BMR and TDEE Explained for Those Needing a Guide

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  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    no, sorry. my rmr is only 970. bmr just almost 1100.

    Still have that reversed.

    A test would have been for RMR - Resting.
    BMR - Basal or Basic, would be below that actually.

    So if the test said RMR is 970, your BMR is actually lower.

    If test said RMR is 1100, then BMR may indeed be 970, depending on BF%.

    And those values may be right on and expected for your real Lean Body Mass.

    Then again, they could be over.

    Then again, they could be much lower and suppressed.

    Figure anything outside 5-10% difference is not natural reasons.
  • tmbowen12
    tmbowen12 Posts: 175 Member
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  • ShirleyFed5
    ShirleyFed5 Posts: 35 Member
    Need to read and figure it out soon.
  • squatsandlipgloss
    squatsandlipgloss Posts: 595 Member
    Very clearly explained. Going to go 30% under my TDEE... This means going from 1,300-1,400 cals to 2,236... I'm so scared but I trust this theory!
  • OH my gosh this was the clearest explanation ! Now I get it!!
  • Annette_rose
    Annette_rose Posts: 427 Member
    Thank you for sharing this!!
  • bigphatcat
    bigphatcat Posts: 7,843 Member
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  • Mamafred
    Mamafred Posts: 196 Member
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  • Denjo060
    Denjo060 Posts: 1,008
    Im giong to read this later thanks
  • shenanigansmo
    shenanigansmo Posts: 119 Member
    Bumping to save for later :)
  • pagermain
    pagermain Posts: 33 Member
    bump:happy:
  • etoiles_argentees
    etoiles_argentees Posts: 2,827 Member
    no, sorry. my rmr is only 970. bmr just almost 1100.
    oops switch that around, resting is almost 1100. bmr was 970.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Very clearly explained. Going to go 30% under my TDEE... This means going from 1,300-1,400 cals to 2,236... I'm so scared but I trust this theory!

    30% isn't sliding you right under your BMR? And with exercise you'll be in almost the same boat you are right now?

    Don't shoot your body in the metabolism thinking it'll be better.
  • squatsandlipgloss
    squatsandlipgloss Posts: 595 Member
    Very clearly explained. Going to go 30% under my TDEE... This means going from 1,300-1,400 cals to 2,236... I'm so scared but I trust this theory!

    30% isn't sliding you right under your BMR? And with exercise you'll be in almost the same boat you are right now?

    Don't shoot your body in the metabolism thinking it'll be better.

    My BMR is 1,853... Multiplied it by 1.725 for Very Active (Insanity 6 times a week) is 3,196 and 70% of that is 2,237. Or do you reckon I should multiply it by 1.55 for Mod. Active (which would be a TDEE of 2,010)? Like I said I do Insanity, but the rest of the day is a lot of sitting, some walking (5 mi) when I have school, cleaning around the house, cooking, but mostly really just sitting down.
  • JenHorsmon
    JenHorsmon Posts: 112 Member
    Thanks for the amazing explaination!
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  • countdowntotarget
    countdowntotarget Posts: 108 Member
    thank you - scarey thought to have to eat more and going against everything that I have been living by since I was put on my first diet at 9 ......... but Im STILL dieting so obviously that isnt working !
  • Mamafred
    Mamafred Posts: 196 Member
    I "bumped" this yesterday and finally got a chance to read it today. THANK YOU!!!
  • Delolajo2
    Delolajo2 Posts: 7 Member
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  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Very clearly explained. Going to go 30% under my TDEE... This means going from 1,300-1,400 cals to 2,236... I'm so scared but I trust this theory!

    30% isn't sliding you right under your BMR? And with exercise you'll be in almost the same boat you are right now?

    Don't shoot your body in the metabolism thinking it'll be better.

    My BMR is 1,853... Multiplied it by 1.725 for Very Active (Insanity 6 times a week) is 3,196 and 70% of that is 2,237. Or do you reckon I should multiply it by 1.55 for Mod. Active (which would be a TDEE of 2,010)? Like I said I do Insanity, but the rest of the day is a lot of sitting, some walking (5 mi) when I have school, cleaning around the house, cooking, but mostly really just sitting down.

    How many HOURS, not days, are you exercising a week?
    I thought Insanity was a shorter program.
    You may be rounding up from one level, or down from another.

    So you think you burn more than 383 calories in your session, because for almost every day in a week you'd be under BMR by decent amount, likely making your exercise not nearly as useful as it could be. (2236-1853)
    So that is what your exercise is knocking off your calories purely for mechanical movement, forget desire to improve things.

    You exercise for body improvement, right? If you don't feed it, you won't get it.

    Diet is for weight loss, hopefully just fat loss unless you do it wrong.

    Which for you, 30% is wrong for sure. 20% with better TDEE estimate would be better.

    Or you the spreadsheet several have recommended to you to keep it simple.
  • ilenelynne
    ilenelynne Posts: 36 Member
    thank you
  • ShellRaymo
    ShellRaymo Posts: 13 Member
    Thank you :)
  • kmcosgrove115
    kmcosgrove115 Posts: 260 Member
    Agree with heybales - 20% under and a more accurate TDEE are needed. I learned from reading alot of posts that active exercise is really HARD and lengthy exercise almost all week - like serious weight training, lifting, etc. I think you would fall below that at moderate in my opinion based on what you describe and then less out the 20%.
  • squatsandlipgloss
    squatsandlipgloss Posts: 595 Member
    Very clearly explained. Going to go 30% under my TDEE... This means going from 1,300-1,400 cals to 2,236... I'm so scared but I trust this theory!

    30% isn't sliding you right under your BMR? And with exercise you'll be in almost the same boat you are right now?

    Don't shoot your body in the metabolism thinking it'll be better.

    My BMR is 1,853... Multiplied it by 1.725 for Very Active (Insanity 6 times a week) is 3,196 and 70% of that is 2,237. Or do you reckon I should multiply it by 1.55 for Mod. Active (which would be a TDEE of 2,010)? Like I said I do Insanity, but the rest of the day is a lot of sitting, some walking (5 mi) when I have school, cleaning around the house, cooking, but mostly really just sitting down.

    How many HOURS, not days, are you exercising a week?
    I thought Insanity was a shorter program.
    You may be rounding up from one level, or down from another.

    So you think you burn more than 383 calories in your session, because for almost every day in a week you'd be under BMR by decent amount, likely making your exercise not nearly as useful as it could be. (2236-1853)
    So that is what your exercise is knocking off your calories purely for mechanical movement, forget desire to improve things.

    You exercise for body improvement, right? If you don't feed it, you won't get it.

    Diet is for weight loss, hopefully just fat loss unless you do it wrong.

    Which for you, 30% is wrong for sure. 20% with better TDEE estimate would be better.

    Or you the spreadsheet several have recommended to you to keep it simple.

    Okay. Yeah Insanity workouts range from 45 mins to an hour. On the 45 minute ones I burn anywhere from 450 to 500 cals. The rest of the day I really don't do a whole lot at all, so I recalculated it to be moderate and subtracted 20% instead of 30%. Put me at 2,285. Going to try to work up to that now. Thanks for the help!
  • tartsul
    tartsul Posts: 298 Member
    that was a great, thorough, and very clear explanation! i've been doing a little research in this area myself and it was so nice to have it explained in a way that makes TOTAL SENSE. thank you!
  • Missyann68
    Missyann68 Posts: 36 Member
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  • TheNewStacie
    TheNewStacie Posts: 187 Member
    Fantastic information in here! So many people are worried about only eating 1200 calories, and then only eat those low calorie meals and snacks. Those are so un-filling and loaded with chemicals, that you then want to binge later on. Going to mess with the calculation when I get home and see what I come up with. Again thanks!
  • AngelDog1
    AngelDog1 Posts: 89
    Bump-Thanks!
  • reerazzle
    reerazzle Posts: 81 Member
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  • Zap77
    Zap77 Posts: 26
    OMG this is so helpful! thank you!!