Think before you post.

Your post, however...totally different and not like that at all, right?

I forgot to add:

People here are called rude and nasty by people who post bad information and get all offended when it gets pointed out . As is the case here.

The "rude and nasty" people on this site deserve a medal for the work they do. If it weren't for them you'd all be listening to Dr. Oz, spending a fortune on body wraps and wondering why you're still not losing any weight.

Facts can and are fabricated all the time. I should say, fabricated and manipulated.

I have no idea what's happening, but I feel like this thread needed me.

The title of this section is Motivation and Support. If you can't do that then please be quiet! No I did not read all this "information".

Here I go debating with you again, but....

While I agree that science is never absolutely certain, I personally feel more certain about putting my faith in a study that follows the scientific model and has been strenuously reviewed than in research that is not properly performed and is generally unexplained. Most of the research I see used on this site is not scientific and generally anecdotal at best.

The human body, for all intents and purposes, is designed to perform one way. As with any statistically motivated research, there is always instances that occur outside the confines of normal context. To better interpret the results of the research, these abnormalities are thrown out. That does not mean that what is not true for the minority is not true for the majority. Exceptions to the rule does not invalidate the rule.

Debate? I would never do such a thing!

Peer reviewed research certainly gives us the best evidence and I agree with a lot of what you say. The point I was making (perhaps rather badly) is how then that research gets filtered down to ordinary people like me and what constitutes "misinformation".

Someone comes up with a hypothesis and a study to test it. It is couched with numerous qualifiers (because scientists tend to be rather clever and know stating an idea to be definitively proven is rare.) This then gets reviewed by their peers to eliminate bias. Further studies then arise to refine the original hypothesis etc. It is an evolving process.

What we tend to find a lot on internet forums is people selectively quoting studies without giving a broad overview of what the preponderance of the evidence suggests or even understanding it. It is easy to select a number of studies to support just about any position or criticise solitary studies in isolation to discredit your opponent simply by looking at the limitations. That isn't about the truth more than it is about wanting to be seen to be right.

Take the endless steady state v HIIT debate. If you have been around a while it is quite funny to watch as recommendations of steady state grew from the issues previously raised by high intensity work. Then steady state became all the rage before now we go back to high intensity work being in favour.

The process can goes something like this:

Body of evidence suggests steady state is beneficial for health and body composition
Further studies show that excessive steady state has some issues and that high intensity work has some benefit
Commentators suggests monitoring steady state and introducing some HIIT
Internet commentators : reduce steady state and favour HIIT
Punters on the internet: HIIT good, steady state: bad
Uninformed poster: should I do cardio
Lots of posters: noooooo, it is bad for you
Other posters: but I heard it is ok for body composition. This article suggests...
Lots of posters: noooo, it makes your uterus fall out. It's science. Here are a couple of studies I found. Stop spreading misinformation you big fat liar...

Etc, etc. Admittedly there are some terrible articles out there but good debate will weed that out. Bad debate will polarise the arguments and make us even more confused. Sometimes calls of "its misinformation" does more harm than good. It's always darkest before the dawn. It's true I love cliches.

I would appreciate it if somebody would break down the contents of this thread into a catchy rap song please

how about I break it down for you in ebonics...

Bro was chillen and thought he found some bad a*s *kitten* to back up his *kitten*; so he posted it and was like damn yo dis da bomb and all you jive fools best done read it; fools done read that *kitten* and said naaaa bro you just posted a bunch of jive a*s *kitten* that ain't backed up by the facts jack! Now this fool got got his panties in a bunch and started complainin dat all dem other foolz hating on his *kitten*; other fools came back in and we ain't hatin on ya bro, it's just dat yo original **** ain't backed up by jack...

that about sums it up