Fat shaming in the media
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Well considering some of those radical right wings have used the exact same shaming techniques on abortion and homosexuality, I find it repulsive and it makes we want to get more fat and take a giant dump on all their stupid faces.
Well aren't you the epitome of progressive enlightenment?
So you'd say be nice to those flinging abuse at you?0 -
I am sure that awful things like this can motivate some people to start working out. I think that is an extremely low percentage however. I feel you catch more flies with honey rather than vinegar. People who shame probably have some other defect, mental or otherwise.
I agree with this sentiment.
Seeing fat shaming ads is not cool with me. Not at all. It creates a social environment where stuff like this happens on the daily:
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/23/pictures_of_people_who_mock_me/
If we really want to motivate people and put an end to obesity, I think it makes more sense to put out positive messages like images of people who have lost weight, and showing them being happy and doing something awesome. We see this in weight watchers ads, but why not in campaigns to end obesity and promote healthier lifestyles. Also doing things like requiring healthy options at restaurants and providing more outdoor activities or affordable gyms is a good way for the city/county/state to go.0 -
Well considering some of those radical right wings have used the exact same shaming techniques on abortion and homosexuality, I find it repulsive and it makes we want to get more fat and take a giant dump on all their stupid faces.
Well aren't you the epitome of progressive enlightenment?
So you'd say be nice to those flinging abuse at you?
That has been the "Golden Rule" for quiet a long time. If you choose to be bitter that is on you. I'm not going to delve into the politics of this ridiculous statement.0 -
You are right, it is up to me the victim to just take it and be silent. I should never fight back, shouldn't stand my ground because I'd be dropping to the other persons level how terrible.Well considering some of those radical right wings have used the exact same shaming techniques on abortion and homosexuality, I find it repulsive and it makes we want to get more fat and take a giant dump on all their stupid faces.
Well aren't you the epitome of progressive enlightenment?
So you'd say be nice to those flinging abuse at you?
That has been the "Golden Rule" for quiet a long time. If you choose to be bitter that is on you. I'm not going to delve into the politics of this ridiculous statement.
No. I will fight back, defend myself, protect myself. It is NOT up to the victim to be a better person just because it might offend the abuser. Thats not how it works. Thats not reality. I do not have to give a **** about the feelings of people out to hurt me.0 -
What I find it interesting is that this is done in favor of promoting the unhealthy body image and how requiring models to have a healthy body weight is controversial. So like I cant walk up to someone who is clearly underweight and suggest they eat a sandwich no one should come up to me or anyone and suggest they eat a salad. Case in point - mind your own effing business and stop making fun of people's weight; its more than a good joke it scars psychologically.
I say this as a former super obese person. I was fat shamed my whole life and really scarred by it, and not until I and I ALONE decided to do something about my weight did anything happen. And although I am glad I shed the weight and I will work my whole life to keep it off I WILL NEVER dare tell anyone what they should or shouldn't do regarding their eating habits and weight unless asked.0 -
You are right, it is up to me the victim to just take it and be silent. I should never fight back, shouldn't stand my ground because I'd be dropping to the other persons level how terrible.Well considering some of those radical right wings have used the exact same shaming techniques on abortion and homosexuality, I find it repulsive and it makes we want to get more fat and take a giant dump on all their stupid faces.
Well aren't you the epitome of progressive enlightenment?
So you'd say be nice to those flinging abuse at you?
That has been the "Golden Rule" for quiet a long time. If you choose to be bitter that is on you. I'm not going to delve into the politics of this ridiculous statement.
No. I will fight back, defend myself, protect myself. It is NOT up to the victim to be a better person just because it might offend the abuser. Thats not how it works. Thats not reality. I do not have to give a **** about the feelings of people out to hurt me.
Ooook......and I'll try to make sure I, as a right winger, don't upset you. Geez, how did this come up again? Are you talking politics or fat shaming?0 -
You are right, it is up to me the victim to just take it and be silent. I should never fight back, shouldn't stand my ground because I'd be dropping to the other persons level how terrible.Well considering some of those radical right wings have used the exact same shaming techniques on abortion and homosexuality, I find it repulsive and it makes we want to get more fat and take a giant dump on all their stupid faces.
Well aren't you the epitome of progressive enlightenment?
So you'd say be nice to those flinging abuse at you?
That has been the "Golden Rule" for quiet a long time. If you choose to be bitter that is on you. I'm not going to delve into the politics of this ridiculous statement.
No. I will fight back, defend myself, protect myself. It is NOT up to the victim to be a better person just because it might offend the abuser. Thats not how it works. Thats not reality. I do not have to give a **** about the feelings of people out to hurt me.
Hey I like this one!0 -
The Ashley Madison ad was every bit of awful. Just because you have a spouse who ended up getting larger doesn't justify having an affair - if you must have sex with someone else then by all means either "A" tell your spouse that you'd like an open relationship, or "B" just leave! Then again I'm not exactly sure what else I'd expect from such a terrible type of Company like Ashley Madison.
As far as fat shaming goes though...I don't think it's effective, and I am pretty sure it did not cause the "fat pride movement." Since when did people in general never treat fat people like lessor beings or use them as the butt end of almost every joke for years? How well did that work out?
Maybe some fat people got sick of being crapped on constantly and wanted to "seize the moment" and try to find some sort of acceptance. How hard is that to relate to? Can you blame them? Fat people are constantly being berated.
Medical conditions aside, I truly think that there are a lot of psychological issues involved with those who're obese. If given the choice, no one wants to be fat. There has to be a reason why some of these people can't seem to get on the right track.
True or not, I'm not sure - that's just my opinion.0 -
wow.....Oh and PETA can ****ing suck it as they wont support pitbull groups and they dont go against kill shelters.
Obviously you don't even understand PETA's mission. Try doing a little research.
PETA's mission is to kill animals. They euthanize 90% of the animals they take in. They don't even try to find them homes. Their vice president owns a cat, even though PETA is against owning pets and uses insulin, which is derived from animals, even though PETA is against that too.
Anyone with knowledge of google can find that info......0 -
I am going to assume you are not someone who flings abuse at other, I do not know you but I'm assuming this.
You are right, it is up to me the victim to just take it and be silent. I should never fight back, shouldn't stand my ground because I'd be dropping to the other persons level how terrible.Well considering some of those radical right wings have used the exact same shaming techniques on abortion and homosexuality, I find it repulsive and it makes we want to get more fat and take a giant dump on all their stupid faces.
Well aren't you the epitome of progressive enlightenment?
So you'd say be nice to those flinging abuse at you?
That has been the "Golden Rule" for quiet a long time. If you choose to be bitter that is on you. I'm not going to delve into the politics of this ridiculous statement.
No. I will fight back, defend myself, protect myself. It is NOT up to the victim to be a better person just because it might offend the abuser. Thats not how it works. Thats not reality. I do not have to give a **** about the feelings of people out to hurt me.
Ooook......and I'll try to make sure I, as a right winger, don't upset you. Geez, how did this come up again? Are you talking politics or fat shaming?
My response may startle you or seem aggressive but my point still stands, no matter what the area, if someone is rude, if someone is hurtful, if someone is abusive, it is not the victims responsibility to be nice.
I'm not talking politics I am talking tactics. No matter what side you stand on, your methods, your tactics are the selling point, if your tactics are to attack and shame then you can bet I won't think well on you.
No matter what your beliefs are does not matter as long as you do not step all over others as a way to enforce them.
If you step on me I will hit you.0 -
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You are right, it is up to me the victim to just take it and be silent. I should never fight back, shouldn't stand my ground because I'd be dropping to the other persons level how terrible.Well considering some of those radical right wings have used the exact same shaming techniques on abortion and homosexuality, I find it repulsive and it makes we want to get more fat and take a giant dump on all their stupid faces.
Well aren't you the epitome of progressive enlightenment?
So you'd say be nice to those flinging abuse at you?
That has been the "Golden Rule" for quiet a long time. If you choose to be bitter that is on you. I'm not going to delve into the politics of this ridiculous statement.
No. I will fight back, defend myself, protect myself. It is NOT up to the victim to be a better person just because it might offend the abuser. Thats not how it works. Thats not reality. I do not have to give a **** about the feelings of people out to hurt me.
You can always fill up on fat and poop on their faces... :laugh:
If that is how you stand up for yourself...please go friend that lovely lady, you should get along famously! :drinker:0 -
The Ashley Madison one makes me want to vomit my soul, but the entire premise of the site makes me lose hope in humanity, so big surprise. It's definitely the absolute worst. Let me break it down for you.
It says:
*Overweight women are not sexy.
*The thought of an overweight woman's sexuality is HILARIOUS.
*Anyone married to an overweight woman is unhappy.
*It's okay to cheat on your wife if she's overweight.
How can you say anyone offended by that is "too sensitive"?
The PETA "Save the whales" one is obscene not only because it's hurtful and somewhat misogynist, but also because it's a total crock. I had more difficulty with my weight eating vegan than any other way (mostly because you have to eat so many carbs to get enough protein without supplementing) and I'm not alone on that. Becoming a vegetarian or vegan does not give you a free pass to Thinsville PETA just likes to stir the pot and make animal activists look bad & crazy.
The one with children hurts my heart. I don't think I should have to explain why. The only words I have for you are "recipe for eating disorder" and "warped body image". I'm not saying every overweight kid who looks at the ad will be instantly anorexic. But the idea gets planted in their head somehow, and they're so young and impressionable...
Not too sensitive. I just don't want to live in a world where if I gain 50 lbs my husband is entitled to cheat and my children are taught that their worth and happiness is directly tied to their weight.0 -
Seriously... the one with the kids is not shaming, it is an attempt to get parents to lay off the Mickey D's and let the kids out to frolic at the play ground instead of vegging out in front of the TV. I think it's offensive that any attempt to to raise awareness is offensive. Personally, as a fat woman, I could not care less WHAT is in the media. I say shame away! (if that's really what is happening anyway, which I don't think it really is.) I think the bigger outrage should be sexually suggestive products, commercials etc... geared toward young people. That is much worse than any ad suggesting someone get healthy.
Oh, and that oatmeal thing was not offensive. I don't know what the big deal is about pointing out the better option. People should lighten up.0 -
The oatmeal one got me, not because it was offensive, but because of the reaction it received, the person who wrote that probably had in mind the people that have gained a few lbs, not a few hundred, over the winter, and merely pointed out that oatmeal is a healthier low cal alternative to something else.
While we all know that being fat is NOT healthy, hence why we are all here, the fact that everybody feels the need to protect the overweight is absurd. It's called fat logic, the same people that say we should put plus size models in magazines, the people that say everyone is "fat shaming" them, are the same people that sit there and "thin shame" the absolute crap out of the skinny population, protest that the underweight people in the magazines is not a healthy image to show the public, well people, neither is being fat, get the F over it, find the equal ground, and sit down, shut up.0 -
"Tired of being fat and ugly?... Just be ugly."
That gym billboard is awesome.0 -
I didn't see anything in these ads that were more offensive than anything I used to hear people saying about me in restaurants or other public places, their snickering little shaming remarks I was meant to overhear – which is to say the ads are offensive, but are simply another layer of judgement I endured when I was at my heaviest. I was shamed by comments, shamed by looks, shamed by the media, shamed by the seat belt extension on an airplane.
The thing was, though, the shaming never made me want to change – as negativity never begets anything but more negativity. I didn't change my life, I didn't lose nearly 100 pounds until, instead of loathing myself as everyone seemed to think I should, I learned to love myself and treat myself with the care and loving kindness with which we should all treat each other. Maybe if we did treat each other with kindness instead of contempt and condescension we could effect the change all the fat shaming presumes to incite.0 -
I am going to assume you are not someone who flings abuse at other, I do not know you but I'm assuming this.
You are right, it is up to me the victim to just take it and be silent. I should never fight back, shouldn't stand my ground because I'd be dropping to the other persons level how terrible.Well considering some of those radical right wings have used the exact same shaming techniques on abortion and homosexuality, I find it repulsive and it makes we want to get more fat and take a giant dump on all their stupid faces.
Well aren't you the epitome of progressive enlightenment?
So you'd say be nice to those flinging abuse at you?
That has been the "Golden Rule" for quiet a long time. If you choose to be bitter that is on you. I'm not going to delve into the politics of this ridiculous statement.
No. I will fight back, defend myself, protect myself. It is NOT up to the victim to be a better person just because it might offend the abuser. Thats not how it works. Thats not reality. I do not have to give a **** about the feelings of people out to hurt me.
Ooook......and I'll try to make sure I, as a right winger, don't upset you. Geez, how did this come up again? Are you talking politics or fat shaming?
My response may startle you or seem aggressive but my point still stands, no matter what the area, if someone is rude, if someone is hurtful, if someone is abusive, it is not the victims responsibility to be nice.
I'm not talking politics I am talking tactics. No matter what side you stand on, your methods, your tactics are the selling point, if your tactics are to attack and shame then you can bet I won't think well on you.
No matter what your beliefs are does not matter as long as you do not step all over others as a way to enforce them.
If you step on me I will hit you.
Different strokes for different folks. Some people really aren't worth my time arguing with.0 -
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Being gentle about it resulted in the fat pride movement, maybe this will help although I find it cruel.
Yeah, because bullying and being lousy and abusive to people has helped them get a healthy relationship with food and their bodies so far....
Wait, it hasn't.
Welcome to being part of the problem.
This!0 -
Someone got mad because a deli compared the calorie counts on a bowl of oatmeal to a bagel? I think whoever felt offended by a calorie comparison of two breakfast foods has issues.0
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To be honest, didn't find any of them offensive... People will ALWAYS find something to moan about!0
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I would venture to say, of the whole lot, the childhood obesity ad is the worst. The children's faces should NOT have been in the picture. It's tough enough going through a chunky phase, or being raised by chubby promoting parents, or taking medication that makes you heavy, not having access to Physical Education, yadda yadda... shouldn't be plastered on billbords for it, in my opinion.
As for the rest, I DO have a relatively decent sense of humor and try to let most things slide unless they're bordering on Harassment, but I'll admit Ashley Madison was offensive. That big woman was WORKING it and I bet money she gets plenty of action at that size, which says a lot about her confidence and femininity.0 -
The Ashley Madison one was bad. If you cheat because your partner is fat (or any other reason) then you need to leave.
I agree, Ashley Madison is disgusting!!
This is the only one I found offensive - because it is promoting publically a cheating site (not a just a "dating" site)0 -
People that want to be offended will always find a way.0
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In Japan we have a tax for overweight people..
If the media is your biggest problem just be glad you don't have to pay for it. :bigsmile:
Is that for real? How is the tax levied and by what measure is it determined?0 -
People that want to be offended will always find a way.
THAT OFFENDS ME!!!
How dare you reduce me to a knee jerk reaction without substance!!!!
The NERVE OF SOME PEOPLE!0 -
Fat shaming > Fat Acceptance
Your body is your responsibility and your business, and ONLY your responsibility and your business. Your friends and loved ones may be able to sway your opinion, but at the end of the day you make your own choices and that is YOUR right.
Sorry, going to disagree with this. I don't agree with fat shaming AT ALL, but the truth is the obesity epidemic doesn't only affect the obese. According to Forbes, obesity now costs Americans more in health care than smoking. It's a matter of public health.
From the article:
"The high cost of being significantly overweight manifests in a variety of ways, ranging from the increased insurance premiums we all pay to subsidize the added medical charges incurred by the obese to the surprisingly dramatic impact our collective pounds has on energy costs."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/04/30/obesity-now-costs-americans-more-in-healthcare-costs-than-smoking/0 -
I don't find them particularly offensive, but then again I'm not a person who takes offense easily.
The problem with fat hate is that it's not promoting health, which weight isn't the the largest factor in.
The only thing these ads are really encouraging is for a person to stay at home and stuff their face.0 -
I'm always frustrated to hear arguments like "Well, thin people get shamed too! So fat shaming is okay!"
Can we all just agree that shaming people into being healthy (no matter what their size) is mean and counterproductive? I don't know that all the ads in the link are shaming, but if we all just worried more about ourselves and what we are/aren't putting into our own bodies, and got some reasonable amount of exercise, and quit worrying about what everyone else is doing we'd be a lot happier. Health is not necessarily linked to size -- we all anecdotally know some very healthy but heavy people, and some very unhealthy thin people. Health is about doing good to your body. That's it.
It's not fun to be on the receiving end of shame, period. So let's all just focus on ourselves, and get over it.
(And if the media would stop being so sensationalist, that would help a whole lot too)0 -
I didn't see anything in these ads that were more offensive than anything I used to hear people saying about me in restaurants or other public places, their snickering little shaming remarks I was meant to overhear – which is to say the ads are offensive, but are simply another layer of judgement I endured when I was at my heaviest. I was shamed by comments, shamed by looks, shamed by the media, shamed by the seat belt extension on an airplane.
The thing was, though, the shaming never made me want to change – as negativity never begets anything but more negativity. I didn't change my life, I didn't lose nearly 100 pounds until, instead of loathing myself as everyone seemed to think I should, I learned to love myself and treat myself with the care and loving kindness with which we should all treat each other. Maybe if we did treat each other with kindness instead of contempt and condescension we could effect the change all the fat shaming presumes to incite.
This ^^^
I've never been able to lose weight until I started to feel like I was worth the effort. How about a billboard campaign:
"Why go to the gym?" "Because I'm worth it"
"Why spend my time cooking?" "Because I'm worth it"
"Why spend the money on fresh produce?" "Because I'm worth it"
I totally don't get the scale advertisement. Why would I rush to spend my money at a company that makes me choose between publicly displaying my weight or standing on my tired feet?0
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