90lb in 14 weeks with pics (hopefully!)

Sweeeeet BABY JESUS! 90 lbs in 14 weeks is incredible. I see that some say it is unhealthy and some say you can gain back if you lose to fast but I say you go boy. That is incredible, amazing and inspiring. As long as you feel good and are able to sustain it, then hey, how can I say it is not right for you. I wish you nothing but the best in your continued maintenance. WOW

Finally I would address my greatest detractor MB_positiF.

All I can say is that "haters are gonna hate"

How do you know what my future calorific intake requirement is going to be? Do you know what my body burns during waking and sleeping hours? Do you know what my future 1/2 marathon and marathon plans are? Do you know my current resting heart rate is less than 45? Do you know what my "actual BMR will be? NO! Yet you are sure I will need exactly 2600 calories when I reach my target.

My choice of method is down to certain race targets I have set myself and the need to take pressure off a arthritic knee. This morning I completed my second 5K. I have clocked up 13 mile of running this week. 3 months ago I was obese, my arthritic knee was playing up and I could hardly move. If I had chosen to follow your MANTRA I would probably be around 270 -280 lb now. I would have probably given up as most who come on here do. The rapid progress spurred me on and on.

Finally MB_ positif you will be "enraged"to learn that at my weigh in this morning I had lost another 6 lb and 1.5% body fat which is now at a level of 20.5% which is better than the 41.7% when I started.

I feel special because I got addressed specifically by the OP. No, I don't know what you BMR will be, but the 2600 calories that I threw out there was saying that the average person eats around 2,000 calories to maintain their weight. Then if you burn 600 calories a day DURING MAINTENANCE you will need to eat those or you will continue to LOSE WEIGHT, which is not the goal DURING MAINTENANCE.

SO WHAT if you were still 270 or 280 right now? You would still be well on your way to a healhty weight. I hate to break it to you sir, but you are going to have to MORE THAN DOUBLE your food intake during marathon training. See the calculator on this site: http://www.joybauer.com/photo-gallery/marathon.aspx For example, if you weigh 180 when you do your marathon training and training runs are in the range of 2 hours (some days will be more) you will need to be eating nearly 3,000 calories on those days just to fuel your body.

I am absolutely not even remotely enraged that your body fat percentage went down. What I hope that the average MFP member will understand from reading anything that I and the rest of the *kitten* that don't want to see people killing themselves is that YOUR results are not TYPICAL. I do not HATE that you have lost weight quickly and maintained muscle mass. I HATE that some other poor soul is going to try this that it does not work for.

I DO NOT believe that I am an EXPERT on weight loss. What I do believe is that people will read this and try this and it could be detrimental to their health. Kudos to you for doing this with doctor supervision. I personally was thin and fit my whole life. I gained weight when I was pregant with my son. A lot. Then I lost it all without trying. Then I gained it all back because my life was full of excuses for why I didn't have time to prepare healthy meals or exercise. It took me from Januray of 2011 to Januray 2012 to lose about 50 pounds. Then I spent more time lifting and less on Cardio and lost a couple more pounds, but lost major inches, went down 3 clothing sizes in about 7 months. THEN I became highly symptomatic with a brain disorder. I posted the link to my story on Page 2 of this thread. Anyhow, even while being terribly sick I still fought hard to maintain my weight. I was not going to let it ruin all of my hard work. And YES, it was hard work even though I averaged less than a pound a week for that year. From July 2012 through my surgery on February 18th of this year, I maintained my weight without any exercise.. I am up 6 pounds since surgery mainly because I spent about 3 weeks mostly in bed and I was on narcotics which have thoroughly screwed up my poop schedule.

You know why I could maintain my weight during the absoulte worst part of my life? Because I had made significant lifestyle changes. Do I have days where I eat 4 cookies like yesterday? Sure. Did I make it fit within my calorie goal for the day? Yes. For me personally, had I lost all of that weight in 3 months, I know I would have not had the tools to maintain my weight under my belt yet. So again, let me say, YOU have done well by accomplishing what you wanted, BUT your results are not typical and this method WOULD NOT be considered SAFE for all people. That is all. I am done here.

Well I seem to have created quite a debate by posting what I considered to be a reasonable post of success.

Thanks for all those messages of congratulations and encouragement from most posters. However to the weight loss stazi:

I will first say that this is MY way of doing it. I was being seen regularly by a doctor for months before I started and being treated for very high blood pressure. He continued to monitor my progress on a monthly basis and not once have I been told to stop or change what I am doing. He stopped my blood pressure medication 6 weeks into my regime as it was getting too low. It has been normal since.

I detect a lot of animosity from many "weight loss gurus" whose only qualifications seem to be to have lost some weight and whose obsession with adhering to the mantra of "the only way is 2lb per week" seems to cause them to go into a rage when someone like me pops along.

LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR I AM NOT STARVING MYSELF WHATEVER THESE PEOPLE THINK.

My loss rate is what it is because of the WORK I am putting in.

I can manage to do this on 1400 calories because like it or not my 1400 calories is made up of the most nutritious food one can find. I eat zero crap or processed food. I believe my 1400 is probably 50% more beneficial that most of the stuff I see on members open diaries. I model what I eat on much reading of athletes nutrient intake. This includes many freshly prepared green vegetable juices per week.

Yes I do also measure muscle mass and I am under no illusions that this regime will reduce this. But for now I will accept that. As of this morning only 11 lb of the loss of 96lb has been muscle mass.

Finally I would address my greatest detractor MB_positiF.

All I can say is that "haters are gonna hate"

How do you know what my future calorific intake requirement is going to be? Do you know what my body burns during waking and sleeping hours? Do you know what my future 1/2 marathon and marathon plans are? Do you know my current resting heart rate is less than 45? Do you know what my "actual BMR will be? NO! Yet you are sure I will need exactly 2600 calories when I reach my target.

My choice of method is down to certain race targets I have set myself and the need to take pressure off a arthritic knee. This morning I completed my second 5K. I have clocked up 13 mile of running this week. 3 months ago I was obese, my arthritic knee was playing up and I could hardly move. If I had chosen to follow your MANTRA I would probably be around 270 -280 lb now. I would have probably given up as most who come on here do. The rapid progress spurred me on and on.

Finally MB_ positif you will be "enraged"to learn that at my weigh in this morning I had lost another 6 lb and 1.5% body fat which is now at a level of 20.5% which is better than the 41.7% when I started.

Well I seem to have created quite a debate by posting what I considered to be a reasonable post of success.

Thanks for all those messages of congratulations and encouragement from most posters. However to the weight loss stazi:

I will first say that this is MY way of doing it. I was being seen regularly by a doctor for months before I started and being treated for very high blood pressure. He continued to monitor my progress on a monthly basis and not once have I been told to stop or change what I am doing. He stopped my blood pressure medication 6 weeks into my regime as it was getting too low. It has been normal since.

I detect a lot of animosity from many "weight loss gurus" whose only qualifications seem to be to have lost some weight and whose obsession with adhering to the mantra of "the only way is 2lb per week" seems to cause them to go into a rage when someone like me pops along.

LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR I AM NOT STARVING MYSELF WHATEVER THESE PEOPLE THINK.

My loss rate is what it is because of the WORK I am putting in.

I can manage to do this on 1400 calories because like it or not my 1400 calories is made up of the most nutritious food one can find. I eat zero crap or processed food. I believe my 1400 is probably 50% more beneficial that most of the stuff I see on members open diaries. I model what I eat on much reading of athletes nutrient intake. This includes many freshly prepared green vegetable juices per week.

Yes I do also measure muscle mass and I am under no illusions that this regime will reduce this. But for now I will accept that. As of this morning only 11 lb of the loss of 96lb has been muscle mass.

Finally I would address my greatest detractor MB_positiF.

All I can say is that "haters are gonna hate"

How do you know what my future calorific intake requirement is going to be? Do you know what my body burns during waking and sleeping hours? Do you know what my future 1/2 marathon and marathon plans are? Do you know my current resting heart rate is less than 45? Do you know what my "actual BMR will be? NO! Yet you are sure I will need exactly 2600 calories when I reach my target.

My choice of method is down to certain race targets I have set myself and the need to take pressure off a arthritic knee. This morning I completed my second 5K. I have clocked up 13 mile of running this week. 3 months ago I was obese, my arthritic knee was playing up and I could hardly move. If I had chosen to follow your MANTRA I would probably be around 270 -280 lb now. I would have probably given up as most who come on here do. The rapid progress spurred me on and on.

Finally MB_ positif you will be "enraged"to learn that at my weigh in this morning I had lost another 6 lb and 1.5% body fat which is now at a level of 20.5% which is better than the 41.7% when I started.

How is it possible to lose that much weight so fast and not have loose skin?

http://www.livestrong.com/article/120286-dangers-extreme-diets/

Finished with dinner, here is a link in regards to heart problems that are related to eating a VLCD, including those that are morbidly obese and can allegedly "survive" on a VLCD.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/56/1/230S.full.pdf (this one is very long...pages 1 and 2 have most of the necessary information, especially the second column on page 2)

We can all look up links.
You couldn't explain it yourself?
This leads me to believe that you makes claims without fully comprehending what you're asserting.

Sorry what? Giving a link is the best way to present some information as you can read the study yourself, not someones take on the study - which is often cherry picked.

Your comment leads me to believe that you can't be bothered to read the study and would rather have someone break it down for you :noway:

It basically says that if you are obese you could already have a heart issue that losing weight quickly on a VLCD could make worse instead of making better.

And a regular GP monitoring you isn't a guarantee of anything. I doubt he got more than his blood pressure checked and h weight checked. They have very little nutritional training in the UK, a slower weigh loss could have left his with all his LBM intact and unless he got a DEXA scan he actually doesn't know the amount of LBM he loss, it's just a guestimate. He also wouldn't have had an issue with excess skin.

This method is not safe or healthy in the long run and nobody should be following his example. Sorry but this thread is a perfect example of how not to lose weight healthily.

Has the OP divulged the results of his electrocardiogram or comprehensive metabolic panel?
We don't know, do we?

Oh and the ops diary is open - so you can see it is low in protein - one of the risk factors in the study.

However to the weight loss stazi:

LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR I AM NOT STARVING MYSELF WHATEVER THESE PEOPLE THINK.

I can manage to do this on 1400 calories because like it or not my 1400 calories is made up of the most nutritious food one can find. I eat zero crap or processed food. I believe my 1400 is probably 50% more beneficial that most of the stuff I see on members open diaries.

I model what I eat on much reading of athletes nutrient intake. This includes many freshly prepared green vegetable juices per week.

Yes I do also measure muscle mass and I am under no illusions that this regime will reduce this. But for now I will accept that. As of this morning only 11 lb of the loss of 96lb has been muscle mass.

How do you know what my future calorific intake requirement is going to be? Do you know what my body burns during waking and sleeping hours? Do you know what my future 1/2 marathon and marathon plans are? Do you know my current resting heart rate is less than 45? Do you know what my "actual BMR will be? NO! Yet you are sure I will need exactly 2600 calories when I reach my target.

My choice of method is down to certain race targets I have set myself and the need to take pressure off a arthritic knee. This morning I completed my second 5K. I have clocked up 13 mile of running this week. 3 months ago I was obese, my arthritic knee was playing up and I could hardly move. If I had chosen to follow your MANTRA I would probably be around 270 -280 lb now. I would have probably given up as most who come on here do. The rapid progress spurred me on and on.