eating healthy = lame and boring ....

"I don't think anyone really pays attention to ONLY calories. That's certainly not doing it right."

There are people who only pay attention to calories...


....whoops...kinda screwed up that quote thing

what exactly happens if you only watch calories?

how far out do your macros have to be for there to be a problem?

isn't is a whole *kitten* load more about what you are eating, rather than the category it fits in.

seems like your making a big deal out of something that only a very small group of people would have a problem with, aka their diet is totally devoid of nutrients.

so why does it matter that much?

First of all, I have not made a big deal about anything....
Secondly, having a surplus of certain categories can cause health issues. High blood pressure, clogged arteries, blood sugar level issues (diabetes), cholesterol issues..
And yes, it is about what you're eating. That's the point I'm trying to make..

so how much would your macros have to be out to have such issues?

and yah... you kinda did make a big deal out of it. lol.

um, no, I didn't. I only stated that it can cause issues. That was that. I agreed with the fact that you can have what you like as long as it fits into your macros/cals. I also said portion size is the key.

As to your question about how out of whack would the macros have to be... well I can't answer that question. I am by no means a doctor or nutritionist. All I said, (and you can read above to get the whole story in case you missed it..) was a person who eats nothing but fast food all day to meet their calorie goal is most likely an unhealthy person..

so in short, you don't really know anything about macros.

Hmm...you really do enjoy creating your own meaning out of things that other people say, don't you?

Are you really going to argue the fact that someone eating fast food all day, every day is healthy???

They absolutely can be, y es.

Please enlighten me on this.. seriously. I'd like to know why you say that.

There's a difference between losing weight and being healthy. Counting calories may result in weight loss, but if all or most of those calories are made up of "junk", then your body will most likely not be very healthy..

I'm glad you put "junk" in quotes, because it's sort of a meaningless term.

Isolated, individual foods are not "healthy" or "junky" or whatever. It's an overall diet, in its entirety, that is healthy or unhealthy. If you are feeding your body the nutrients it needs to thrive, in the proper amounts and with an appropriate caloric content, you are eating healthy. If you are either depriving your body of the nutrients it needs, or you are feeding it excessive calories, you are not eating healthy.

It's only boring if you don't know how to cook. Lol. Use the right spices for the right food and your healthy food will taste amaaaaazing. I'm just sayin'. I never get tired of the food I eat.

You just need a really good girlfriend or wife to cook you up some good food! Healthy food DOES NOT have to be boring!

Uh huh. What she said. :flowerforyou:

another volunteer to wait on me hand and foot?

Sorry, already have a man. :bigsmile: And if you'll excuse us, we're going to enjoy the absolutely epic apple pie I just pulled out of the oven. With ice cream. Yum.

good luck with the aortic stenosis in a few years if you are eating like that every night. Who said healthy has to be plain, maybe because you cannot cook or have no imagination? I had orange roughy sauteed in some organic butter, sun dried tomato sauce and fresh zuchinni slices sauteed with vidalia onion and parmesan and a baked sweet potato. Then I had fresh bleberries over angel food cake with some cream. And you had what? KFC?

No one can ever convince me that eating fast food everyday is healthy....