Juicing VS eating Vegetables - THE REAL TRUTH!
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I still say the average person has trouble meeting their fiber needs. You have to be eating pretty healthy to do that. And I tend to think of those that go for the whole juicing thing as the types that are looking into fads rather than balanced diets to get healthy.0
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I still say the average person has trouble meeting their fiber needs. You have to be eating pretty healthy to do that. And I tend to think of those that go for the whole juicing thing as the types that are looking into fads rather than balanced diets to get healthy.
totally. the average american is absolutely not meeting their fiber needs, but then again the average american also isn't considering juicing in the first place, since you have to twist their arm to even eat a piece of broccoli in the first place.
EDIT: ah... just realized you're suggesting that americans on the SAD are trying juicing because they think it'll help them lose weight? I have no idea whether that's true or not... to me it seems like juicing is something that people who already pay a little more attention to their diets are more likely to do. i could be wrong though.0 -
There has been a lot of debate - juicing or eating veggies?
JUICING ALL THE WAY! Here is why: A big difference between juiced vegetables and whole vegetables is digestion. According to the Living and Raw Foods website, juicing removes the indigestible fiber that is present in vegetables. Much more of the nutrients are then absorbed by the body as compared to eating the whole vegetable.
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It explains various natural supplements, juicing recipes, benefits of certain foods, etc.
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What is your opinion? Do you prefer juicing or eating your veggies?!
Well, I sure wouldn't juice fruit (the dangers of fruit juice are just lately coming to light) but, if you have digestive issues with eating vegetables, it would likely not be bad to juice SOME of them. Vegetables were likely always meant to be lightly cooked as that renders the vegetable fiber much more digestible. Besides, you can get used to eating more vegetable fiber--it is good for you and fills you up. In addition fiber slows the digestive process, which is a good thing for optimizing nutrient absorption. In general, I'm not a fan of juicing because I think it is wise to eat as close to nature as possible--our surprisingly healthy hunter-gatherer ancestors didn't have juicers available to them. Scientists say that they were much healthier than we are (when they weren't getting eaten by animals or warring with neighboring tribes).0 -
Does blending (Magic bullet) have similar benefits to juicing? I personally hate eating certain veggies, but wouldn't mind drinking them down quickly.0
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Does blending (Magic bullet) have similar benefits to juicing? I personally hate eating certain veggies, but wouldn't mind drinking them down quickly.
Blending is actually better than juicing, because you can blend the whole fruit. You're not extracting parts of it.0 -
Why choose? Do both..I LOVE juicing, but I also love my whole veggies too! I like to juice my kale, celery, collards, parsley, ginger, and cucumber and sometimes carrots....but I like to eat spinach, broccoli, asparagus, lettuces tomatoes, onions and cabbage.0
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But am I losing out on anything by blending instead of eating a veggie? For example, is drinking a blended mix of broccoli, spinach, and an apple equal to eating each of those separately?
edit: common sense tells me they're the same but i'm never quite sure.0 -
But the indigestible fiber helps me poop. And I like to poop.
Me too. I also like to chew.
Teeth are good
Pooping, chewing and teeth FTW!0 -
But the indigestible fiber helps me poop. And I like to poop.
What SHE said! ^^^0 -
I can see the merits of juicing if you're really disgusted by vegetables and don't like eating them raw. But if you're choosing one over the other, eating whole vegetables is definitely the healthier choice. Fiber reduces risk for all kinds of chronic diseases. It actually binds these things called bile salts in your intestine, which you poop out. Then the body needs to make more to replace those that are lost, so guess what it converts to bile salts. Cholesterol. Good stuff!
Yup! :happy:0 -
I need the fibre, and I can't afford to buy veggies to eat AND juice, I don't **** gold!!0
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Here's what I've observed: the majority of juicers (in real life) have a tendency not to eat their meals a prefer to drink them. What about here?
There's a reason why we were born with teeth. And it wasn't so we could drink the juice of fruits and vegetables.
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This is actually a myth. The fiber can slow digestion/absorption, but it doesn't negate anything. The same amount of sugar is still absorbed into the system, the same amount of insulin is still needed to process it, etc.The fiber in fruit also negates many of the negitive effects of its sugar content.0 -
fiber is overrated tbh.
you really don't need more than 25-40g of fiber, and even if you juice, you should be able to reach those goals pretty easily if you - wait for it - don't juice ALL your fruits and veggies.
damn it... that silly m-word rearing its head again.
the word is moderation.
IN to find out more about these mythical people that magically consume 25-40 grams of fiber daily, before they eat fruits and veggies. Who are these Rabbit People, and which planets do they hail from?0 -
fiber is overrated tbh.
Don't you have digestive problems?
My father actually needs to eat significant volumes of extra fiber (bran with eggs? Yuck).0 -
This is actually a myth. The fiber can slow digestion/absorption, but it doesn't negate anything. The same amount of sugar is still absorbed into the system, the same amount of insulin is still needed to process it, etc.The fiber in fruit also negates many of the negitive effects of its sugar content.
It's not a myth. The same amount insulin is needed to process it, yes, but it is released at a much slower rate due to the fiber slowing digestion/absorption, which, in effect, basically prevents insulin spikes. Insulin spikes being the negative effects of sugar content. Endocrinology is cool.0 -
This is actually a myth. The fiber can slow digestion/absorption, but it doesn't negate anything. The same amount of sugar is still absorbed into the system, the same amount of insulin is still needed to process it, etc.The fiber in fruit also negates many of the negitive effects of its sugar content.
It's not a myth. The same amount insulin is needed to process it, yes, but it is released at a much slower rate due to the fiber slowing digestion/absorption, which, in effect, basically prevents insulin spikes. Insulin spikes being the negative effects of sugar content. Endocrinology is cool.
Oh, endocrinology. I love you
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:flowerforyou: the old juicing machines would spit out the pulp of the fruits or veggies! the new juicers don't separate the juice from the pulp! it just crushes the veggies & fruits so blended that you can't taste the pulp! i say if you don't like to eat fresh veggies, juicing is the way to go!0
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But the indigestible fiber helps me poop. And I like to poop.
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I personally love both. I am vegan and love to chew veggies, but then there are some I hate the taste of but love to drink! Take for instance Kale...who knows how to cook that? I prefer to juice it with other things and just drink it. Or beets....who the heck likes those? Just juice it! That's my 2 cents... I also like to poo :0)0
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Insulin spikes are not seen by everyone as a negative effect - bodybuilders often seek them out post-workout to aid in protein delivery.
This is actually a myth. The fiber can slow digestion/absorption, but it doesn't negate anything. The same amount of sugar is still absorbed into the system, the same amount of insulin is still needed to process it, etc.The fiber in fruit also negates many of the negitive effects of its sugar content.
It's not a myth. The same amount insulin is needed to process it, yes, but it is released at a much slower rate due to the fiber slowing digestion/absorption, which, in effect, basically prevents insulin spikes. Insulin spikes being the negative effects of sugar content. Endocrinology is cool.
Glucotoxicity is more of a concern. And for anyone with impaired glucose tolerance (which, unfortunately, is now a huge percentage of the population), their overall long-term glycemic control (best determined by their HbA1c test) will be the same regardless of if it was absorbed in 10 minutes or 3 hours.
Yes, endocrinology is cool - as is knowing how to apply it in all cases.0 -
Insulin spikes are not seen by everyone as a negative effect - bodybuilders often seek them out post-workout to aid in protein delivery.
This is actually a myth. The fiber can slow digestion/absorption, but it doesn't negate anything. The same amount of sugar is still absorbed into the system, the same amount of insulin is still needed to process it, etc.The fiber in fruit also negates many of the negitive effects of its sugar content.
It's not a myth. The same amount insulin is needed to process it, yes, but it is released at a much slower rate due to the fiber slowing digestion/absorption, which, in effect, basically prevents insulin spikes. Insulin spikes being the negative effects of sugar content. Endocrinology is cool.
Glucotoxicity is more of a concern. And for anyone with impaired glucose tolerance (which, unfortunately, is now a huge percentage of the populateion), their overall long-term glycemic control (best determined by their HbA1c test) will be the same regardless of if it was absorbed in 10 minutes or 3 hours.
Yes, endocrinology is cool - as is knowing how to apply it in all cases.
Fair enough. Diabetes runs in both of my families. I can only speak from what I know. And since I'm not an endocrinologist, nor will I ever be one, I doubt I will ever know how to apply it in all cases. But, you know, one can dream. Still, I like learning about it. So, thanks for the lesson
Also, negativity is inherently dependent upon context. Just sayin'0 -
I prefer real vegetables because well.... you need fiber. You know.0
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There's very little that's negative about spikes in insulin - they happen all the time, and are natural, even without carbohydrate ingestion. A good steak will cause an insulin spike.Fair enough. Diabetes runs in both of my families. I can only speak from what I know. And since I'm not an endocrinologist, nor will I ever be one, I doubt I will ever know how to apply it in all cases. But, you know, one can dream. Still, I like learning about it. So, thanks for the lesson
Also, negativity is inherently dependent upon context. Just sayin'
One principle of endocrinology is what's called "receptor down-regulation".
Basically, if concentrations of a hormone increase and become chronically high (not just spikes), then receptor numbers or function 'down-regulate' to maintain the status quo.
This is why it's hyperinsulinemia (chronically-elevated insulin levels) as opposed to post-prandial (after-meal) spikes that cause insulin-resistance.
... and .... BACK ON TOPIC ... Our family makes 'juice' with our Vitamix. Drop the fruit and/or veggie in the Vitamix blender, add some water (or whatever) and let it go to town. All the nutrients, all the pulp, all the flavor. Much better than juice, imo.0 -
Not everyone has a problem dropping a deuce.Yeah, because who needs fibre :huh:
You smoking gun "answer" says basically, there is no science saying it's bad or good. Your answer is about as neutral as it gets.and finally an answer to this question from the mayo clinic
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/juicing/AN02107
I would suggest op that you form your opinions through non biased websites. :noway:
Juicing can be a delicious and efficient supplementation to a decent diet. There is a lot of biased blather in both directions, but it's helping people get a lot of nutrients and anti-oxidants they wouldn't normally get.
People get so silly about the oddest things.
You're so funny - where did I say my link was a smoking gun? I just thought I'd give an opinion from a non biased source.
I think juicing has it's place as part of a balanced diet but it shouldn't be one or the other - sorry I was silly and didn't make that clearer. :huh:
Oh and you need fibre for more than just pooping.0 -
I used to juice my fruit and eat the pulp, it was really tastey especially carrot, ginger and apple.
The juice usually went to someone who wanted it.
I liked the pulp the best
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I have been juicing for years and it definitely gives you an energy boost especially when you are feeling unwell and have no appetite to eat fruit and veg. Recommend both!0
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From a scientific perspective (no bro science here, I'm a bioengineer), over the past several thousand years our bodies have evolved to consume veggies and fruits how we've been doing it the whole time...eating them. People in history had no reason to throw away the edible fiber when they were hungry. And our body slowly optimized itself to benefit from that. If we had only had access to juice in the past thousands of years, I'd say our bodies would have accommodated to best absorb the nutrients that way. We are VERY far from knowing all the body's mechanisms and adjustments it has made through changes (evolution), but I think it's safe to say juicing isn't some sort of scientific miracle. (Cooking vs cooking is a tougher debate imo.)0
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Doesnt make a difference ... if u want ultimate benefits juice but the difference is minute0
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I probably wouldn't drink fruit juice (even freshly juiced) because we try to avoid ingesting straight carbs (especially with all the fiber taken out...not good!) but some veggie juices are tasty and a little more nutritious.
My favorite "juice" is actually more of a smoothie--made with a ton of spinace or kale, an avocado, a couple fo grape tomatoes, a red pepper or two, jalapenos or salsa verde, and some plain, high-fat greek yogurt. A combination like that is a little more balanced than straight juice, and is a way to quickly down a ton of veggies. Plus it's very "food-like", taste-wise...and filling for more than 2 minutes.
We have friends who juice, like as a diet or a fast....they always lose a few pounds and then immediately regain it back when they resume eating their regular diet. That always seems silly. But juicing occasionally, or with some added fats or protein (I guess that'd be on the side, if you're using a juicer; it's not like you're gonna stick a steak in there, right?) seems fine.0
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