does food realy make you fat
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How can you not think calories matter that much? They're ALL that matters, if we're talking purely in terms of body weight. I don't understand how people can't do simple math. The reason some people can eat a crap ton of food and not get fat is because they have a very different metabolic profile than someone who gains weight on far fewer calories. It may be related to their height, weight, age, sex, activity level, body fat %, hormone levels, or all of the above. The point is something is going on in that person's body that causes them to burn more calories than you do, so they get to eat more.
If you are burning 4500 calories per day and are only concerned about maintaining your weight (not losing body fat, not adding muscle, etc.), then sure, calories don't seem to matter that much because you can eat a lot of food without moving the scale. But someone who is only burning 2000 calories per day and is trying to lose weight? That person is acutely familiar with the fact that calories absolutely matter.
No they are NOT ALL that matters. Your body isn't some perfect engine - it's not that simple. There are things like hormones and genetics that can alter the CI<CO equation and skew results. Calories are important, but they aren't the ONLY variable in weight loss. I don't understand why people can't do simple biology.
Cals in > cals out = weight gain. Period.
Cals in is pretty straight forward.
Cals out is more complicated, and I think that's the ultimate point people here are "arguing". Yes, the basics are the basics - BMR, NEAT, exercise, etc. But things like hormones, health issues, etc also play a role in how nutrients are processed and ultimately burned or stored. But after everything is said and done, it's still part of the cals out side of the equation, no?
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No.
I have gained weight on 1200 calories before. And no, it's not because I'm lying or I cheated - it's because of my body's enormous hormonal reluctance to let go of fat. I might be in a minority but it's a growing one. Macro are just as important as calories because when I changed my macros I started to lose. So basic calorie counts do NOT dictate overall weightloss for some of us.0 -
How can you not think calories matter that much? They're ALL that matters, if we're talking purely in terms of body weight. I don't understand how people can't do simple math. The reason some people can eat a crap ton of food and not get fat is because they have a very different metabolic profile than someone who gains weight on far fewer calories. It may be related to their height, weight, age, sex, activity level, body fat %, hormone levels, or all of the above. The point is something is going on in that person's body that causes them to burn more calories than you do, so they get to eat more.
If you are burning 4500 calories per day and are only concerned about maintaining your weight (not losing body fat, not adding muscle, etc.), then sure, calories don't seem to matter that much because you can eat a lot of food without moving the scale. But someone who is only burning 2000 calories per day and is trying to lose weight? That person is acutely familiar with the fact that calories absolutely matter.
No they are NOT ALL that matters. Your body isn't some perfect engine - it's not that simple. There are things like hormones and genetics that can alter the CI<CO equation and skew results. Calories are important, but they aren't the ONLY variable in weight loss. I don't understand why people can't do simple biology.
Cals in > cals out = weight gain. Period.
Cals in is pretty straight forward.
Cals out is more complicated, and I think that's the ultimate point people here are "arguing". Yes, the basics are the basics - BMR, NEAT, exercise, etc. But things like hormones, health issues, etc also play a role in how nutrients are processed and ultimately burned or stored. But after everything is said and done, it's still part of the cals out side of the equation, no?
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No.
I have gained weight on 1200 calories before. And no, it's not because I'm lying or I cheated - it's because of my body's enormous hormonal reluctance to let go of fat. I might be in a minority but it's a growing one. Macro are just as important as calories because when I changed my macros I started to lose. So basic calorie counts do NOT dictate overall weightloss for some of us.
Can you expand on that? What does "enormous hormonal reluctance to let go of fat" mean? You gained on 1200 cals, but are losing now. Are you eating more, or just different macros?0 -
:laugh:my little sister eats junk food mostly,n she has the best body ever,she doesnt gain,she has been skiny since she was born.i wonder if food realy makes you fat n if so y do some people eat a lt bt dnt gain a thing.would love to hear others thoughts,thnx in advance
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No they are NOT ALL that matters. Your body isn't some perfect engine - it's not that simple. There are things like hormones and genetics that can alter the CI<CO equation and skew results. Calories are important, but they aren't the ONLY variable in weight loss. I don't understand why people can't do simple biology.
I'm pretty sure I acknowledge hormone levels and "genetic factors" like height, sex, etc., in my post. I'm sorry I didn't realize I was dealing with someone who can't read. Carry on.
Here, let me quote you:How can you not think calories matter that much? They're ALL that matters, if we're talking purely in terms of body weight. I don't understand how people can't do simple math.
All that matters, huh? I didn't realize I was dealing with someone who can't write.0 -
Everybody's different. Some people just have a faster metabolism. My brother and his girlfriend eat whatever they want and never gain an ounce. He's 5'9", 120 lbs, and his girlfriend is 5'3" and 94 lbs.0
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Yes, some people put on weight more easily than others. A lifetime of observation has shown me it is true and it is great to see science is finally catching up. Regardless of this, we are stuck with the cards we have been dealt. It is no use bemoaning the fact that some of us need to be a bit more careful than others - we just do! So THAT is why I am on MFP !0
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No they are NOT ALL that matters. Your body isn't some perfect engine - it's not that simple. There are things like hormones and genetics that can alter the CI<CO equation and skew results. Calories are important, but they aren't the ONLY variable in weight loss. I don't understand why people can't do simple biology.
I'm pretty sure I acknowledge hormone levels and "genetic factors" like height, sex, etc., in my post. I'm sorry I didn't realize I was dealing with someone who can't read. Carry on.
Here, let me quote you:How can you not think calories matter that much? They're ALL that matters, if we're talking purely in terms of body weight. I don't understand how people can't do simple math.
All that matters, huh? I didn't realize I was dealing with someone who can't write.
It is all that matters. Hormones and genes affect calorie expenditure. They are secondary factors. Calorie balance is literally all that matters.0 -
Yes, some people put on weight more easily than others. A lifetime of observation has shown me it is true and it is great to see science is finally catching up. Regardless of this, we are stuck with the cards we have been dealt. It is no use bemoaning the fact that some of us need to be a bit more careful than others - we just do! So THAT is why I am on MFP !
It's really not true actually. Some people put on more weight because they eat more or burn fewer calories.0 -
Everybody's different. Some people just have a faster metabolism. My brother and his girlfriend eat whatever they want and never gain an ounce. He's 5'9", 120 lbs, and his girlfriend is 5'3" and 94 lbs.
I absolutely guarantee you beyond any doubt whatsoever that your brother and his girlfriend either eat far fewer calories than you think, or burn far more than you think. Possibly both.
The amount that people eat when just left to themselves without thinking about calories varies enormously. Left to myself, I'd easy eat 3000-5000 calories a day. One of my friends who "eats whatever he wants and doesn't gain weight" consumes more like 1900-2200. I've actually observed and calculated this for several people. He eats almost nothing but junk food and fast food. He just doesn't eat nearly as much of it as I tend to.
Quantity matters. It matters a LOT. At a party with a bunch of snacks out, I'll eat Doritos and he will eat Doritos. But he'll just eat a few chips and be done with it. I'll eat half the bowl.
The bottom line is that "metabolism" just doesn't vary that much from person to person. What really DOES vary a great deal is energy expenditure, in the form of movement, and calorie intake.0 -
When I was around 19-21 I was in the best shape of my life (I had abs!!), and I lived off chocolate bars, hot dogs, cheese steaks and Chinese food. I just ate less total calories because I only ate when I was hungry and my portion sizes were tiny.
I gained weight when I was introduced to the joys of emotional eating, and was put in situations where I had to eat when I wasn't hungry.
I don't subsist largely on junk food anymore, but not because I think junk food will make me gain weight. Its just more efficient to get my calories from nutrient dense whole foods. I think keeping packaged/junk foods to 10-20% of your diet is a good guideline for people who prefer moderation over abstinence.0 -
Slightly off topic, but PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH!0
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If you continually eat more than you need then yes it will make you fat.
science.
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my little sister eats junk food mostly,n she has the best body ever,she doesnt gain,she has been skiny since she was born.i wonder if food realy makes you fat n if so y do some people eat a lt bt dnt gain a thing.would love to hear others thoughts,thnx in advance
I'd like to buy a vowel, Pat.
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Calories in versus calories out does matter. I always ate what I wanted and I was fat. It was obviously too much and my body told me that regularly by having stomach issues. My sisters did not always eat what they wanted and actually ate much less than me and were not fat. They ate very small amounts and sometimes skipped meals. It is calories in versus calories out most of the time. I am losing weight eating less food so there is an obvious connection between calories consumed and fatness for me. No one would be able to get healthier and thinner if this connection did not exist.0
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9 times out of 10 when you notice someone who eats junk and doesn't gain weight that person a) doesn't eat that much food b) moves around more than someone who is gaining or c) both. I've met a few people who eat mostly junk but get full quickly, don't eat very often, etc.
When I go to my brother's house he always has Reese's peanut butter cups, Oreos, Nutter Butters... sometimes all three, plus ice cream and regular soda. He doesn't gain weight because his job is active, he walks to places that are near his house, he's contantly fidgeting/pacing and he exercises.0 -
1. Metabolic rate varies between individuals, but anyone can gain weight by eating more or lose weight by eating less, it's just a matter of figuring out how much more or less.
2. How old is your sister? I think it's common that people can eat whatever when they're young and not get fat, but those bad habits catch up to them as they age. That happened to me!
3. Is it possible that she eats junk food, but small amounts and/or not so often? I think sometimes people will observe a skinny person eating something unhealthy and/or a large meal one time and assume they eat that way all the time when they really don't.
4. "I can't lose any weight ever because genetics" is b.s. Genetics *might* make it more challenging for you to lose weight, but you can.
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Everybody's different. Some people just have a faster metabolism. My brother and his girlfriend eat whatever they want and never gain an ounce. He's 5'9", 120 lbs, and his girlfriend is 5'3" and 94 lbs.
I absolutely guarantee you beyond any doubt whatsoever that your brother and his girlfriend either eat far fewer calories than you think, or burn far more than you think. Possibly both.
The amount that people eat when just left to themselves without thinking about calories varies enormously. Left to myself, I'd easy eat 3000-5000 calories a day. One of my friends who "eats whatever he wants and doesn't gain weight" consumes more like 1900-2200. I've actually observed and calculated this for several people. He eats almost nothing but junk food and fast food. He just doesn't eat nearly as much of it as I tend to.
Quantity matters. It matters a LOT. At a party with a bunch of snacks out, I'll eat Doritos and he will eat Doritos. But he'll just eat a few chips and be done with it. I'll eat half the bowl.
The bottom line is that "metabolism" just doesn't vary that much from person to person. What really DOES vary a great deal is energy expenditure, in the form of movement, and calorie intake.
I agree that thinner people are usually eating less food. I watched my sisters, cousins, mom and many other people who were thinner than me throughout my life and they ate so much less food than I did. They ate much smaller portions less often. I can put away a lot of food on a daily basis.0 -
1. Metabolic rate varies between individuals, but anyone can gain weight by eating more or lose weight by eating less, it's just a matter of figuring out how much more or less.
2. How old is your sister? I think it's common that people can eat whatever when they're young and not get fat, but those bad habits catch up to them as they age. That happened to me!
3. Is it possible that she eats junk food, but small amounts and/or not so often? I think sometimes people will observe a skinny person eating something unhealthy and/or a large meal one time and assume they eat that way all the time when they really don't.
4. "I can't lose any weight ever because genetics" is b.s. Genetics *might* make it more challenging for you to lose weight, but you can.
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Too much food + no activity = Fatness
This at least applies to me anyways. My husband is pretty lean and eats a ton of junk food, but then again his cholesterol is pretty horrible. Just because you are skinny, does not mean that you are healthy.0
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