No, I'm not a feminist

Has anyone else noticed that in TV/movies there can be a "fat" man with a "normal" woman (I can't remember the name of the sitcom but it was a small brunette woman with a big guy), two "fat" people together (i.e. Mike and Molly), or two "normal" people together (every other show/movie ever made)? Something is missing... I guess media people don't think it's believable for a "normal" guy to be with a "fat" woman.

Just saying.

ive almost never seen a "normal" guy with a "fat" wife IRL.

Never heard of Jack Sprat? :laugh:


But seriously, my husband is normal weight, and I'm fat. (for now) But I do know several couples like this. It's true that men (in general) have an easier time staying at a healthy weight than women. It's fairly common in my social circles. But I will admit that for most, the marriage began with both spouses at a healthy weight and the women packed on the pounds slowly over a period of years. (like myself) When my husband and I were married, I was 10 pounds lighter than him. At my heaviest, I was about 110 pounds heavier. Now I'm just 46 pounds heavier. I have told him that we will be the same weight soon. :smokin:

Don't believe the TV Hype!
I see 'normal' men with 'fat' women in real life all the time.

^^This. I could think of a few dozen couples that I know in real life where the woman is overweight and the guy is either normal weight or skinny. I can think of one or two where the it's the reverse.

Also:

“As long as women’s natural body hair is called disgusting and inappropriate while men’s isn’t, I am a feminist.
As long as I can’t watch an episode of a popular sitcom without having to sit through multiple sexist comments or “jokes”, I am a feminist.
As long as women have to face the rational fear of being sexually assaulted every time they walk home past dark while men don’t, I am a feminist....
As long as misogyny exists in any country in this world, I am a feminist.
As long as women are being raped, then stoned to death or forced to marry their rapist, I am a feminist.
As long as companies promote men to manager when there are women who are equally as or better qualified, because they find that men look more authoritative, I am a feminist.
As long as women (her choice of clothes, her friendly nature, her weakness, her choice to drink alcohol) get blamed when men rape them, I am a feminist.
As long women’s opinions on online social networks are dismissed with phrases like “tits or gtfo”, “get back to the kitchen”, “are you pms’ing?”, I am a feminist.
As long as dressing like a woman is degrading for men and as long as men are insulted with phrases like “you throw like a woman, ”clearly implying that being like a woman is shameful, I am a feminist.
As long as both men are women are expected to work, but taking care of children and the household are still largely considered a woman’s job, I am a feminist.
As long as boys and girls are treated differently, expected to act differently, and surrounded by different toys and colours from the day they are born, I am a feminist.
As long as topless women aren’t allowed in public unless they’re on the cover of a men’s magazine, I am a feminist.
As long as women who have sex frequently are generally told they are “sluts,” “lacking self-respect,” and “lacking morals” by both men and women, while men who frequently have sex are “just being men” and it’s “natural for them,” I am a feminist.
As long as there are places where women have to pay more for health insurance than men, I am a feminist.
As long as men experience situations with equal gender representation as female-dominated, and don’t consider a group discussion equal unless there are significantly more men then women participants (as has been proven), I am a feminist.
As long as there are men who think it’s their wife or girlfriend’s duty to have sex with him whenever he wants, I am a feminist.
As long as the word feminism (“the movement aimed at equal rights for women”) has a negative connotation, I am a feminist.
As long as misogynist people exist, I am a feminist.”
-LE CHRYSANTHÉME: I am a Feminist.

Also:

“As long as women’s natural body hair is called disgusting and inappropriate while men’s isn’t, I am a feminist.
As long as I can’t watch an episode of a popular sitcom without having to sit through multiple sexist comments or “jokes”, I am a feminist.
As long as women have to face the rational fear of being sexually assaulted every time they walk home past dark while men don’t, I am a feminist....
As long as misogyny exists in any country in this world, I am a feminist.
As long as women are being raped, then stoned to death or forced to marry their rapist, I am a feminist.
As long as companies promote men to manager when there are women who are equally as or better qualified, because they find that men look more authoritative, I am a feminist.
As long as women (her choice of clothes, her friendly nature, her weakness, her choice to drink alcohol) get blamed when men rape them, I am a feminist.
As long women’s opinions on online social networks are dismissed with phrases like “tits or gtfo”, “get back to the kitchen”, “are you pms’ing?”, I am a feminist.
As long as dressing like a woman is degrading for men and as long as men are insulted with phrases like “you throw like a woman, ”clearly implying that being like a woman is shameful, I am a feminist.
As long as both men are women are expected to work, but taking care of children and the household are still largely considered a woman’s job, I am a feminist.
As long as boys and girls are treated differently, expected to act differently, and surrounded by different toys and colours from the day they are born, I am a feminist.
As long as topless women aren’t allowed in public unless they’re on the cover of a men’s magazine, I am a feminist.
As long as women who have sex frequently are generally told they are “sluts,” “lacking self-respect,” and “lacking morals” by both men and women, while men who frequently have sex are “just being men” and it’s “natural for them,” I am a feminist.
As long as there are places where women have to pay more for health insurance than men, I am a feminist.
As long as men experience situations with equal gender representation as female-dominated, and don’t consider a group discussion equal unless there are significantly more men then women participants (as has been proven), I am a feminist.
As long as there are men who think it’s their wife or girlfriend’s duty to have sex with him whenever he wants, I am a feminist.
As long as the word feminism (“the movement aimed at equal rights for women”) has a negative connotation, I am a feminist.
As long as misogynist people exist, I am a feminist.”
-LE CHRYSANTHÉME: I am a Feminist.

As long as a man will go to jail for hitting a woman in self defense, I am a feminist
As long as a man will lose his job for someone getting offended at a sex joke, I am a feminist
As long as a man has to pick up the slack for a woman staying home because of "cramps" to go shopping, I am a feminist.
As long as a man has to pay a cover to get in to a bar where he will pay for the woman's drinks anyway while she walks in for free, I am a feminist.
As long as women play head games and do not confront their issues head on, I am a feminist.

I fully support equal rights and treatment of women, but I do not support the lowering of standards for them. If you want equal treatment expect to be treated like I would treat any other man. If you don't like that then I will treat you with the "special" treatment that has been accepted.

Back in the late 90s or early 2000s, Days of Our Lives had an actress who was quite a bit overweight married to a very buff doctor. Her weight wasn't mentioned at all.



The only thing I find remotely uncomfortable about this is the admission that I watched Days of Our Lives in the late 90s or early 2000s.

:laugh: It's okay, I don't think that watching it did you any permanent damage.

Has anyone else noticed that in TV/movies there can be a "fat" man with a "normal" woman (I can't remember the name of the sitcom but it was a small brunette woman with a big guy), two "fat" people together (i.e. Mike and Molly), or two "normal" people together (every other show/movie ever made)? Something is missing... I guess media people don't think it's believable for a "normal" guy to be with a "fat" woman.

Just saying.

Watch Shallow Hal.
They end up together in the end.

True, but the movie is all about him accepting her even though she is fat (nevermind that he's pretty fat too). Her fatness is not presented as the norm with a completely unrelated storyline.

Also still extremely rare to see an interracial couple, unless it's all about the fact that they're interracial.

I guess couples are supposed to look related.

Meh, TV is crap.

Also:

“As long as women’s natural body hair is called disgusting and inappropriate while men’s isn’t, I am a feminist.
As long as I can’t watch an episode of a popular sitcom without having to sit through multiple sexist comments or “jokes”, I am a feminist.
As long as women have to face the rational fear of being sexually assaulted every time they walk home past dark while men don’t, I am a feminist....
As long as misogyny exists in any country in this world, I am a feminist.
As long as women are being raped, then stoned to death or forced to marry their rapist, I am a feminist.
As long as companies promote men to manager when there are women who are equally as or better qualified, because they find that men look more authoritative, I am a feminist.
As long as women (her choice of clothes, her friendly nature, her weakness, her choice to drink alcohol) get blamed when men rape them, I am a feminist.
As long women’s opinions on online social networks are dismissed with phrases like “tits or gtfo”, “get back to the kitchen”, “are you pms’ing?”, I am a feminist.
As long as dressing like a woman is degrading for men and as long as men are insulted with phrases like “you throw like a woman, ”clearly implying that being like a woman is shameful, I am a feminist.
As long as both men are women are expected to work, but taking care of children and the household are still largely considered a woman’s job, I am a feminist.
As long as boys and girls are treated differently, expected to act differently, and surrounded by different toys and colours from the day they are born, I am a feminist.
As long as topless women aren’t allowed in public unless they’re on the cover of a men’s magazine, I am a feminist.
As long as women who have sex frequently are generally told they are “sluts,” “lacking self-respect,” and “lacking morals” by both men and women, while men who frequently have sex are “just being men” and it’s “natural for them,” I am a feminist.
As long as there are places where women have to pay more for health insurance than men, I am a feminist.
As long as men experience situations with equal gender representation as female-dominated, and don’t consider a group discussion equal unless there are significantly more men then women participants (as has been proven), I am a feminist.
As long as there are men who think it’s their wife or girlfriend’s duty to have sex with him whenever he wants, I am a feminist.
As long as the word feminism (“the movement aimed at equal rights for women”) has a negative connotation, I am a feminist.
As long as misogynist people exist, I am a feminist.”
-LE CHRYSANTHÉME: I am a Feminist.

As long as a man will go to jail for hitting a woman in self defense, I am a feminist
As long as a man will lose his job for someone getting offended at a sex joke, I am a feminist
As long as a man has to pick up the slack for a woman staying home because of "cramps" to go shopping, I am a feminist.
As long as a man has to pay a cover to get in to a bar where he will pay for the woman's drinks anyway while she walks in for free, I am a feminist.
As long as women play head games and do not confront their issues head on, I am a feminist.

I fully support equal rights and treatment of women, but I do not support the lowering of standards for them. If you want equal treatment expect to be treated like I would treat any other man. If you don't like that then I will treat you with the "special" treatment that has been accepted.

Oh cry a little. I don't expect special treatment from you or anyone else.

Relax just having a little fun

Also:

“As long as women’s natural body hair is called disgusting and inappropriate while men’s isn’t, I am a feminist.
As long as I can’t watch an episode of a popular sitcom without having to sit through multiple sexist comments or “jokes”, I am a feminist.
As long as women have to face the rational fear of being sexually assaulted every time they walk home past dark while men don’t, I am a feminist....
As long as misogyny exists in any country in this world, I am a feminist.
As long as women are being raped, then stoned to death or forced to marry their rapist, I am a feminist.
As long as companies promote men to manager when there are women who are equally as or better qualified, because they find that men look more authoritative, I am a feminist.
As long as women (her choice of clothes, her friendly nature, her weakness, her choice to drink alcohol) get blamed when men rape them, I am a feminist.
As long women’s opinions on online social networks are dismissed with phrases like “tits or gtfo”, “get back to the kitchen”, “are you pms’ing?”, I am a feminist.
As long as dressing like a woman is degrading for men and as long as men are insulted with phrases like “you throw like a woman, ”clearly implying that being like a woman is shameful, I am a feminist.
As long as both men are women are expected to work, but taking care of children and the household are still largely considered a woman’s job, I am a feminist.
As long as boys and girls are treated differently, expected to act differently, and surrounded by different toys and colours from the day they are born, I am a feminist.
As long as topless women aren’t allowed in public unless they’re on the cover of a men’s magazine, I am a feminist.
As long as women who have sex frequently are generally told they are “sluts,” “lacking self-respect,” and “lacking morals” by both men and women, while men who frequently have sex are “just being men” and it’s “natural for them,” I am a feminist.
As long as there are places where women have to pay more for health insurance than men, I am a feminist.
As long as men experience situations with equal gender representation as female-dominated, and don’t consider a group discussion equal unless there are significantly more men then women participants (as has been proven), I am a feminist.
As long as there are men who think it’s their wife or girlfriend’s duty to have sex with him whenever he wants, I am a feminist.
As long as the word feminism (“the movement aimed at equal rights for women”) has a negative connotation, I am a feminist.
As long as misogynist people exist, I am a feminist.”
-LE CHRYSANTHÉME: I am a Feminist.

As long as a man will go to jail for hitting a woman in self defense, I am a feminist
As long as a man will lose his job for someone getting offended at a sex joke, I am a feminist
As long as a man has to pick up the slack for a woman staying home because of "cramps" to go shopping, I am a feminist.
As long as a man has to pay a cover to get in to a bar where he will pay for the woman's drinks anyway while she walks in for free, I am a feminist.
As long as women play head games and do not confront their issues head on, I am a feminist.

I fully support equal rights and treatment of women, but I do not support the lowering of standards for them. If you want equal treatment expect to be treated like I would treat any other man. If you don't like that then I will treat you with the "special" treatment that has been accepted.

Oh cry a little. I don't expect special treatment from you or anyone else.

Relax just having a little fun

Actually upon reviewing your previous post, at least one of them is actually a valid equality concern on the same level as the ones from the first quote.

“As long as women’s natural body hair is called disgusting and inappropriate while men’s isn’t, I am a feminist.

So do you want to grow out your underarm hair without ridicule or have guys shave theirs as well?

When I looked at your pictures, the one picture looked like you had a hairy armpit. Then I saw the other picture and realized it was a tattoo of an apple? Definitely a first for me.

“As long as women’s natural body hair is called disgusting and inappropriate while men’s isn’t, I am a feminist.

So do you want to grow out your underarm hair without ridicule or have guys shave theirs as well?

When I looked at your pictures, the one picture looked like you had a hairy armpit. Then I saw the other picture and realized it was a tattoo of an apple? Definitely a first for me.

I think the point is more like men and women can shave or not as they please without ridicule, or he/she can tattoo hairy places for that matter. Put another way I don't really care if you think I should shave or not.

Has anyone else noticed that in TV/movies there can be a "fat" man with a "normal" woman (I can't remember the name of the sitcom but it was a small brunette woman with a big guy), two "fat" people together (i.e. Mike and Molly), or two "normal" people together (every other show/movie ever made)? Something is missing... I guess media people don't think it's believable for a "normal" guy to be with a "fat" woman.

Just saying.

I'd take it a step further: gorgeous, thin, smart women, with fat, and seemingly dumb men seems to be the new norm. The days of Father Knows Best, Leave it to Beaver, The Brady Bunch, Eight is Enough... are over. Men are portrayed as lovable, chubby goofs in many shows now.

PS: I AM a feminist.

I have despised how a lot of men are portrayed in TV sitcoms. The most egregious depiction being Tim Allen in "Home Improvement."

I agree. In defense of men, not all men burn the house down when trying to cook, diaper the wrong end of a baby or spit and stammer when trying to talk to their young daughters. Men get a bad wrap in sitcoms as well.

I think sitcoms are stupid, in general. But I have to disagree about the Tim Allen character. I know *way* too many men that are "Tim Allen" to a tee. :laugh:

In general, the "average white guy" on TV and in movies is the default doofus because he's the one whose portrayal as less than smart, less than fit, or otherwise less than ideal is the least likely to draw the ire of any particular group. Portrayal of almost any other group - be it gender, ethnicity, sexuality, or what have you - in a less than flattering way often winds up with the producers/networks dealing with protests from those defending the honor of the group that was 'besmirched.' [/tangent]

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Why are you not a feminist? All females should be if they think of their sex as actually being human .That's what feminism is. recognizing females as equal humans as males.