So, are carbs evil or not?
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what about that is good? it also has zero to do with the average MFP-er who isn't on anabolic steroids...
If you new anything about Alberto Nunez you'd know he's not on them either.
I don't believe that for a second.
haha we can at least agree on that.
You don't have to believe - and honestly I can't give two hoots if you don't.
why does me "demonizing" a certain kind of carb have any effect on you or cause you ANY problems? out of curiosity.
Look at the thread title. People are scared of them!
As for me, lots of people who come to me for help and I help diet are scared of carbs again because people wrongly say specific carbs are bad. That's why.
You still haven't given me a good example of any carbs that are bad yet tho?0 -
carbs are not but should not be eaten after lunch and should only be good healthy carbs in the form of fiber.
Pourquoi?0 -
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what about that is good? it also has zero to do with the average MFP-er who isn't on anabolic steroids...
If you new anything about Alberto Nunez you'd know he's not on them either.
I don't believe that for a second.
haha we can at least agree on that.
You don't have to believe - and honestly I can't give two hoots if you don't.
why does me "demonizing" a certain kind of carb have any effect on you or cause you ANY problems? out of curiosity.
Look at the thread title. People are scared of them!
As for me, lots of people who come to me for help and I help diet are scared of carbs again because people wrongly say specific carbs are bad. That's why.
You still haven't given me a good example of any carbs that are bad yet tho?
there have been threads upon threads about this.
pop tarts are just as nutritious as broccoli? both carbs!0 -
NOT! Nothing is evil, unless you have TOO MUCH of it. Moderation is key. I have all those "evil" things people talk about DAILY and I have lost 84 pounds and I am still truckin'.0
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there have been threads upon threads about this.
pop tarts are just as nutritious as broccoli? both carbs!
Try living on just broccoli too. Using your logic.
Nothing wrong with pop tarts in you diet. I'm not saying just eat none stop pop tarts, no one does. But eating them to meet your goals and enjoy your diet? No problem at all.
You don't have to suffer with plain foods to hit your goals.0 -
there have been threads upon threads about this.
pop tarts are just as nutritious as broccoli? both carbs!
Try living on just broccoli too. Using your logic.
Nothing wrong with pop tarts in you diet. I'm not saying just eat none stop pop tarts, no one does. But eating them to meet your goals and enjoy your diet? No problem at all.
You don't have to suffer with plain foods to hit your goals.
you're moving the goalposts - my point is that there are carbs that are more nutritious, and carbs that are less nutritious. 0 -
you're moving the goalposts - my point is that there are carbs that are more nutritious, and carbs that are less nutritious.
No, no I'm not, check my second post here.
You are reading what you want to hear.
As long as you have your fibre in your diet, you'll be fine. Which is what agreed with, on my second post on this thread.0 -
Beer=Carbs
Beer is not evil, beer is wonderful
Therefore, carbs are not evil
Cheers :-)0 -
No, no I'm not, check my second post here.
You are reading what you want to hear.
So, what else is new?0 -
No, no I'm not, check my second post here.
You are reading what you want to hear.
So, what else is new?
LOL nothing! SSDD :laugh:0 -
As others have said, it's all about which carbs your are eating and how much. Moderation is key!
Simple carbs (white rice, white flour, white bread, pasta, crackers etc) will be turned into sugar very quickly and will be stored as fat if not used by the body.
Complex carbs (brown rice, wholegrain bread, pasta, quinoa, flaxseed etc) take longer for the body to break them down, therefore making you fuller for longer. Because they take longer to break down, your use more of the energy gain from them, so it's less likely to be stored as fat.
As a general rule, if you can still see the seeds, it's a good carbohydrate.0 -
carbs are not but should not be eaten after lunch and should only be good healthy carbs in the form of fiber.
What happens after lunch? Does my metabolism slow down?
Your metabolism doesn't slow down, there was some crazy diet fad a while go that said 'no carbs after ---pm' because generally, people aren't as active in the evening and so carbs would be stored as fat. It's no necessarily true, but you shouldn't overindulge in simple carbs right before bed (or any time for that matter)0 -
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carbs are not but should not be eaten after lunch and should only be good healthy carbs in the form of fiber.
What happens after lunch? Does my metabolism slow down?
Your metabolism doesn't slow down, there was some crazy diet fad a while go that said 'no carbs after ---pm' because generally, people aren't as active in the evening and so carbs would be stored as fat. It's no necessarily true, but you shouldn't overindulge in simple carbs right before bed (or any time for that matter)
Would you like to tell me how your body uses slow carbs differently to fast carbs?
Once ingested your body breaks ANY carbs down into blood glucose. If that blood glucose is not needed and you have eaten more calories than your body needs for energy it will store it as fat. If you haven't eaten enough, your body will use it for kinetic/digestion etc energy.0 -
was that directed at me or the guy asking about the metabolism slowing? I understand how carbs are absorbed and stored, i think my paragraph was unclear. I really should proof read, lol 0
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carbs are not but should not be eaten after lunch and should only be good healthy carbs in the form of fiber.
What happens after lunch? Does my metabolism slow down?
Your metabolism doesn't slow down, there was some crazy diet fad a while go that said 'no carbs after ---pm' because generally, people aren't as active in the evening and so carbs would be stored as fat. It's no necessarily true, but you shouldn't overindulge in simple carbs right before bed (or any time for that matter)
Would you like to tell me how your body uses slow carbs differently to fast carbs?
Once ingested your body breaks ANY carbs down into blood glucose. If that blood glucose is not needed and you have eaten more calories than your body needs for energy it will store it as fat. If you haven't eaten enough, your body will use it for kinetic/digestion etc energy.
Yes, this question. And how would fat storage differ in either scenario, surplus or deficit given the same amount of protein, fat and carbohydrate, the only difference being on simple carbs or complex carbs?0 -
was that directed at me or the guy asking about the metabolism slowing? I understand how carbs are absorbed and stored, i think my paragraph was unclear. I really should proof read, lol
Your paragraph read like carbs will be stored as fat later on? Or perhaps carbs are bad?
May be misunderstanding.
Carbs are fine as long as they fit your macros - you can't get fat underindulging (yes a made up word!) 0 -
carbs are not but should not be eaten after lunch and should only be good healthy carbs in the form of fiber.
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Makes absolutely no difference what time of day you eat food, including carbs. Calories in, calories out. Plain and simple.
I generally work on the 40:30:30 macros but often go over on my carbs, especially if I'm exercising. I also go way over every weekend as I hike up mountains and need those carbs (including sugar) to power me up those thousands of feet! I also have an emergency can of Coke at the bottom of my rucksack for emergencies - cheaper than energy gels and the caffeine and sugar give me a good boost after six hours of clambering over rocks and burning thousands of calories. I've tried baked sweet potatoes, bananas etc etc but nothing quite hits the spot like pure sugar!0 -
carbs are not but should not be eaten after lunch and should only be good healthy carbs in the form of fiber.
:noway:
Makes absolutely no difference what time of day you eat food, including carbs. Calories in, calories out. Plain and simple.
I generally work on the 40:30:30 macros but often go over on my carbs, especially if I'm exercising. I also go way over every weekend as I hike up mountains and need those carbs (including sugar) to power me up those thousands of feet! I also have an emergency can of Coke at the bottom of my rucksack for emergencies - cheaper than energy gels and the caffeine and sugar give me a good boost after six hours of clambering over rocks and burning thousands of calories. I've tried baked sweet potatoes, bananas etc etc but nothing quite hits the spot like pure sugar!
QFT0 -
Beer=Carbs
Beer is not evil, beer is wonderful
Therefore, carbs are not evil
Cheers :-)
I like you.
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I generally try to limit carbs because *in general* I believe that proteins and fats are more likely to be nutrient-dense foods. Also, I have a general minimum amount of protein and a minimum amount of fat I try to reach each day. I just fill in the rest with carbs (and more protein and more fat) but don't really have a carb minimum.
But no, I wouldn't exactly call them evil (assuming you've met your protein and fat minimums).0 -
I generally try to limit carbs because *in general* I believe that proteins and fats are more likely to be nutrient-dense foods. Also, I have a general minimum amount of protein and a minimum amount of fat I try to reach each day. I just fill in the rest with carbs (and more protein and more fat) but don't really have a carb minimum.
But no, I wouldn't exactly call them evil (assuming you've met your protein and fat minimums).
i get what you're saying, but veggies are pretty damn nutrient-dense0 -
No, but like jof I limit them. I'm not active enough to utilize them so I prefer 100 grams or so daily.0
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did I say "coach" or "ready" by mistake? conjure you up? What is it that you want to argue now?
what??0 -
Unfortunately, Ed, individuals vary greatly. There is a distinct difference between men and women. What works for normal or even obese males, will not necessarily work for obese females--especially females "past their primes" (which, by nature's standards is past 35 and the child-bearing years). There is NOT just a one-size-fits all solution---that is much too simplistic.
I'm sure several women "past their prime" are lol'ing at this statement0 -
Personally, I have had great success with weight loss just calorie in and calorie out. However, fat loss, I have done much better dropping all processed carbs and sugars. I still ate dairy, fruit and veggies, just gave up pasta, breads, cookies, candy, etc. I still gave myself a meal or two where I allowed carbs. I have a love for hibachi rice and pizza. I guess it is what works for you. For me, carbs spike my insulin, which drives fat and hunger.0
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1. Some people aren't iceman with their diets. Foods like pop-tarts are easy for us slackers to abuse.
I really wanted to address this point. It's not about being "icemen." It's about taking control of your choices and owning up to them. In all my previous diet attempts, I used to clear my house of anything carb-heavy. Bread, sweets, pretzels - they all had to go. I believed they were triggers and I couldn't have them in the house or I just HAD to eat the entire container.
You know what? The carbs didn't make me eat anything. I chose to keep eating. Blaming the pretzels because I refused to stop after one serving wasn't going to do me any good, unless I wanted to hide from foods I enjoyed for the rest of my life.
For me, mastering the mental part of dieting involved a lot of therapy. I've been an emotional and stress eater as long as I can remember. But I made the decision to get over it and stop blaming my problems on food. I'm still working on developing a healthy relationship with eating, but it's so much more empowering than blaming Pop Tarts for my overeating.
Agreed and good for you.0 -
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