It's a fad diet if...

They usually take offence because the way you type comes across as rude and condesending.

And I shouldn't have to say I eat "all natural" when I am a low carber. Yes, basically it is the same in theory.............However, I have a structured plan that I follow and I should be able to talk about it as freely as the next person does on this site.

Dude, seriously.... I cannot believe I am the only person who has said anything about this. Perhaps nobody else in this discussion has eaten an all natural diet and doesn't know better, but THIS statement takes every bit of your credibility away--- period. This is not true in any way whatsoever. A low carb diet has nothing to do with a natural diet, and a natural diet has nothing to do with a low carb diet. Can they both be done simultaneously? Yes. But does doing one lead you to doing another? Not even close! What in the world are you talking about?

I make my own mayonnaise, salad dressings, tomato sauce, hot sauce, ketchup, salsa (again, no preservatives, no added sugar, no fillers)


Since when is Kraft salad dressing homemade? I saw in your food diary that you used it which is fine, but if you make these claims then you act arrogant and condesending when others eat...gasp a 100 calorie pack, it kind discredits what you say because you yourself do eat forms of processed foods, even if on occasion which then makes you no different than a person who eats the occasional 100 calorie pack. You have found what works for you and thats great. I have read many posts on here start to finish and I don't see people bashing your lifestyle. I see people getting aggravated by your arrogance and argumenative attitude. You have no problem making statements against low calorie low fat diet, but God forbid someone disagree with low carb diets.

And I shouldn't have to say I eat "all natural" when I am a low carber. Yes, basically it is the same in theory.............However, I have a structured plan that I follow and I should be able to talk about it as freely as the next person does on this site.

Dude, seriously.... I cannot believe I am the only person who has said anything about this. Perhaps nobody else in this discussion has eaten an all natural diet and doesn't know better, but THIS statement takes every bit of your credibility away--- period. This is not true in any way whatsoever. A low carb diet has nothing to do with a natural diet, and a natural diet has nothing to do with a low carb diet. Can they both be done simultaneously? Yes. But does doing one lead you to doing another? Not even close! What in the world are you talking about?

*waves hands around* Okay, again as I seem to be the only other low carber (and I play nice :laugh: ) I have to speak up! You are totally right! NO they do not necessarily go hand in hand! You can definitely combine the two but just because you eat low carb does not necessarily mean you eat all natural! I'm wishing I had my Atkins book handy right about now to see if that's mentioned anywhere in it because I'm pretty sure it's not!

And right on to everyone pointing out that certain peoples are using "processed" food!! *gasp* It's BAD. :laugh: Kinda contradicts the "I make all my own food and only eat all natural"....

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Where am I contradicting myself? 95-99% of the time, I make every thing I eat. Few occasions where I eat out or use something that is bottled or packaged. I haven't eaten anything frozen in years.

Where am I contradicting myself? 95-99% of the time, I make every thing I eat. Few occasions where I eat out or use something that is bottled or packaged. I haven't eaten anything frozen in years.

You may eat that way, and that's great. But you are also saying that a low carb diet suggests an all natural diet, which just isn't true. Whatever book you read may promote low carbs AND unprocessed foods, but those diets are not the same thing or even remotely similar.

I think most people get a negative view about low-carb from the 1-2 week induction on atkins. it's the most talked about part of it and most people tend to get sick, and drop it, then tell all their friends how horrible it was.

I'm clearly not an expert on diets, and have no preference either way...but I see nothing wrong with someone choosing to do what suits them.

I tried atkins for 1 week (actually I think it was like 3 days lol). I really wanted to stick with it, but felt soo terrible that I gave it up.

And I shouldn't have to say I eat "all natural" when I am a low carber. Yes, basically it is the same in theory.............However, I have a structured plan that I follow and I should be able to talk about it as freely as the next person does on this site.

Dude, seriously.... I cannot believe I am the only person who has said anything about this. Perhaps nobody else in this discussion has eaten an all natural diet and doesn't know better, but THIS statement takes every bit of your credibility away--- period. This is not true in any way whatsoever. A low carb diet has nothing to do with a natural diet, and a natural diet has nothing to do with a low carb diet. Can they both be done simultaneously? Yes. But does doing one lead you to doing another? Not even close! What in the world are you talking about?

If you are doing a Low Carb Plan the CORRECT way, you are eating an all natural or as close to natural eating plan over 85% of the time.

If someone is living off of Frozen South Beach meals and other processed foods and merely keeps carb low, that is not a low carb plan. That is a processed eating plan. In the 2002 edition of the Atkins book it stresses about shopping the perimeter of the store and eating WHOLE processed foods.

Ya know what, you're RIGHT.:flowerforyou:

Damn it! Why didn't this work!?

Now it is spreading to other threads like a virus.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/99668-weight-loss-myths-exposed?hl=ketosis+irritability&page=2#posts-1377805

Enough is enough people. July feels the way that she feels. She is unapoligetic about it. So be it. We are getting no where with the back and forth.

She makes SOME good points. She's found something that works for her. Awesome.

We are on page 5 of a thread I can't even remember the OP for. It seems like the community is is expecting an apology for things that came across as offensive. I don't think it's going to happen so moving on would just healthier for all of us.

July, the quicker you come to understand that people are "attacking" your attitude and not your "lifestyle" the happier you will be here. Somehow I doubt that matters to you and I'm really not expecting a change. You seem to create the drama wherever you go. I hope you prove me wrong.

BRAVO!!!!!!!

One thing to add though....throwing out random percetnages (85%, 90-95%, etc) without citing sources can really limit your credibility. Just plucking high percetnages fromt he sky is not scientific research.
And with that, I am done.
It takes one Right Fighter to know another, I suppose. I would like to think I go about my arguings with a bit of kindness though.. Best of luck to you, July! Keep up your hard work!

I am not being argumentative. That is where being on a forum and not speaking face to face with voice and tone inflection gets skewed on the internet.................People are just too sensitive.

Anywhoo...............The original poster bashed my way of eating by calling it a Fad, which is a flat out LIE.

This is supposed to be a website where all ways of eating are to be accepted and the low carb lifestyle is bashed daily by certain members calling is unhealthy, a fad, etc.

Me being more calm and rational, just gets me bashed even more, so YES I am defending What I Believe In.

For Pete's Sake!