dont eat meat ever again!
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I have friends who are vegetarian, and it doesn't bother me (and they aren't bothered by my being an omnivore). The only comments I'll make are occasionally asking them for menu or recipe suggestions the times I've given up meat for Lent, and they're generally quite obliging.0
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Also, I don't understand why vegetarians have to declare they are vegetarians.
If someone offers you something, can't you just say "no." If you are out to dinner, can't you just say "I don't like meat". Why do you have to put a label on yourself and make it a big deal?
Just simply say "no." It's a lot easier. When I don't want chocolate at work, I say "no.", I don't say "I'm on a diet", "I'm counting my calories", "I'm overweight" etc.
By simply saying, "no thanks, I'm a vegetarian" we can easily avoid any future uncomfortable situations. I don't point out that I am vegetarian when I am eating with others unless I feel it's necessary, i.e. need a restaurant to prepare a veg meal for me or don't want to appear ungracious to my host/hostess.0 -
I am a meat eater.
I have an enormous amount of respect for the vegetarians that eat that way for ethical reasons.
I'm kind of torn over this.
I went veggie in 2011 and made it through for 6 months.
It was hell, I felt weak and hungry a lot of the time and my diet consisted of mainly cheese sandwiches.
This my own fault though - I didn't educate myself properly on what to eat to replace the protein missing from my diet and I could have tried a lot harder. I want back to eating meat in the end as I found being a veggie too hard.
I am still eating meat but I carry a guilt over it.
I do think it's OK for humans to eat animals but my problem lies with how animals are treated by humans.
Like, chickens being kept in tiny cages and horrific conditions, things like that. I know you can buy free range etc but the reality is most people can't afford to do that so they buy the cheapest meats they can in order to feed their family.
No one ever stops to think - why is this meat so cheap? Oh yeah, it's because the animal was fed cr*p and not kept in very nice conditions, it cost hardly anything to raise this animal before it was slaughtered so therefore the meat people can still make a profit when when selling a whole chicken for 4 pound sterling in Asda.
If we hunted animals like animals hunted each other and only ate to survive, I would be fine with it.
But it breaks my heart when I see meat on the reduced to clear shelf in supermarkets, knowing an animal lost its life for no reason, it will just get thrown away.
I hope to go veggie again in thenear future but I will do it in a much more sensible way this time, so it can be sustainable for me. I need to experiment with some new foods, ie tofu and lentils, pulses etc so I am getting nutrients I need.
The ultimate goal would be to go Vegan, but one step at a time
Exactly this - this topic is so overdone though!0 -
I promise not to rub meat in your face... If and only when you get off your damn high horse about being a vegetarian.
meh. they're taking a stand (however small and personal) against the horrific treatment of animals in the industry, the destruction of our environment, and they're making an arguably better choice for their health (debatable, there's research that supports it)
why shouldn't they be proud of it?0 -
My old roomie/best person ever was and is a vegetarian. I loved cooking for her and checking packages to make sure she could have it. The same with my vegetarian cousin. When she would visit everyone would "forget" and I would have to make something for her to eat. I would get so mad when they were mean and told her to just eat meat and taunt her. I never understood it. It's not like them eating veggies made me feel guilty for eating meat. If I was eating with a vegetarian who was uncomfortable with what I was eating and they tried to guilt me into not eating meat, I really wouldn't have a problem with it as long as they help me try new things. :]0
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Yesterday there was a thread where someone was asking why meat eaters don't just substitute morning star products for their meat. That sort of thing doesn't go over well.
I have no problem with vegetarians. I have a problem with anyone who gets evangelical about their food choices, whether they be vegetarian, Paleo, clean eaters, whatever.
^^^THIS!
Also, some people (myself included) cannot go vegetarian for health reasons. I've been told by MULTIPLE doctors now (and confirmed through tests) that I have issues taking in non-animal proteins, so monthly cheeseburgers for me!
I have a friend who went vegetarian after she hit a deer with her car (she was traumatized over it). She stayed vegetarian for 15 years and just last year her doctor told her that her thyroid was messed up and she needed other sources of protein besides beans and nuts. She also has to limit her fruit intake because of the sugar.
Personally, when I hear vegetarian I think of granolas...you know those people who always have to have a "cause" to speak out about, drive a hybrid or bicycle, have a tendency to look down at others who are leaving a bigger footprint than them...tend to dress like Rastafarian's or yuppy-ish. Guys with the jeans rolled to just above the ankle with flip flops, some sort of fedora and those thick framed glasses...that's just what immediately pops into my head.0 -
I promise not to rub meat in your face... If and only when you get off your damn high horse about being a vegetarian.
meh. they're taking a stand (however small and personal) against the horrific treatment of animals in the industry, the destruction of our environment, and they're making an arguably better choice for their health (debatable, there's research that supports it)
why shouldn't they be proud of it?
And this is why some of them get on my wick. I try to only eat "happy" meat - not always easy as I'm on a very tight budget. But I don't go on about unless someone askes.0 -
Ever since I learned that carrots scream when picked, I cannot eat a carrot until someone invents a humane way of killing them. I am a meatarian because I don't want to see the poor little vegetables cruelly treated.0
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Divisive topic is divisive. Eat whatever you like, and let other people eat whatever they like, for whatever reason they like.
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Nothing to see here, move along. *yawn*0 -
I promise not to rub meat in your face... If and only when you get off your damn high horse about being a vegetarian.
meh. they're taking a stand (however small and personal) against the horrific treatment of animals in the industry, the destruction of our environment, and they're making an arguably better choice for their health (debatable, there's research that supports it)
why shouldn't they be proud of it?
And this is why some of them get on my wick. I try to only eat "happy" meat - not always easy as I'm on a very tight budget. But I don't go on about unless someone askes.
right obviously there's a fine line and a balance, but I don't think just because people are veggie for ethical reasons automatically puts them on a "high horse" - they're just being ethically and environmentally conscious.
if you don't care about it... well... that's fine... but it doesn't mean others shouldn't.0 -
I don't consider myself a vegetarian, but I very rarely eat meat (once every few weeks or so). If I'm put into a situation where meat is really my only option then I will eat it, but otherwise I choose non-meat food.
I was out to dinner for one of my friend's birthday about two weeks ago with a group of her friends I didn't really know. We went to a Mexican place and I ordered the vegetarian fajitas. The guy next to me (who I had never met, or even spoken to) said, "Are you a vegetarian?" I replied with, "No, not really. I just prefer veggies." He came back with, "Ok, good, I f***ing hate vegetarians!" I seriously could not believe that someone would say that to essentially a complete stranger.
Who cares what people eat. It's rude people that are the problem.0 -
Ever since I learned that carrots scream when picked, I cannot eat a carrot until someone invents a humane way of killing them. I am a meatarian because I don't want to see the poor little vegetables cruelly treated.
Oh do go away.
To be ignorant to animal cruelty is one thing, some people genuinely don't know how badly animals can be treated.
To take the p*** is another.0 -
Ok.. I have to say this..
I live where cattle are raised.. I pass pastures full of cattle every day. I see them grazing contentedly.. I see calves cavorting and playing.. I don't see how this is abuse or mistreatment..0 -
Here is the problem. I do not think you are wrong and bad for wanting to eat nothing but veggies. You however do believe you are somehow better and more evolved than those of us who eat meat. (don't deny it) You are no better than the religious zealots that run around telling people they will go to hell if they don't believe exactly what the preacher says. You are wrong. You bought into a fad and you are wasting your time and mine by trying to convince any of us otherwise.0
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Ok.. I have to say this..
I live where cattle are raised.. I pass pastures full of cattle every day. I see them grazing contentedly.. I see calves cavorting and playing.. I don't see how this is abuse or mistreatment..
those are either free range farms or they're farms that haven't shipped the cattle off to the feedlot yet to be processed.
do some research on factory farms in America and the volume of meat that comes from them vs. free range farms. Also, look into the processing practices. Or just watch Forks Over Knives or Vegucated.0 -
Here is the problem. I do not think you are wrong and bad for wanting to eat nothing but veggies. You however do believe you are somehow better and more evolved than those of us who eat meat. (don't deny it) You are no better than the religious zealots that run around telling people they will go to hell if they don't believe exactly what the preacher says. You are wrong. You bought into a fad and you are wasting your time and mine by trying to convince any of us otherwise.
Wow... you are making an awfully broad assumption about a vast group of people you don't know then pushing your personal agenda on them. That's dangerous ground regardless of the issue.0 -
To answer all of your questions in a simple phrase. Probably the same reasons that some veggies say, i can't believe u eat meat.
Ignorant and defensive attitudes. To each his/her own.0 -
Here is the problem. I do not think you are wrong and bad for wanting to eat nothing but veggies. You however do believe you are somehow better and more evolved than those of us who eat meat. (don't deny it) You are no better than the religious zealots that run around telling people they will go to hell if they don't believe exactly what the preacher says. You are wrong. You bought into a fad and you are wasting your time and mine by trying to convince any of us otherwise.
Ironic much?
also religious zealots don't base their decisions on real-world facts and science but on faith. there's no comparison.0 -
Ever since I learned that carrots scream when picked, I cannot eat a carrot until someone invents a humane way of killing them. I am a meatarian because I don't want to see the poor little vegetables cruelly treated.
Oh do go away.
To be ignorant to animal cruelty is one thing, some people genuinely don't know how badly animals can be treated.
To take the p*** is another.
Wow, someone needs a sense of humour stat. :noway:0 -
Ok.. I have to say this..
I live where cattle are raised.. I pass pastures full of cattle every day. I see them grazing contentedly.. I see calves cavorting and playing.. I don't see how this is abuse or mistreatment..
True, I live in Ireland and there are cattle everywhere and they look to have lovely lives.
However they are the lucky ones. Not all animals are raised this way.
I also see farms where chickens are running around, pecking away at the corn and happy.
We don't get to see the ones in cages though, they are hidden away
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Here is the problem. I do not think you are wrong and bad for wanting to eat nothing but veggies. You however do believe you are somehow better and more evolved than those of us who eat meat. (don't deny it) You are no better than the religious zealots that run around telling people they will go to hell if they don't believe exactly what the preacher says. You are wrong. You bought into a fad and you are wasting your time and mine by trying to convince any of us otherwise.
Wow... you are making an awfully broad assumption about a vast group of people you don't know then pushing your personal agenda on them. That's dangerous ground regardless of the issue.
she's being a little... zealous... don't you think?0 -
I'm with the majority, I don't care what you do. One thing though, a few of the vegetarians I know (not all) think they are better than everyone else because they don't eat meat and take every opportunity to tell me why I shouldn't eat meat (usually while I'm eating meat). I'm an adult, I don't need preaching to, don't think you're so hard done to :flowerforyou:0
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Ok.. I have to say this..
I live where cattle are raised.. I pass pastures full of cattle every day. I see them grazing contentedly.. I see calves cavorting and playing.. I don't see how this is abuse or mistreatment..
those are either free range farms or they're farms that haven't shipped the cattle off to the feedlot yet to be processed.
do some research on factory farms in America and the volume of meat that comes from them vs. free range farms. Also, look into the processing practices. Or just watch Forks Over Knives or Vegucated.
Yeah, they get shipped to the feedlot.. but they don't spend their lives there.. These animals are raised for food.. They're not pets. No matter how they're slaughtered, whether it be through large processing plants or locally, they are going to be 'fed up' before that happens.. And then they're going to be killed and butchered..0 -
Ever since I learned that carrots scream when picked, I cannot eat a carrot until someone invents a humane way of killing them. I am a meatarian because I don't want to see the poor little vegetables cruelly treated.
Oh do go away.
To be ignorant to animal cruelty is one thing, some people genuinely don't know how badly animals can be treated.
To take the p*** is another.
Wow, someone needs a sense of humour stat. :noway:
Sorry, I don't mean to be miserable. I actually normally have a great sense of humour believe it or not
It's just something I feel strongly about so it upsets me when animal cruelty gets joked about.
I'm not out to cause an arguement, just didn't like the post.0 -
Two members of my family are vegetarian, one for medical reasons and the other out of solidarity. Whatever they must do or want to do is their business, fine with that. Just for myself, personally, I would not give up eating meat unless the result was certain death, and maybe not then. NO meat substitues taste anywhere near as delicious as the real thing. Everyone is entitled to their own choices. The only time this subject bothers me is when vegetarians tell me that meat is "murder". I have nothing but contempt for that viewpoint.0
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Here is the problem. I do not think you are wrong and bad for wanting to eat nothing but veggies. You however do believe you are somehow better and more evolved than those of us who eat meat. (don't deny it) You are no better than the religious zealots that run around telling people they will go to hell if they don't believe exactly what the preacher says. You are wrong. You bought into a fad and you are wasting your time and mine by trying to convince any of us otherwise.
Wow... you are making an awfully broad assumption about a vast group of people you don't know then pushing your personal agenda on them. That's dangerous ground regardless of the issue.
she's being a little... zealous... don't you think?
I am too lazy to look up the exact definition of "zealous" right now... but, methinks you may be on target.0 -
Ok.. I have to say this..
I live where cattle are raised.. I pass pastures full of cattle every day. I see them grazing contentedly.. I see calves cavorting and playing.. I don't see how this is abuse or mistreatment..
those are either free range farms or they're farms that haven't shipped the cattle off to the feedlot yet to be processed.
do some research on factory farms in America and the volume of meat that comes from them vs. free range farms. Also, look into the processing practices. Or just watch Forks Over Knives or Vegucated.
Yeah, they get shipped to the feedlot.. but they don't spend their lives there.. These animals are raised for food.. They're not pets. No matter how they're slaughtered, whether it be through large processing plants or locally, they are going to be 'fed up' before that happens.. And then they're going to be killed and butchered..
it's really not that simple. for your perusal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_farming0 -
I promise not to rub meat in your face... If and only when you get off your damn high horse about being a vegetarian.
meh. they're taking a stand (however small and personal) against the horrific treatment of animals in the industry, the destruction of our environment, and they're making an arguably better choice for their health (debatable, there's research that supports it)
why shouldn't they be proud of it?
And this is why some of them get on my wick. I try to only eat "happy" meat - not always easy as I'm on a very tight budget. But I don't go on about unless someone askes.
right obviously there's a fine line and a balance, but I don't think just because people are veggie for ethical reasons automatically puts them on a "high horse" - they're just being ethically and environmentally conscious.
if you don't care about it... well... that's fine... but it doesn't mean others shouldn't.
There is a difference between being ethical and being obnoxiously self righteous. It's the latter that most find offensive not the former.0 -
Ever since I learned that carrots scream when picked, I cannot eat a carrot until someone invents a humane way of killing them. I am a meatarian because I don't want to see the poor little vegetables cruelly treated.
Oh do go away.
To be ignorant to animal cruelty is one thing, some people genuinely don't know how badly animals can be treated.
To take the p*** is another.
How many slaughterhouses have you been to? Have you ever seen an ox poleaxed? I've seen animals killed humanely often and it hasn't put me off eating meat, in fact it makes me feel better that they don't suffer, most methods are very quick and the animal doesn't know what is coming. However they only exist and have any life at all because I and others like me are prepared to eat their flesh or they wouldn't be farmed. I am aware that is not the case everywhere and that cruelty to animals does exist, that is not a reason I should stop eating meat.
And I'm sorry if my little joke hit a sensitive spot, but lighten up, I will take the p*** if I like you are perfectly at liberty to respond in a like manner.0 -
I could not care less what others choose to eat. However, I do care when someone from the other camp intimates that I have a moral defect for the way I eat.0
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