T. Colin Campbell says 80-10-10 macros is healthiest diet!

That sounds like a terrible idea.

You're a graphic designer.
T. Colin Campbell is a biochemist, microbiologist, and world renowned nutritionist.
Does this still sound terrible, this idea?

Yes

The biggest load of crap I've read/heard today bar none. Then again neither look like they've ever stepped foot in a gym. It's like needing a haircut and getting a trim from someone who's blind; it just doesn't make sense - at the very least not for bodybuilding or strength training.

YOU STILL MIRIN BRAH???

he looks pretty damn good for a man of 65.

^^ That's what I think every time I see that picture.

Sounds like a "Whole" lot of crap to me. But to each their own.

I don't doubt it.

You again? Your credibility in anything science was killonged a while ago. You get so angry with dissenting opinions. YOu know your body releases stress hormones whenever you get mad and they can have a negative effect on your health. The internet might not be for you.

Edit: Aww, you did a quick edit.

Yeah we all can't be perfectionists like you. It's sweet you think you are having any negative effect on me. However, it's very sad that people who claim they want to lose extra weight they have, will come and fight/argue with people who don't have extra weight. Hmm

ROFL, you're calling me fat! This is the best day ever!

Your ticker does say you have a lot to lose don't pretend he called you fat

You missed his pre-edit but are you agreeing with him that just because someone has some weight to lose that they can't have an opinion on health and nutrition?

Of course every one can have an opinion on nutrition

Then I'm confused because that's what he was implying.

The biggest load of crap I've read/heard today bar none. Then again neither look like they've ever stepped foot in a gym. It's like needing a haircut and getting a trim from someone who's blind; it just doesn't make sense - at the very least not for bodybuilding or strength training.

YOU STILL MIRIN BRAH???

he looks pretty damn good for a man of 65.

Yeah, all I see is a 65 year old man who hasn't worked out a whole lot lately and yet still has a fairly decent amount of muscle mass. By comparison, Elton John is 66 and won't take his shirt off in public.

Doug Graham, author of the 80-10-10 Diet, is 60 and......... AND.....



Arnold might've been the man when Dolly Parton was at her sexual peak but right today he couldn't lift more, run faster, or sound more educated than Doug Graham. Do you want quick results or fruitful longevity?

The picture of Arnold is very old and may have been taken when he was having some acute health issues. Below is a link to him working out in 2013. I'd be willing to bet that TWO Doug Graham's couldn't lift what Arnold can, so let's don't get carried away. Regardless of what either of them can do a single person's results aren't remotely proof that any system is better than another. Surely that could be agreed upon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdh351Y7wxQ

Anyone who likes 80/10/10 is free to do it and those who don't are free not to.

That sounds like a terrible idea.

You're a graphic designer.
T. Colin Campbell is a biochemist, microbiologist, and world renowned nutritionist.
Does this still sound terrible, this idea?

Just because someone has credentials does not mean they are right. Science isn't a cult.

Exactly. There are people out there, in the same field, with the same amount of credentials and they disagree with each other.

^ This.

Macros are overrated. There I've said it. I'll run and hide now.

I've missed all the good threads today! Locked and gone. I put the book on order at the library, I am curious to see what he has to say. I cannot imagine *not* being a miserable fat hungry wreck on 80/10/10!

I don't think people would be hungry on 80/10/10...because real hunger is driven by total calories and not as much macros...and even if they were at first, I suspect that would diminish as they became accustomed to it.

That said, I also doubt this is ideal. It goes against my understanding of the role a sufficient amount of dietary fats plays in our health, especially for the endocrine system. I suspect the amount of protein would be inconsistent with my current goals as well..

I've missed all the good threads today! Locked and gone. I put the book on order at the library, I am curious to see what he has to say. I cannot imagine *not* being a miserable fat hungry wreck on 80/10/10!

I don't think people would be hungry on 80/10/10...because real hunger is driven by total calories and not as much macros...and even if they were at first, I suspect that would diminish as they became accustomed to it.

That said, I also doubt this is ideal. It goes against my understanding of the role a sufficient amount of dietary fats plays in our health, especially for the endocrine system. I suspect the amount of protein would be inconsistent with my current goals as well..

Think for a minute and imagine what type of carbs will allow protein and fat not to exceed 10% That's a lot, and I mean a ton of vegetables.....at my current 3000 calorie intake I would not have my face away from the salad bar, and my jaw would be sore from chewing all day.....and I get to compromise my lean body mass and at the same time compromise my test levels with fat being that low.......

Not to mention the wear and tear on your teeth with all that chewing... unless you became a juicer.

It also depends on your intake compared to your weight. For my weight, pre-pregnancy, my TDEE was high, so to get above the 0.8g/kg WHO recommendations I might still have a protein ratio in the teens. That little fat doesn't sound much fun though...