Why is obesity considered deviant behavior?

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Orly? Tell me all of your disgusting habits. Let me shame you for them, then you can tell me how that makes you feel.


Shaming someone into losing weight will do nothing but destroy whatever little self esteem they have left.


Also, you're a peach if you truly believe that ridiculing and shaming someone into doing what *you* want them to do is the right way to go about life.


The high school mean girls club called. They want their tactics back.

Srs. The change in attitude toward smoking in the US *did* impact the number of smokers. If obese people weren't allowed to eat fast food inside, that would begin to gradually change the number of obese people.

Whether it's good or bad is debatable but the fact is that the demonization of smoking and smokers has had a HUGE impact on the number of smokers - it's taxed out the *kitten*, it's barred indoors, and all because it's grown to be considered "societally unacceptable".

I think it's completely reasonable that the obese be treated the same way. Overtaxed, marginalized, excluded, and treated as something less than a person - rude comments made freely toward them because our society just doesn't stand for it anymore.

It works.

No.

More information about smoking and its effects has caused people to stop smoking...cuz they were dying....so many quit...and many didn't.

Just like obese people who feel like they're dying will eventually make a choice to lose weight...or not. People need to make their choices and aholes pushing their opinions down their throats is NOT the way to do it.

Smoking outside was so that other families who don't smoke or have children don't have to inhale someone else's toxins.

An obese person eating outside? What on earth does that help to do? Having no smoking rules isn't infringing on your human rights. Telling you that you can't eat inside cuz you're fat is, IMO.

Yes, I don't think that obese people should be allowed to use the same water fountains as me.

It's simply outrageous.

Sorry, as much as I'd love to continue this conversation with you, I'd like to know your BMI. I'm sorry, I just have strict rules about who I can talk to. Thank you.

With love,
Burt

*lights up*

Orly? Tell me all of your disgusting habits. Let me shame you for them, then you can tell me how that makes you feel.


Shaming someone into losing weight will do nothing but destroy whatever little self esteem they have left.


Also, you're a peach if you truly believe that ridiculing and shaming someone into doing what *you* want them to do is the right way to go about life.


The high school mean girls club called. They want their tactics back.

Srs. The change in attitude toward smoking in the US *did* impact the number of smokers. If obese people weren't allowed to eat fast food inside, that would begin to gradually change the number of obese people.

Whether it's good or bad is debatable but the fact is that the demonization of smoking and smokers has had a HUGE impact on the number of smokers - it's taxed out the *kitten*, it's barred indoors, and all because it's grown to be considered "societally unacceptable".

I think it's completely reasonable that the obese be treated the same way. Overtaxed, marginalized, excluded, and treated as something less than a person - rude comments made freely toward them because our society just doesn't stand for it anymore.

It works.

Precisely.

And once we're done with that we can decide what other behaviors we don't like as a society and start to weed those out as well. Gum chewing can be annoying. So any time you walk past someone chewing gum feel free to make rude comments towards them. You're being helpful after all.

They came for the smokers and I said nothing, because I don't smoke
Then they came for the fatties and I said nothing, because I'm not fat
Then I realized with all the smokers and fat people gone life was a hell of a lot less fun.

*lights up*

Orly? Tell me all of your disgusting habits. Let me shame you for them, then you can tell me how that makes you feel.


Shaming someone into losing weight will do nothing but destroy whatever little self esteem they have left.


Also, you're a peach if you truly believe that ridiculing and shaming someone into doing what *you* want them to do is the right way to go about life.


The high school mean girls club called. They want their tactics back.

Srs. The change in attitude toward smoking in the US *did* impact the number of smokers. If obese people weren't allowed to eat fast food inside, that would begin to gradually change the number of obese people.

Whether it's good or bad is debatable but the fact is that the demonization of smoking and smokers has had a HUGE impact on the number of smokers - it's taxed out the *kitten*, it's barred indoors, and all because it's grown to be considered "societally unacceptable".

I think it's completely reasonable that the obese be treated the same way. Overtaxed, marginalized, excluded, and treated as something less than a person - rude comments made freely toward them because our society just doesn't stand for it anymore.

It works.

Not sure if srs. Totally hoping you're not.

my obesity was caused by two things

1. I was being to lazy and not wanting to get off my butt and get moving

2. I was eating way beyond my proper portions or not eating enough most days

It is us who needs to take responsibility for our own actions. not the government. we can choose to eat mcdonald's or not to.
one the times I go out like when my child has away games I pre plan ahead of time by checking out the lowest calorie options.

I chose to be obese and weigh 250 pounds by my own actions. just like I am choosing now to do something about it. I lost 75 pounds thus far in doing so.

^ This.

There is a difference between being diagnosed with a disease like cancer or having a mental illness - no one chooses those. Addiction can be characterized as a disease, but they are also the result of choices. Once someone crosses the line into addiction their actions are often beyond their control, fueled simply by the need to feed that addiction above anything else. I chose food as a coping mechanism, for comfort, for the love of food, to escape/ whatever. There are underlying issues as to why I did what I did, but I wasn't blind to the fact that eating what I ate would have me end up obese at 33 years old.

I think it would be helpful to have more educational programs for young people to learn about proper diet and nutrition - showing a pyramid and say eat this is not enough. I think it would be beneficial to also offer programs to low income families to show them that on a limited income they can have healthy and nutritious food. There are some places where I live that offer such programs through the food bank and social assistance, and I think it is a good start.

In for the inevitable tattoo and body art bashing which is sure to come.

Whether it's good or bad is debatable but the fact is that the demonization of smoking and smokers has had a HUGE impact on the number of smokers - it's taxed out the *kitten*, it's barred indoors, and all because it's grown to be considered "societally unacceptable".

I agree the taxes definitely reduced smoking because it is pretty expensive to smoke now, but socially unacceptable isn't a reason for the laws etc, its because it was killing those who don't smoke.. Obesity is just killing the person that is eating it.. that's why its a different beast than smoking is.

Except it is contributing greatly to rising health care costs for everyone. I am not saying I agree with any specific policy stated here, but it is true that obesity is one of the larger contributing factors to the health care problem we currently face in the US (meaning rapidly rising health care costs).

This is a support website. The original poster was asking why more isn't being done. Do you just go shooting down people's great ideas all day like some sort of great idea assassin?

All I'm saying is, the OP is looking for ideas to help control people's behavior. I'm offering solutions and all you're doing is being a wet blanket on my tickertape parade, so you can take this job and shove it.

lol except that it's not a great idea...I would imagine the OP was looking for ideas that actually make sense and may work.

I only shove things on Thursdays. Sorry.

Excellent. I will send you a PM tomorrow.

Excellent. I will send you a PM tomorrow.

lol

Excellent...I'll be watching my inbox tomorrow. You best not disappoint.

So basically obese people are choosing to engage in activities which quite literally could and will lead to their deaths?

Given that the overriding biological imperative is survival that theory seems distinctly like utter rubbish to me...

Yes, for most people it's a choice. They don't choose to be obese, they chose not to do something about it. And please note I said "most people" before you tell me about all the medical reasons someone might be obese.