healthy cereals and skim milk are not good for you.
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Sorry people, I am no good at trolling. I just got sick of answering questions with legit answers.
Eat whatever you want that fits your macros that you are not allergic/intolerant to.
Or just eat dinosaurs and do crossfit :laugh:0 -
What do you mean by 'healthy' cereals? If they are cereals making health claims, such as 'good for your heart', 'lower cholesterol', 'contain 8 vitamins' etc then I would be wary. I'd rather go for oatmeal or muesli.
However, if you enjoy them and they fit in your macros then eat 'em.
You may also want to add more protein to your breakfast though as it will keep you fuller longer.0 -
Personally I have no idea why humans think it is healthy to drink a cows breast milk.
you shouldn't even be able to post on the threads if you don't net more than 200 calories.
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It's not that healthy cereals aren't good for you - it's more the case that all too often food (not just cereals either) that is marketed that way, is often one of the least healthiest choices on offer - generally because it's stacked full of sugar (to make up for less fat), additives, preservatives and all sorts of Frankencrap.
I always guffaw at Weight Watchers products - why buy a minute slice of cake that has no ingredient outside 'sugar' that your grandmother would recognise, when you could simply have a small slice of real cake made from basic ingredients.
As for skimmed milk - the reason it's generally stated that it's not the healthy choice out of milk on offer is because it's the highest in sugar. Get rid of the fat and you've got to replace it with something.
Having said all that; it doesn't matter whether you eat a bowl of porridge or a bowl of cocoa dusted craprocks as long as you're within your calorie goal. The only time it comes into play is if you're interested in not filling yourself with processed food and worry about the possible health risks that may come with ingesting lots of artificial additives and high sugar levels.0 -
Life without cheese would not be worth living... sorry.Personally I have no idea why humans think it is healthy to drink a cows breast milk.
yup...I agree...mind you never tasted cheese made out of human breast milk..anyone willing to a) donate and b) eat it?0 -
lol....me neither and sorry for all the troll-haters...but I just NEED this kind of amusement when I wake up in the morning...makes dieting feel GOOD!!!unhealthy people eat cereal and skim milk therefore you will be unhealthy if you do the same.
all grains and dairy are bad. This paleo book I read said if our ancestors didn't eat it then it is bad.
Our ancestors also didn't have beds, guess we shouldn't use those.. I suppose we should get rid of our clothes too.. And the water from taps? Oh hellz no, best we go gather some water from a dam.
Bahahaha!!!
Omg. I cant stop laughing0 -
Personally I have no idea why humans think it is healthy to drink a cows breast milk.
lol, lol, lol
human babies drink human breast milk and most love it! so cows milk shouldn't seem so strange.
it would be kind of weird to see a calf sucking on some ladies ta tas tho wouldn't it.
Aren't calves born with full teeth? If so, ouch!0 -
It's not that healthy cereals aren't good for you - it's more the case that all too often food (not just cereals either) that is marketed that way, is often one of the least healthiest choices on offer - generally because it's stacked full of sugar (to make up for less fat), additives, preservatives and all sorts of Frankencrap.
I always guffaw at Weight Watchers products - why buy a minute slice of cake that has no ingredient outside 'sugar' that your grandmother would recognise, when you could simply have a small slice of real cake made from basic ingredients.
As for skimmed milk - the reason it's generally stated that it's not the healthy choice out of milk on offer is because it's the highest in sugar. Get rid of the fat and you've got to replace it with something.
Having said all that; it doesn't matter whether you eat a bowl of porridge or a bowl of cocoa dusted craprocks as long as you're within your calorie goal. The only time it comes into play is if you're interested in not filling yourself with processed food and worry about the possible health risks that may come with ingesting lots of artificial additives and high sugar levels.
Best answer. If your only goal is to lose weight and you don't care about the crap foods/chemicals you are putting into your body, then just eat within your calorie goal (whole other ball game, btw) and you will lose weight. I happen to care about crazy stuff like the way foods are processed now and created in labs and animals pumped full of drugs, I could go on and on... To each their own.0 -
I agree with this. You can still lose weight and eat things that aren't really all that good for your body. As far as the milk discussion goes I agree cows milk is designed for baby cows however that doesn't mean it is completely void of nutritional value. And go raw if ya can!It's not that healthy cereals aren't good for you - it's more the case that all too often food (not just cereals either) that is marketed that way, is often one of the least healthiest choices on offer - generally because it's stacked full of sugar (to make up for less fat), additives, preservatives and all sorts of Frankencrap.
I always guffaw at Weight Watchers products - why buy a minute slice of cake that has no ingredient outside 'sugar' that your grandmother would recognise, when you could simply have a small slice of real cake made from basic ingredients.
As for skimmed milk - the reason it's generally stated that it's not the healthy choice out of milk on offer is because it's the highest in sugar. Get rid of the fat and you've got to replace it with something.
Having said all that; it doesn't matter whether you eat a bowl of porridge or a bowl of cocoa dusted craprocks as long as you're within your calorie goal. The only time it comes into play is if you're interested in not filling yourself with processed food and worry about the possible health risks that may come with ingesting lots of artificial additives and high sugar levels.
Best answer. If your only goal is to lose weight and you don't care about the crap foods/chemicals you are putting into your body, then just eat within your calorie goal (whole other ball game, btw) and you will lose weight. I happen to care about crazy stuff like the way foods are processed now and created in labs and animals pumped full of drugs, I could go on and on... To each their own.0 -
I eat cereals never had a problem. - I like having milk, never had a problem.
to be honest i do have swiss style muesli with no added sugar and it keeps me going until lunch. the raisins in it keep a nice hint of sweetness.0 -
Personally I have no idea why humans think it is healthy to drink a cows breast milk.
I'd assume it's similar to the same reasons why eating their meat is healthy.
Protein, vitamins...
I'm confused.
Oh and to stay on topic, you can eat anything if it's in your macros. From what I understand, skim milk is just watered down regular milk. Some diet foods are bad because they have a lot of chemicals, but the healthy cereals tend to have more fiber and less sugar. You just have to know what to shop for. And you will lose weight no matter what you eat (if you don't have other conditions) as long as it fits within your calorie goals.0 -
Life without cheese would not be worth living... sorry.Personally I have no idea why humans think it is healthy to drink a cows breast milk.
Mmmm, Cheese
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i like this pic...that being said i don't care what you eat, it's your body.
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I read that reading is bad for you then I instantly realized I was only looking at a picture of a book and realized I was safe.0
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I thoroughly enjoyed my 650 calorie breakfast this morning of home made fruit salad and then Muesli with (gasp!) 96% fat free milk. Doesn't sound so bad when you put it that way around.0
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As someone said. Portion control is key and try pick a basic muesli if you want healthier cereal.
There is some validity in the post in a way though.
Cereal is a processed food and is not natural to our system.
Milk is pasteurized which makes it basically like sugar water and removes much of the goodness.
That is the world we live in today though and in the grand Scheme of things cereal is healthy and a invaluable source of fibre.
You can however make it far better by buying raw milk online or from a farm, it is not pasteurized and has a far better nutritional profile, it also tastes better but it is expensive!0 -
Pointless thread.
Love it!!! ????0 -
It depends on the definition of "healthy". If "healthy" means low in sugar, fat, and tastes like cardboard I wouldn't consider it healthy because I'd be wasting stomach space eating it.
Skimmed milk has more fat removed than whole milk. Vitamins A, D, E and K are fat soluble, Calcium, B Vitamins, and Vitamin C are water soluble. I opted for skimmed milk last week because I wanted more calcium, usually I stick to semi-skimmed, I'll also sometimes have whole milk, depends on what I feel like.
As for the whole milk thing cropping up again, just type two random animals into Google, here are the highlights from http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/829974-cow-milk-alternatives thread:
* cats drink cows milk
* lion cub drinks dogs milk
* piglets drink tigers milk
* pig drinks dogs milk
* tiger cubs drink dogs milk0 -
Why is this thread still going?
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As opposed to what? Fungus, tree roots, mashed up seeds?0
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magic words are "read the ingredients".
Watch the movie "Hungry For a Change"0 -
It depends on the definition of "healthy". If "healthy" means low in sugar, fat, and tastes like cardboard I wouldn't consider it healthy because I'd be wasting stomach space eating it.
Skimmed milk has more fat removed than whole milk. Vitamins A, D, E and K are fat soluble, Calcium, B Vitamins, and Vitamin C are water soluble. I opted for skimmed milk last week because I wanted more calcium, usually I stick to semi-skimmed, I'll also sometimes have whole milk, depends on what I feel like.
As for the whole milk thing cropping up again, just type two random animals into Google, here are the highlights from http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/829974-cow-milk-alternatives thread:
* cats drink cows milk
* lion cub drinks dogs milk
* piglets drink tigers milk
None of those are processed like our regular milk is.
* pig drinks dogs milk
* tiger cubs drink dogs milk0 -
If you are really concerned about drinking cow's milk then switch to almond. I tried it and will never go back.0
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Make sure it isn't loaded with sugars or fake preservatives... I like eggs and meat for breakfast....
THIS. If you must have your cereal, buy a natural kind (NOT Kashi... they're full of crap despite what they advertise, as are most other "health" cereals) or make your own. I use almond milk with mine.0 -
Harvard is a bit bias when it comes to anything with saturated fat, cholesterol and animal products in general and if you look at their reconstituted food pyramid, there is no dairy. The only reason almond milk has any nutrition whatsoever is because it's added back in as supplements.
Unnatural would be a cow getting into the debate online with all you amazing creatures.Personally I have no idea why humans think it is healthy to drink a cows breast milk.
lol, lol, lol
human babies drink human breast milk and most love it! so cows milk shouldn't seem so strange.
Human milk is for human babies and cows milk is for cow babies, but your not a baby anymore are you?
Or a baby cow for that matter. I agree, it's unnatural.
it is unnatural, as in we are the only animals that drink another animals milk. weather its natural or not I don't really think is the point.
is it good for us?
well, the main reason that people say it is, is for calcium.... but heres what Harvard had to say on that.
"it’s also not clear that dairy products are really the best source of calcium for most people."
so for most people, dairy is not the best source. interesting.
source: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-and-milk/
ok so what about other nutrients.....
Almond Milk and Cow's Milk Compared
Compared to cow's milk, almond milk is the much healthier choice. Almond milk contains a wide variety of the vitamins and minerals that your body needs to function. Almond milk also contains high levels of antioxidants, so it can help prevent many types of cancer and slow the signs of aging. Almond milk is also great for those who can't drink cow's milk due to lactose intolerance, or a casein or gluten allergy; however, those with tree nut allergies should avoid almond milk because it could elicit a dangerous allergic reaction.
Whole cow's milk contains a lot more calories and fat than almond milk, making almond milk the better choice for those on a diet. Cow's milk also contains saturated fat and cholesterol; almond milk is free of both saturated fat and cholesterol, making it a healthier choice, especially for those with heart problems.
While cow's milk contains high levels of calcium, and is fortified with vitamins A and D to help you meet your daily requirements of these vitamins, almond milk contains high levels of a wide range of necessary vitamins and therefore has a higher nutritional value than cow's milk. The only thing that cow's milk has more of than almond milk is protein; cow's milk has eight grams of protein per serving while almond milk has only one gram per serving.
source: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-healthier-choice-almond-milk-vs-milk.html
so almond milk has a higher nutritional value, lower cals, is free of both saturated fat and cholesterol and only at the expense of lower protein.
so.... it would seem that it is not a very good source of calcium, its main draw card, and secondly inferior to other options due to less nutrients, and more bad fat/cholesterol.
I drink milk every day, but im not under the impression that its great for you. is it a little bit weird that we drink another animals milk, a little bit but meh, humans are weird.
im not knocking milk like "oh my god, that came from bovine titties... burn it with fire!", i drink it every day, but we should all think about what we eat, and be informed.
As an example of what I'd call a bias stance.While calcium and dairy can lower the risk of osteoporosis and colon cancer, high intake can increase the risk of prostate cancer and possibly ovarian cancer.
Plus, dairy products can be high in saturated fat as well as retinol (vitamin A), which at high levels can paradoxically weaken bones.
Good, non-dairy sources of calcium include collards, bok choy, fortified soy milk, baked beans, and supplements that contain both calcium and vitamin D (a better choice than taking calcium alone).
I just looked at the first choice, collards and compared with 2% milk. I cup of milk has 306 mg's of calcuim and 500IU of Vit A. 1 cup of collards has 52mg's of calcium and 2400IU of Vit A. If we match calcium intake we would need to consume 6 cups of collards which puts Vit A at 14,400IU. Were not even talking bioavailability of calcuim in plants. I guess they figure people will just take them on their word.0 -
It's official. I'm having a gargantuan bowl of cereal for lunch today, drowned in cow breast milk. MMMMMMMMM......0
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it would be kind of weird to see a calf sucking on some ladies ta tas tho wouldn't it.
Hmm, believe it or not but I have seen someone (who was drunk) attempt to breast feed a baby goat at the state fair.
She bent over the goat pen, popped it out (tube top) and dangled.
Don't think she thought it was a good idea anymore after the goat didn't get milk on the first suck and butted it.0 -
I eat healthy cereal; I've checked all the ingredients, it seems legit to me!
I have heard that full fat milk is actually better than skim because skim is more processed, and full fat helps you to feel fuller and absorb its fat-soluble vitamins better. I've been trying to transition to fattier milk, but even 2% is gross to me
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Human milk is for human babies and cows milk is for cow babies, but your not a baby anymore are you?
People who spend time snarking at other people over the lose/loose difference should also learn the your/you're difference, which is also taught in grade school.
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Human milk is for human babies and cows milk is for cow babies, but your not a baby anymore are you?
People who spend time snarking at other people over the lose/loose difference should also learn the your/you're difference, which is also taught in grade school.
wait, whut?
honestly, I don't get it.0
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