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  • Posts: 173 Member
    You have to have a mix of all cardio strength go hand in hand all the Les Mills classes combine cardio with strength every single class has parts that build muscle and get the ticker pumping ...
  • Posts: 779 Member
    I kinda zipped through the responses, and I've been writing this reply for a while, so I might be repeating someone, here.

    I think a good bit of it has to do with how being skinny / weighing as little as possible used to be treated as the holy grail of fitness and weight loss and that cardio was THE way to get there.

    Much of this is something of a counter movement arguing:
    1) Simply being skinny does not always mean you're in the healthiest condition you could be.
    2) Losing / watching your weight level is not as important as losing / watching your FAT levels (although they are often connected)
    3) Weight training, a discipline formerly stereotyped as the realm of bodybuilders and athletes, is still valuable for normal people looking to simply improve their overall health.
    4) Cardio does burn the most while you're exercising, but building muscle helps you when it comes to burning calories when you aren't exercising.

    In my case, I'm in the same camp as many others. I do both. I use resistance training to develop strength and help burn fat, and I use cardio training to keep my heart and lungs working in order so that they can supply the muscles with oxygen and nutrients they need to do their thing.
  • Posts: 17,299 Member
    It's just that the info we've gotten since the 80's was low cal low carb do cardio and light strength training. You spin your wheels and wonder why your bum isn't perky and you still have a bit of a skin hang under your arms. Not only with lifting did I lose 7 inches I got rid of cellulite when they used to claim you could only do that with cream that never worked.
    Lifting pulled my skin tight and yes got rid of cellulite,

    How did lifting "pull your skin tight" while you were losing inches? Are you saying lifting weights shrinks skin?
  • Posts: 143
    If I'm ever chased by a bear I would like to have the strength to throw a boulder at him--- and then run as fast and far as possible. Strength + Stamina + Speed = Beating the Bear!

    LOL. And after you knock him out with the boulder, you can do this!

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  • It irritates me a lot to see stuff like this. I work out. I do weights as well as traditional cardio. I'm not muscular and can't lift a lot and don't even WANT to look like those huge guys you see in the weights area. What I do want is to be fit and healthy overall. Lifting heavy things probably won't improve my stamina much. You don't even need to go to a gym at all. I do, but it's a way to make myself feel much more motivated about fitness and I put in tons more effort and can easily do a lot of varied exercises when I'm there.
  • Posts: 3,515 Member

    A body like that + quotes Shakespeare = :love:

    Let's get some good cardio in... and bring your weight belt! :wink:

    Lol!
  • Posts: 12,950 Member

    A friend of mine owns a gym outside Portland. She hired that woman to teach zumba classes at her studio a few years before her umm...other business picked up.

    No way. hahaha.
    Well, that is *one* way to lose a competitor.
  • Posts: 12,950 Member

    LOL. And after you knock him out with the boulder, you can do this!

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    When I went to college in SF, beating the bear meant something else entirely.
  • Posts: 53
    ohhhhhhhhhhh so if people are using weights to get 'stronger' and not 'bigger', that must be why i keep seeing endless photos of people posing in front of mirrors flexing their muscles...showing how 'STRONG' they are and clearly nothing to do with how BIG their muscles are.
    Enlightening!:tongue:
  • Posts: 1,757 Member
    I've noticed that too. I do cardio because I like it, but obviously both have their benefits.
    I'm a fan of doing what I like and what works for me and not worrying about what other people are doing or think I should be doing!
  • Posts: 1,757 Member
    I think people are more rejecting the hamsterwheels that are ellipticals and treadmills.
    I LOVE my elliptical, I think it provides a great workout. I get that it's boring to a lot of people, but that doesn't make it a hamster wheel, I can burn a decent amount of calories on mine and it gets my heart rate up faster than anything.
  • Posts: 1,606 Member
    I LOVE my elliptical, I think it provides a great workout. I get that it's boring to a lot of people, but that doesn't make it a hamster wheel, I can burn a decent amount of calories on mine and it gets my heart rate up faster than anything.


    What's wrong with hamster wheels?


    Now we are boycotting cute animals?
  • Posts: 5,789 Member
    ohhhhhhhhhhh so if people are using weights to get 'stronger' and not 'bigger', that must be why i keep seeing endless photos of people posing in front of mirrors flexing their muscles...showing how 'STRONG' they are and clearly nothing to do with how BIG their muscles are.
    Enlightening!:tongue:

    I know right.

    When I walked into football camp as a freshman in college I was 174, 33" waist, benched 225.

    When I walked out of camp as a senior I was 172, 31" waist, benched 285.

    Weird, but thanks for letting me know it was to take pictures.

    Some people do, some don't. Very FEW people lift weights to get bigger. It is extremely difficult to actually get noticeably bigger by lifting.
  • Posts: 53

    I know right.

    When I walked into football camp as a freshman in college I was 174, 33" waist, benched 225.

    When I walked out of camp as a senior I was 172, 31" waist, benched 285.

    Weird, but thanks for letting me know it was to take pictures.

    Some people do, some don't. Very FEW people lift weights to get bigger. It is extremely difficult to actually get noticeably bigger by lifting.

    So you don't take pics to show us how big your muscles are?
  • Posts: 2,455 Member

    So you don't take pics to show us how big your muscles are?

    So did you post that pic to show us how big your slice of the cake was? Or was it more about the fact that you had a nice piece of cake in your hand, and that it looked pretty damned good?
  • Posts: 1,606 Member

    So you don't take pics to show us how big your muscles are?

    This may be one of the most tedious lines of questioning I have ever read.

    People take pictures of their changing physique for any number of reasons, from inspiring themselves and others, to accountability, to showing bigger muscles, more definition from fat loss, getting attention from people, whatever. Why is this a problem? I want bigger muscles, less fat, more definition, I want to be stronger, I want to be able to do things with my bodyweight, I want to impress someone, I want to feel wanted, I want to inspire, to be inspired.


    I do resistance training. I do cardio. So what if I did one more than the other, or just one and not the other? So what if I advocate one over the other, and discuss why? Enjoy the exchange or get over it! Just please stop with the whining!
  • Posts: 29,136 Member
    in...for the runners vs lifters marathon!
  • Posts: 29,136 Member
    cardio is for the small minded...
  • Posts: 1,606 Member
    cardio is for the small minded...

    Small minds are for the cardio? Lol
  • Posts: 5,789 Member

    So you don't take pics to show us how big your muscles are?

    Nope, I don't think I'm that big, and I don't eat enough for them to "grow".
  • Posts: 146

    ^ This.

    The cardio bashing on this site has gotten a bit ridiculous, IMO.

    I also don't judge others by what exercises they choose to do. Unless it's washing the dishes, cooking, or vacuuming. Sorry, but that ain't exercise.

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    DAMN IT I DON'T REALLY BURN 1K CALORIES COOKING AND VAUUMING!
  • Posts: 1,093 Member

    So did you post that pic to show us how big your slice of the cake was? Or was it more about the fact that you had a nice piece of cake in your hand, and that it looked pretty damned good?
    Or maybe she can't decide between the cookie and the cake, so she's having both?
  • Posts: 238 Member
    I think it's about a happy medium and doing what works for the individual. I greatly believe there are many benefits to both. I lost all my weight through a calorie deficit and cardio, got into the weight thing late but it has made some great changes to my body. Recently started body weight exercises (YAYOG) and already seeing great results. Cardio has taken a back burner recently because of other commitment (I'm more focused on strength training right now) but I still walk the dog almost every day so that helps. I really want to add a run or kickboxing into my regime when my work shifts settle. I also love getting a good sweat on!

    Do what works for you, we all have different commitments, goals and abilities.
  • Posts: 29,136 Member

    Small minds are for the cardio? Lol

    correct, only genius level folks lift weights..this is a fact of history.
  • Posts: 4,537 Member

    So you don't take pics to show us how big your muscles are?

    Dear god, you're making my brain hurt.
  • Posts: 2,455 Member
    Or maybe she can't decide between the cookie and the cake, so she's having both?

    NO WAY!! You mean she doesn't have to choose between them?

    But... how will we all sit in judgment of her choice if she chooses both??

    She needs to get off the fence, come out in support of either cake or cookies, and tell anyone who would choose otherwise that they are small-minded. That'll sure show them!
  • Posts: 53
    They were both cakes. The one in my left hand was a scoooooone. I ate both for my birthday:happy:
    But clearly i should have taken a photo...of myself...in front of a mirror...with my t-shirt pulled up to show my 'strong' abs:tongue:

    Don't get het up, afterall, we are all allowed our opinions and mine was that i ASSUMED people like to get big muscles from lifting weights. Clearly you just want to be strong. I have learned from that...thank you :wink:
  • Posts: 5,789 Member
    They were both cakes. The one in my left hand was a scoooooone. I ate both for my birthday:happy:
    But clearly i should have taken a photo...of myself...in front of a mirror...with my t-shirt pulled up to show my 'strong' abs:tongue:

    Don't get het up, afterall, we are all allowed our opinions and mine was that i ASSUMED people like to get big muscles from lifting weights. Clearly you just want to be strong. I have learned from that...thank you :wink:

    It's kind of science you can't get big muscles from just "lifting weights", but whatever.
  • Posts: 17,299 Member

    correct, only genius level folks lift weights..this is a fact of history.

    A "fact of history". One must wonder how the first weights came into being, since obviously a small mind would have to dream them up.
  • Posts: 53
    so with that in mind, what benefits would i get from lifting weights without a special diet? Would it be more beneficial for me than the cycling and swimming that i do? Would it make me stronger without making my muscles bulk?

    I'm genuinely interested as i know resistance is important, but i wondered why weights may be needed or whether weights are needed or is it enough to be using water & cycling to create lean muscle?
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