healthy cereals and skim milk are not good for you.

Human milk is for human babies and cows milk is for cow babies, but your not a baby anymore are you?

People who spend time snarking at other people over the lose/loose difference should also learn the your/you're difference, which is also taught in grade school.

wait, whut?

honestly, I don't get it.

These alterations have a big impact on how our diets affect us. When different foods were tested for their GI values at different times of the day, for example, researchers found that the same food eaten for lunch instead of breakfast induced a lower glucose response. This is why it may be particularly important to eat a protein-rich breakfast, like eggs, instead of high glycemic foods like white bread toast. Time of day has been found to have a larger effect on insulin responses in women than in men, though no one understands why.

There are some instances, however, where a food has a low glycemic value but a high insulin index value. This applies to dairy foods and to some highly palatable energy-dense "indulgence foods." Some foods (such as meat, fish, and eggs) that contain no carbohydrate, just protein and fat (and essentially have a GI value of zero), still stimulate significant rises in blood insulin.

At the present time, we don't know how to interpret this type of response (low glycemia, high insulinemia) for long-term health. It may be a good outcome because the rise in insulin has contributed to the low level of glycemia. On the other hand, it may be not-so-good, because the increased demand for insulin contributes to beta-cell "exhaustion" and the development of type 2 diabetes. Until studies are carried out to answer these types of questions, the glycemic index remains a proven tool for predicting the effects of food on health.

Personally I have no idea why humans think it is healthy to drink a cows breast milk.

Is there a human milk production facility that I haven't heard of? If not...

Personally I have no idea why humans think it is healthy to drink a cows breast milk.

Personally I have no idea why some people think it automatically is not.

Personally I have no idea why humans think it is healthy to drink a cows breast milk.

lol, lol, lol

human babies drink human breast milk and most love it! so cows milk shouldn't seem so strange.

Human milk is for human babies and cows milk is for cow babies, but your not a baby anymore are you?

Or a baby cow for that matter. I agree, it's unnatural.

Unnatural would be a cow getting into the debate online with all you amazing creatures.

it is unnatural, as in we are the only animals that drink another animals milk. weather its natural or not I don't really think is the point.

is it good for us?

well, the main reason that people say it is, is for calcium.... but heres what Harvard had to say on that.

"it’s also not clear that dairy products are really the best source of calcium for most people."

so for most people, dairy is not the best source. interesting.

source: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-and-milk/

ok so what about other nutrients.....

Almond Milk and Cow's Milk Compared

Compared to cow's milk, almond milk is the much healthier choice. Almond milk contains a wide variety of the vitamins and minerals that your body needs to function. Almond milk also contains high levels of antioxidants, so it can help prevent many types of cancer and slow the signs of aging. Almond milk is also great for those who can't drink cow's milk due to lactose intolerance, or a casein or gluten allergy; however, those with tree nut allergies should avoid almond milk because it could elicit a dangerous allergic reaction.

Whole cow's milk contains a lot more calories and fat than almond milk, making almond milk the better choice for those on a diet. Cow's milk also contains saturated fat and cholesterol; almond milk is free of both saturated fat and cholesterol, making it a healthier choice, especially for those with heart problems.

While cow's milk contains high levels of calcium, and is fortified with vitamins A and D to help you meet your daily requirements of these vitamins, almond milk contains high levels of a wide range of necessary vitamins and therefore has a higher nutritional value than cow's milk. The only thing that cow's milk has more of than almond milk is protein; cow's milk has eight grams of protein per serving while almond milk has only one gram per serving.

source: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-healthier-choice-almond-milk-vs-milk.html

so almond milk has a higher nutritional value, lower cals, is free of both saturated fat and cholesterol and only at the expense of lower protein.

so.... it would seem that it is not a very good source of calcium, its main draw card, and secondly inferior to other options due to less nutrients, and more bad fat/cholesterol.

I drink milk every day, but im not under the impression that its great for you. is it a little bit weird that we drink another animals milk, a little bit but meh, humans are weird.

im not knocking milk like "oh my god, that came from bovine titties... burn it with fire!", i drink it every day, but we should all think about what we eat, and be informed.

Harvard is a bit bias when it comes to anything with saturated fat, cholesterol and animal products in general and if you look at their reconstituted food pyramid, there is no dairy. The only reason almond milk has any nutrition whatsoever is because it's added back in as supplements.

As an example of what I'd call a bias stance.

While calcium and dairy can lower the risk of osteoporosis and colon cancer, high intake can increase the risk of prostate cancer and possibly ovarian cancer.

Plus, dairy products can be high in saturated fat as well as retinol (vitamin A), which at high levels can paradoxically weaken bones.

Good, non-dairy sources of calcium include collards, bok choy, fortified soy milk, baked beans, and supplements that contain both calcium and vitamin D (a better choice than taking calcium alone).

I just looked at the first choice, collards and compared with 2% milk. I cup of milk has 306 mg's of calcuim and 500IU of Vit A. 1 cup of collards has 52mg's of calcium and 2400IU of Vit A. If we match calcium intake we would need to consume 6 cups of collards which puts Vit A at 14,400IU. Were not even talking bioavailability of calcuim in plants. I guess they figure people will just take them on their word.

If you are really concerned about drinking cow's milk then switch to almond. I tried it and will never go back.

If you are really concerned about drinking cow's milk then switch to almond. I tried it and will never go back.

Almond milk should only be consumed by baby almonds.

Personally I have no idea why humans think it is healthy to drink a cows breast milk.

lol, lol, lol

human babies drink human breast milk and most love it! so cows milk shouldn't seem so strange.

Human milk is for human babies and cows milk is for cow babies, but your not a baby anymore are you?

Or a baby cow for that matter. I agree, it's unnatural.

Unnatural would be a cow getting into the debate online with all you amazing creatures.

it is unnatural, as in we are the only animals that drink another animals milk. weather its natural or not I don't really think is the point.

is it good for us?

well, the main reason that people say it is, is for calcium.... but heres what Harvard had to say on that.

"it’s also not clear that dairy products are really the best source of calcium for most people."

so for most people, dairy is not the best source. interesting.

source: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-and-milk/

ok so what about other nutrients.....

Almond Milk and Cow's Milk Compared

Compared to cow's milk, almond milk is the much healthier choice. Almond milk contains a wide variety of the vitamins and minerals that your body needs to function. Almond milk also contains high levels of antioxidants, so it can help prevent many types of cancer and slow the signs of aging. Almond milk is also great for those who can't drink cow's milk due to lactose intolerance, or a casein or gluten allergy; however, those with tree nut allergies should avoid almond milk because it could elicit a dangerous allergic reaction.

Whole cow's milk contains a lot more calories and fat than almond milk, making almond milk the better choice for those on a diet. Cow's milk also contains saturated fat and cholesterol; almond milk is free of both saturated fat and cholesterol, making it a healthier choice, especially for those with heart problems.

While cow's milk contains high levels of calcium, and is fortified with vitamins A and D to help you meet your daily requirements of these vitamins, almond milk contains high levels of a wide range of necessary vitamins and therefore has a higher nutritional value than cow's milk. The only thing that cow's milk has more of than almond milk is protein; cow's milk has eight grams of protein per serving while almond milk has only one gram per serving.

source: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-healthier-choice-almond-milk-vs-milk.html

so almond milk has a higher nutritional value, lower cals, is free of both saturated fat and cholesterol and only at the expense of lower protein.

so.... it would seem that it is not a very good source of calcium, its main draw card, and secondly inferior to other options due to less nutrients, and more bad fat/cholesterol.

I drink milk every day, but im not under the impression that its great for you. is it a little bit weird that we drink another animals milk, a little bit but meh, humans are weird.

im not knocking milk like "oh my god, that came from bovine titties... burn it with fire!", i drink it every day, but we should all think about what we eat, and be informed.

Harvard is a bit bias when it comes to anything with saturated fat, cholesterol and animal products in general and if you look at their reconstituted food pyramid, there is no dairy. The only reason almond milk has any nutrition whatsoever is because it's added back in as supplements.

As an example of what I'd call a bias stance.

While calcium and dairy can lower the risk of osteoporosis and colon cancer, high intake can increase the risk of prostate cancer and possibly ovarian cancer.

Plus, dairy products can be high in saturated fat as well as retinol (vitamin A), which at high levels can paradoxically weaken bones.

Good, non-dairy sources of calcium include collards, bok choy, fortified soy milk, baked beans, and supplements that contain both calcium and vitamin D (a better choice than taking calcium alone).

I just looked at the first choice, collards and compared with 2% milk. I cup of milk has 306 mg's of calcuim and 500IU of Vit A. 1 cup of collards has 52mg's of calcium and 2400IU of Vit A. If we match calcium intake we would need to consume 6 cups of collards which puts Vit A at 14,400IU. Were not even talking bioavailability of calcuim in plants. I guess they figure people will just take them on their word.

Seems like the National Osteoporosis Foundation does not have an issue with dairy.

http://www.nof.org/articles/10#CALCIUMSOURCES

Also, re the Vit A issue:

Per 100g: Almond milk has 19% of the RDA for calcium and full fat milk has 11% of the RDA for calcium. Also, Almond milk has 4% of Vit A per cup and full fat milk has 2% of the RDA per cup. How is Almond milk better again, when the Vit A in milk is apparently an issue?

High calories and fat? Pick skim milk then: 0% Vit A (unless fortified), 7% protein and 12% calcium. (Almond milk has 1% of the RDA for protein)

Seems like there is some contradiction going on - maybe that bias you noted.

ETA: posted to make the same point as you neanderthin, not as an argument (may look that way as I quoted you).

Personally I have no idea why humans think it is healthy to drink a cows breast milk.

Personally I have no idea why some people think it automatically is not.

Yyyyyep. Humans eat the muscle tissue, bee vomit, fungus, mold... And really, *milk* is the one you think is weird? Get over yourself.

In fact, your food diary shows you eat chicken eggs. If drinking milk isn't natural, how can you justify eating eggs?

If you REALLY stop and think about what a chicken egg is... *shudder* I just try to block it out..

porridge or oats for breakfast with some fruit and whatever milk.

PROBLEM SOLVED.

THREAD ENDS.

Personally I have no idea why humans think it is healthy to drink a cows breast milk.

Personally I have no idea why humans think it is healthy to drink a cows breast milk.

or even worse - mouldy cows breast milk - (blue cheese)
or a chickens fetus (eggs)
or a woolly creatures children (lamb)
or genetically enhanced/pesticide ridden/drought causing/bee killing crops (pretty much everything else we eat!!)

Doh!!! slowly starving to death now cos we can't eat anything!! .........:sad:

Probably have really cold toes too due to no shoes, cos if its gross to drink their milk, how much more gross is it to wear their skin!!??