It's a fad diet if...

According to a survey I just made up, 82% of MFP users are sick of this thread.

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I'm in the 18% then. I've been LMBO in this thread. :laugh:

Where am I contradicting myself? 95-99% of the time, I make every thing I eat. Few occasions where I eat out or use something that is bottled or packaged. I haven't eaten anything frozen in years.

Nothing is wrong with frozen veggies, I purchase some frozen veggies from time to time. I am talking like the microwave meals and such.

Sounds like you're contradicting yourself to me.

Where am I contradicting myself? 95-99% of the time, I make every thing I eat. Few occasions where I eat out or use something that is bottled or packaged. I haven't eaten anything frozen in years.

Nothing is wrong with frozen veggies, I purchase some frozen veggies from time to time. I am talking like the microwave meals and such.

Sounds like you're contradicting yourself to me.

I should have said Frozen meals. Frozen veggies are not TV dinners, lean cuisines, etc..................the stuff with all the chemicals in it.

There is a lot of unkindness going on in this thread! It is not just from one person. I don't agree with July24lioness' approach at stating her case for the low carb diet, but I have seen quite of few of you make very nasty comments because you don't like her attitude. I don't know maybe I am wrong but I have always been taught 2 wrongs don't make a right!!! I think that we can all agree to disagree and what ever is working for one that is great. I have heard people refer to her as a troll, there has been more than one person who has made fun of her. I am not trying to come off as "high and mighty" I just actually felt bad for her. I believe she is passionate about living the low carb lifestyle. I think she may rub some of you the wrong way, that should not give some an excuse to ridicule her. Just a thought.

There is a lot of unkindness going on in this thread! It is not just from one person. I don't agree with July24lioness' approach at stating her case for the low carb diet, but I have seen quite of few of you make very nasty comments because you don't like her attitude. I don't know maybe I am wrong but I have always been taught 2 wrongs don't make a right!!! I think that we can all agree to disagree and what ever is working for one that is great. I have heard people refer to her as a troll, there has been more than one person who has made fun of her. I am not trying to come off as "high and mighty" I just actually felt bad for her. I believe she is passionate about living the low carb lifestyle. I think she may rub some of you the wrong way, that should not give some an excuse to ridicule her. Just a thought.

I think the term troll was short for forum troll (not trying to put words in anyones mouth but...), which is different from a regular troll. You can look up Forum Troll on UrbanDictionary.com, it means someone who makes controversial or annoying statements on purpose to basically "stir up a fight". For the record I don't think she fits that category, but I thought I should clarify since many people on MFP aren't up to some of the urban net jargon out there.

Thanks for educating me on that. I had a feeling "troll" had a diff. meaning verses literally a troll. But I was just trying to point out that we can discuss a subject without the meaness.

I just finished reading the book "21 days to a healthy heart" and it is by far the most valuable book I read. It basically talks about carbs, fats, the history of when trans fats and other oils were introduced into our diets. It is actually mind boggling to me. I especially love the information regarding cholesterol. Our bodies produce cholesterol every day because it is needed. The cholesterol we eat in many foods has been proven to not elevate our cholesterol as well as animal fat (saturated fat). Boy I could go on about all the research I have been doing. I love how the FDA tells us that a whole grain pop tart (refined carbs and sugar) is good for us and at the same time they tell us not to each too much eggs because of the cholesterol in them.

Since I have cut out almost all refined carbs and sugar from my diet, a whole host of issues I have been having has been eliminated.....one of those problems was digestive problems and acid reflux. When I eat wholesome foods such as farm raised eggs, organic milk, organic meat (farm raised), fruits and vegetables in moderation, real butter (not margarine), exotic oils (not vegetable oil, canola oil, etc.)......I am extremely satisfied and getting plenty of carbs from those foods. When I say farm raised, I mean they are actually grazing on grasses and such in the open air.....not some factory farm where they pump their foods full of antibiotics, hormones and pesticides. I pay a little bit more but it is well worth it. If I ate out everyday, I would pay far more than I do for my groceries.

What I am doing is a lifestyle change that is totally worth it. Carbs in todays world is piss poor carbs. Even all those breads and such that have 50 ingredients on the packaging that you cannot pronounce. It is BS. We are all being poisoned into thinking they are good for us. 6-11 servings of grains that the Food Pyramind suggests is total Hogwash. Why on earth does millions and millions of people have type 2 diabetes (The kind you are not born with)? It is because we simply eat way too much and our body cannot process all the crap most of us eat. Most of the carbs today irritate most of us and cause problems.

I am not sure if anyone can see my food diary so far for today.....I made it public, but I didn't eat any bread or pasta and I got plenty of carbs for the day.

I highly recommend the book "21 days to a healthy heart." So much research done regarding how food has changed in the world since 1910 to now. How many people die from heart attacks since the government said butter is the devil and to start eating margarine instead. Incredible!

Just a simple question and I don't care what FAD or non-FAD diet you are on, to each his own but if July is fighting everyone with teeth and nails about her "lifestyle" then why in over a year have we not lost more than 10% of the weight you have set yourself to lose? :huh: I mean if you are waving a flag about how great your lifestyle is compared to others who say eat 100 calorie packs (I do all the time thank you ) then why is it you aren't losing more weight? Don't bash other MFPers who say eat 100 calorie packs (aka moi) if you don't want others to bash you

I wondered the same thing. I know I can't lose weight on a 2000 calorie a day diet.

Ya know what, you're RIGHT.:flowerforyou:

Damn it! Why didn't this work!?

Now it is spreading to other threads like a virus.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/99668-weight-loss-myths-exposed?hl=ketosis+irritability&page=2#posts-1377805

Enough is enough people. July feels the way that she feels. She is unapoligetic about it. So be it. We are getting no where with the back and forth.

She makes SOME good points. She's found something that works for her. Awesome.

We are on page 5 of a thread I can't even remember the OP for. It seems like the community is is expecting an apology for things that came across as offensive. I don't think it's going to happen so moving on would just healthier for all of us.

July, the quicker you come to understand that people are "attacking" your attitude and not your "lifestyle" the happier you will be here. Somehow I doubt that matters to you and I'm really not expecting a change. You seem to create the drama wherever you go. I hope you prove me wrong.

Here is a situation where I love getting proved wrong.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/99827-getting-it-off-my-chest-and-apology

Can we let it go now?

Just a simple question and I don't care what FAD or non-FAD diet you are on, to each his own but if July is fighting everyone with teeth and nails about her "lifestyle" then why in over a year have we not lost more than 10% of the weight you have set yourself to lose? :huh: I mean if you are waving a flag about how great your lifestyle is compared to others who say eat 100 calorie packs (I do all the time thank you ) then why is it you aren't losing more weight? Don't bash other MFPers who say eat 100 calorie packs (aka moi) if you don't want others to bash you

I wondered the same thing. I know I can't lose weight on a 2000 calorie a day diet.

I know me neither which is why I don't understand why anyone would fight fight fight about how great their plan/diet/magic trick is and its supported by scientific what-you-ma-call-it when your numbers are clearly not speaking volumes. Just saying...

Well, you are a fairly new member on this site and last year I did lose 60 pounds and proceeded to put it back on after my husband got laid off, money was tight, we were going to move to Seattle so I could start a naturopathic medicine program and then decided to move to the St Louis area. I had health problems and stress, which caused me to gain the majority of it back.

I am battling thyroid issues and that is why I am losing the weight slowly. The weight loss isn't key to me with following a low carb lifestyle. The way I sleep, the more energy I have, etc are more important to me than a number on the scale. The weight loss is just an added benefit.

I can tell you one thing though. Since the beginning of this year I may have only lost 14 pounds, but I have reversed the Type 2 Diabetes back to Insulin Resistance. So that is accomplishment in itself.

Funny.... You can lose weight and get healthy eating a regular well balanced diet that includes carbs, protein, good fats and fruits and veggies. I am living proof of that. This is a life style for me and it works.

I would be interested to see the weight loss of the low carb or low fat as compared to mine and the sustainability of sticking to that diet as well.

I actually read an article yesterday (I can't remember which thread it was posted in, sorry!) in which they tested this. They put different people on different diets (high protein, high carb, low protein, low carb, etc) and in the end, everyone lost the exact same amount of weight. This proved that, really, what matters is the calories.

Also, I forgot to add this, because some people were asking how you would lose weight on a 2000 calorie a day diet. Well, yes, it is possible.... if a)you have a killer metabolism b)you work out a lot c)you're on the heavier side. I don't say this to be mean, of course- but if you're a heavier person, you can easily lose weight eating 2000 cals per day because you're carrying around a heavier load, and burn more calories than someone smaller. I find the more weight I lose, the last calories I burn per day, and therefore, the less calories I can eat without gaining.

For Pete's Sake!

What diet does Pete follow?:laugh: :laugh:

Good ol' Pete. He follows the low calarb diet. It's new. It's NOT a fad. Do your research.

Eating a reduced-carb diet, again, means exactly that. You cut back on the carbs. Going back to the Burger King example (since it's the one most frequently used), meat and cheese ARE low carb. But far from all-natural.

Where are you all getting that a burger from burger king is not all natural? It is 100% USDA inspected Ground Beef and that is it. Therefore it is a natural food. The cheese is processed, but in a pinch it will have to do. Not something I do everyday.

I am a little confused about something--- unprocessed vs. all natural. Are they the same thing, exactly? I am under the impression that all natural meat means grass fed, hormone free, free range, etc. but that unprocessed meat doesn't meet those qualifications necessarily.

Just thought I would try to lighten the mood with a little joke!

"Inside me lives a skinny woman crying to get out. But I can usually shut her up with cookies..."
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Two blondes decided to share a can of diet soda. One blonde opened the can, poured half the contents into her own glass, and the other half into her friend's glass. Before throwing the can away, she stopped to read the nutritional information on the side.

"Wow, there's only one calorie per can," she commented.

"Hmmmm," replied her friend, "I wonder which glass has the calorie!"

In no way I am trying to bash blondes, I too am a blonde and proud of it!:flowerforyou:

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Bottom line is simply that everyone has different nutritional needs, and it is up to each individual to be her / his own advocate by researching and learning as much as possible about any eating plan. No reason for arguing on this subject.