also stated that she delivered 4 years ago when she was heavier and that her sister delivered at over 350 pounds as well.
My first thought is how can these women be so fertile being150-200lbs overweight? Also that they are pushing the fat acceptance and claiming discriminiation. They don't act embarrassed but more proud of their weigtht .
I am still obese and I have no plan to get pregnant until I am healthier and think it's sad the this lady is placing the blame of HER problems on the doctors. I am sure it will end in a lawsuit and the doctor having to settle with her. I don't know why he lied but if it were me, I think that may have been the easiest way to tell her. When I have to give someone an answer they won't like at work I always say "it's board policy", knowing that they will back me up on my decisions.
I just can't get over the woman telling me she was healthy at 353lbs....
Just because you are over weight or obese doesn't necessarily mean you are unhealthy!! I mean other then being Fat perhaps at this point in her life she has no other health issues. I mean if she stays at this weight and doesn't plan to lose anything she could be setting herself up for future health problems but at this point she may only be fat. Why shouldn't she be proud of who she is? my size shouldn't make a difference on how others treat me.
I feel the doctor was totally wrong in lying, why lie why not just tell the truth I'm not comfortable delivering your baby and the hospital isn't equipped if something was to go wrong. I'm sure if it was put that way she would have been happy to be referred to another doctor and hospital. I mean honestly who really wants to be with a doctor who doesn't want to treat you anyways, instead he makes it sound like he is discriminating against her weight.
I'm not sure how she is placing the blame of her weight on the doctor? she is just upset she was told she has to go to another hospital. All in all there was no reason to lie.0 -
At my highest weight, 357, I was healthy. Granted, I was too heavy, but my numbers were just fine. My blood pressure, heart rate, cholesterol, blood sugar, thyroid, triglycerides, etc were all within normal levels. No diabetes. No high blood pressure. None of the issues many obese people have. Doctors were usually pretty shocked.
My point is, you can't assume she isn't healthy just because of her weight. If she's speaking in terms of bloodwork alone, she may be right. On paper, I was perfectly healthy (if you ignored my BMI). Still am. I've lost 54 pounds, and I'm sure my numbers are about the same or better. Am I a healthy weight? Heck no. Am I healthy, generally? Yes.
I don't think it's right that he lied to her. He should have explained her options. He took the chicken way out of it, and that's wrong.
I have to call BS on this. I have never had problems with my BP, I have never had problems with my cholesterol, diabetes or anything like that either. But just because those vital stats are ok does not mean you are healthy. At 260 pounds, all my stats were good too, but it made me sick to my stomach to walk for 20 minutes. It took me losing 50lbs to realize how unhealthy I actually was and how much potential I was lacking physically. Denial is a horrible thing.
I have to call BS on you, dear. I currently weigh close to 300lbs. I am also pregnant. My blood pressure was taken yesterday and was 101/70. All of my stats are awesome. I can RUN up and down stairs no problem. I can EASILY walk more than 20 minutes. With no pain. And I do. All of the time. In the summer I walk around the small lake near our house 1-2 times per week and that is a 4 mile walk and I do it in a little over an hour. I have a close friend who just had a baby last year and she in in the healthy weight range. She had super high blood pressure and had to be put on bed rest for a month and induced three weeks early. Health is relative. It depends much more on genetics, how much you move your body, and what you put into it... than what you weigh. I am not saying that I am "healthy" because I know that carrying around the extra weight puts a strain on my body. Which is why I am here and working on it. But dont sit in your smug little corner and pick at those around you. I dont know why you even posted this? Does it make you feel superior? It shouldn't.
I'm not picking on anyone, anyone who knows me would testify to that. Neither did I say that people at a healthy weight do not have medical problems. :huh: I do not agree with bodyshaming I just posted an article that is relevant to many people here and something I thought many people would be interested in. Then stated my opinion on the issue.
You just stated yourself that carrying the extra weight puts a strain on your body....What do you think it does to a fetus that a body is supporting? it is the same reason I am here too. According to my BP, cholesterol and other factors, I have no problems but I am by no means healthy. I just admit and accept it and try to do something to change it.
Are you sure you aren't picking on anyone? I mean, you even admitted that you have a problem with people pushing "fat acceptance." Because all people who are fat should feel more self-loathing than accepting of their weight? Is that really healthier? I readily admit AND accept my own fatness. I love my body. I want to be healthy. I accept the fact that in order to improve my health, I have to change my body composition and get rid of the chub. I also accept that it is REALLY effing hard to do. But I am still here. I think threads of this nature come way too close to body-shaming, even if it wasn't your intention. I think that shaming people who are fat is deplorable. Shaming fat people is what leads to unhealthy practices like drastic calorie deficits, and bariatric surgery...whatever it takes to make themselves appear to be more healthy...even though they are not. I just don't see what purpose it serves. Other than to make those doing the shaming somehow feel better about themselves?0 -
How is it "fat shaming" when a doctor who is treating you for HEALTH issues tells you to lose weight? I'm not sure that he actually said, "You WILL die by age 30" or if that was your perception of what he actually said. IF he did say it exactly like that, it's probably best you found someone else. No doctor can guarantee your death.I will say that I have been "fat shamed" by two doctors. One told me that I was going to die by age thirty...Yep JERK!! and a liar!!..LOL
If a doctor tells you to lose weight before a surgery, that is not body shaming. If he gave you a certain time frame, I'd assume it was a reasonable expectation. Telling a patient they're not losing the weight necessary fast enough for a scheduled surgery is not fat shaming.The other I went to for a surgery but I needed to lose weight for the surgery. I was working hard losing 1-5 pounds a week..and he would tell me that I wasn't losing it fast enough..that I wasn't working hard enough..I said excuse me do you see me busting my butt everyday. Do you know half of what I'm doing to lose the weight..I told him everything and he said its just not fast enough. How do you tell the doctor to shove it up his@ss politely?..I finally left him. And I will never recommend him to another person!!!
It sounds to me like you don't want any doctor telling you to lose weight.0 -
Discrimination is a serious issue even if she's okay with going to the other hospital. How is this unclear?
I edited my earlier post to respond to this issue, so please go back.0 -
I was 346.4 and I knew it was unhealthy but was so depressed, I kept eating and didn't care....that's changed now!!0
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How is it "fat shaming" when a doctor who is treating you for HEALTH issues tells you to lose weight? I'm not sure that he actually said, "You WILL die by age 30" or if that was your perception of what he actually said. IF he did say it exactly like that, it's probably best you found someone else. No doctor can guarantee your death.I will say that I have been "fat shamed" by two doctors. One told me that I was going to die by age thirty...Yep JERK!! and a liar!!..LOL
If a doctor tells you to lose weight before a surgery, that is not body shaming. If he gave you a certain time frame, I'd assume it was a reasonable expectation. Telling a patient they're not losing the weight necessary fast enough for a scheduled surgery is not fat shaming.The other I went to for a surgery but I needed to lose weight for the surgery. I was working hard losing 1-5 pounds a week..and he would tell me that I wasn't losing it fast enough..that I wasn't working hard enough..I said excuse me do you see me busting my butt everyday. Do you know half of what I'm doing to lose the weight..I told him everything and he said its just not fast enough. How do you tell the doctor to shove it up his@ss politely?..I finally left him. And I will never recommend him to another person!!!
It sounds to me like you don't want any doctor telling you to lose weight.
Yes, I'm sure it was reasonable for him to expect her to lose more than 5lbs a WEEK?
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I don't think it's discrimination and I think the doctor made the right call.
By the same token I'm sure the woman was just embarrassed, basically she's being told that not only does she have to live with the problems tied to her size, but now her future child is being affected by it too. That's a hard pill to swallow, even if it's true.
Agreed I think the doctor made the right call.0 -
I was 346.4 and I knew it was unhealthy but was so depressed, I kept eating and didn't care....that's changed now!!
Congratulations, but you can actually be both fat and healthy.0 -
Doctor was wrong to say it was policy - but right to insist it was in her best interests and the safest option.0
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Discrimination is a serious issue even if she's okay with going to the other hospital. How is this unclear?
Also, unless there's something in Indiana law (or federal law) of which I'm unaware, doctors aren't required to treat someone for whom they don't feel they can provide adequate care - and it would be unwise for any doctor to do so. Attorneys run into this problem a lot, too - I was once told I was a b*tch once for being "too good" to handle a child custody case when I practiced real estate law and had never handled a family law case in my life even though I provided a referral to a very competent family law attorney. Apparently I am supposed to be an expert in everything, but you bet your a** that I'd have been sued for malpractice if I'd mishandled that jerk's case.
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Morbid obesity is by definition unhealthy. MO is a disease process so for those of us who are obese, we are unhealthy. Fatt acceptance should not even be a term in our lexicon because we should never accept any disease process and try to disguise it as some sort of personal choice or civil right. I do not believe obese people should be discriminated against; however, there are well documented problems caused during pregnancy by obesity. Frankly, I find anyone who gets pregnant, is obese and tries to justify her obesity to be selfish just like a smoker who gets pregnant. Having once weight 400 pounds and being "healthy" I can tell you I was fooling myself. I have lost nearly 150 pounds and despite having near stellar lab values and vital signs, running several miles per week and eating healtheir, I am still obese and therefore not completely healthy. Obesity is an epidemic in our society because we want what we want when we want it and we refuse to accept the harsh reality that our bodies are designed to ingest and burn a certain number of calories per day. If you try to justify this woman's actions you are part of the problem.0
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I'm an attorney, but I'm not licensed to practice in Indiana. Additionally, I don't do medical malpractice or do a whole lot of civil litigation (because I am rather conservative about the cases I do take in that realm), but here goes.
Here's what I don't understand about her case (I would love to get my hands on the complaint). The doctor said that the reason she couldn't deliver at the local hospital was because it was hospital policy not to take patients over 350 lbs. That was untrue, so either (1) the doctor actually thought that was the case, in which case it was an innocent mistake, or (2) she knew it wasn't the case but didn't want to say the real reason why the patient should deliver in Indianapolis, which isn't cool - but not necessarily reason to sue.
The patient admits in the article that she'd have been ok with delivering in Indy if her doctor had simply said outright that it would be better for her and the baby.
It's only because the doctor lied about it (or didn't know the truth) that she's pissed off and apparently is why she is suing.
I think that she has a right to be pissed off that her doctor lied to her or was uninformed as to hospital policies, but if she was already ok with going to Indy based on the premise of better healthcare, what are her losses/damages?
I understand completely!! And agree! The only real problem is the doctor should have been more thoughtful of how to broach the subject and be honest.
I've had a doctor tell me they are not qualified to handle my pregnancy because of a test saying my daughter was likely to be born with spina bifida and down syndrome. She referred me to a doctor that is very experienced and in my opinion the best I've run across. He was very supportive and helpful through a very stressful time in my life. Those are two doctors that I will always refer people to. They are kind, considerate, supportive, and will speak plainly to you while not trying to be hurtful. That is what all doctors should do.
I think in medical school..if there isn't a class on tactfulness, there should be!0 -
I think the doctor could have been honest. "We aren't equipped to safely deliver your baby here due to your weight, but _______ hospital is, and we will have your chart faxed to them in advance."0
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.......... sorry but i just can't help thinking how bad that OB/GYN wishes he would've become a podiatrist instead. how bad would it be to look up a 400-pound woman's yoo-hoo. :noway: I work in a hospital too, sometimes you just say "it's hospital policy, sorry" because it's the best way to get the patient to STFU and do the right thing.0
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.......... sorry but i just can't help thinking how bad that OB/GYN wishes he would've become a podiatrist instead. how bad would it be to look up a 400-pound woman's yoo-hoo. :noway: I work in a hospital too, sometimes you just say "it's hospital policy, sorry" because it's the best way to get the patient to STFU and do the right thing.
Your fatphobia makes me physically ill.0 -
I had a baby at 38 and was morbidly obese...my DOCTOR said I was healthy.... no blood work problems... no health problems... argue with that!!
Morbidly obese is not healthy. Your blood work could be fine. Your BP could be fine. You can be disease free. Your weight was not in a healthy range. Your doctor should never have said, "You're healthy" if you were morbidly obese.
Again... I understand and he understood that my I was not at my optimal weight... which is why I have lost over 100 lbs since my son...
Regarding what he should or should not have told me... the fact is he did... and he has the medical license to back it up.0 -
I feel the doctor was wrong! There are all types of people in this world, what kind of doctor could treat just a particular subset... and i use subset in terms of weight category.
I was pregnant and just gave birth to my daughter last october, i weighed about 360, i did lose a lot of weight while pregnant i'm about 286 now, but the fact was i had no health issues. No high blood pressure, diabetes, no high cholesterol, nothing like that. I was very obsessed with staying on top of things like that because i knew because of my weight i could easily get any of those plus more.
i moved to another state and a doctor basically told me something similar to that, she was really rude about it. long story short she stated that if i didn't do a particular test i was going to get kicked out of the clinic and blah blah. (much more details i'm not including). I am in the process of filling a complaint against them, haven't done it yet due to being busy in school, and a newborn.
But yes, the doctor was wrong! If the doctor was being honest, saying the other hospital is better equipped to deal with a high risk pregnancy/delivery i would be okay... but don't say it because you're afraid... I think that is BS0 -
I am around the same weight of this mother, and expecting. It wasn't a planned pregnancy, but it still a happy expectance. I don't think she should be complaining if the doctor does not feel comfortable, but to to say the child is doomed due to her weight is just riduculous. I weighed 360 when I had my first daughter. She is completely healthy, had no nutritional deficits, does not have ashtma, and is not overweight. To say that only "thin" people can have children is quite unfair. If we all waited until the timing is perfect, hardly anyone would have children. I was quite concerned last time about my weight, and my doctor told me weight only plays a small role and just to eat healthily during pregnany.0
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If a doctor or hospital was not equipped to treat me the last thing I would do is complain. I would find a hospital that could give me and my baby the best care. Her weight has created a complication. Doctors take an oath to do no harm. What more can you ask for than a doctor that is honest enough to assess your situation and say 'I am not qualified. But here are people that are.'?
^^ So much this!
I can only imagine how pissed she'd have been had the doctor delivered the baby, unequipped or unprepared, resulting in the still-birth of the child. It's crazy to think that people will take up litigation on someone attempting to be honest, holding their hands up and saying: "I'm not the person for this job!"
Kudos to the doc. Hope he gets justice.0 -
If this was her OBGYN doctor, I would think that this would have been established way before the delivery.
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according to me( EMS tech) it's the best call. obese patients are difficult to manage even in hospital setting and an emergency transfer and anesthesia for C-section could be hazardous for her, best is check in the hospital, get under observation and labor suite people are ready with every thing including experienced and senior personnel. my 2 cents, this woman needs counselling ...So here locally, a morbidly obese mother to be has filed a complaint with a hospital after a doctor told her that at her weight, 353lbs, she would need to deliver in hospital in Indianapolis. She also contacted the news stating that they were discriminating against her because of her weight. The doctor told her it was policy of the hospital, which it isn't, but the hospital he asked her to deliver in has better neonatal care.
http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/local/woman-says-doctor-lied-about-hospital-policy
In my opinion, the doctor obviously doesn't feel comfortable with the situation or doesn't want to be liable if there is a delivery problem. The fact is, a morbidly obsese mother is 3 times more likely to have a stillbirth, has greater C-section complications at risk and just the problems she is setting her child up for are disturbing: not enough nutrients, risk of asthma and more likely to face childhood obesity.
The mother told me that she had no health problems..... Ok, I was once in denial about how healthy I was at 260lbs, let alone 353lbs. There comes a time when you need to stop kidding yourself and realize that 353lbs in NOT healthy. Sadly, she will probably make some money off of this issue.
What do you think? Was the doctor wrong for saying it was hospital policy? Does this mother have the right to be mad or is she being a drama queen?0 -
How is it "fat shaming" when a doctor who is treating you for HEALTH issues tells you to lose weight? I'm not sure that he actually said, "You WILL die by age 30" or if that was your perception of what he actually said. IF he did say it exactly like that, it's probably best you found someone else. No doctor can guarantee your death.I will say that I have been "fat shamed" by two doctors. One told me that I was going to die by age thirty...Yep JERK!! and a liar!!..LOL
If a doctor tells you to lose weight before a surgery, that is not body shaming. If he gave you a certain time frame, I'd assume it was a reasonable expectation. Telling a patient they're not losing the weight necessary fast enough for a scheduled surgery is not fat shaming.The other I went to for a surgery but I needed to lose weight for the surgery. I was working hard losing 1-5 pounds a week..and he would tell me that I wasn't losing it fast enough..that I wasn't working hard enough..I said excuse me do you see me busting my butt everyday. Do you know half of what I'm doing to lose the weight..I told him everything and he said its just not fast enough. How do you tell the doctor to shove it up his@ss politely?..I finally left him. And I will never recommend him to another person!!!
It sounds to me like you don't want any doctor telling you to lose weight.
No he didn't give me a time frame or anything. He would just tell me I wasn't losing it fast enough...didn't even offer advice.
And yes that one doctor did tell me I would die by 30..I even have a witness..but I won't sue over them hurting my feelings. I'm not like that. I just look for a doctor that will be honest and tactful.
I have a wonderful doctor now that is encouraging and kind. She is happy and congratulatory when there is a loss. That is what I look for. Positive doctors. You don't need someone negative when there is a long road to travel.0
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