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Look what fast food & ice cream have done to my cholesterol
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and I'll re-post this one since it was the best thing I read regarding this topic.
Why can some people eat fast food and never gain weight? Why can some people stay thin when all they do is go walking a few times/week and others have to hit the gym.
http://healthyliving.msn.com/diseases/heart-and-cardiovascular/can-you-be-thin-and-still-eat-junk-food-1
I also suggest watching the HBO series 'Weight of the Nation' that was really good and explained how someone who dieted has different daily calorie needs (less) than someone that has never dieted in the past. They showed two people: same age, same weight, both female. One that had NEVER dieted actually had higher calorie needs to maintain compared to the one that actually dieted in the past.
http://theweightofthenation.hbo.com/0 -
I swear clean eaters have to go full retard even in the face of empirical evidence.0
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Great job. I'm not sure your diet and exercise plan would work for everyone but thank you for showing that it CAN work for some.
His plan and execution are great for heavy people trying to lose weight. Just look at his diary instead of reading his headlines, and replace "a lot" with "some" on his food references. It's a very disciplined plan with good macros, accompanied by regular exercise.
I'm interested to see if he can tighten the abs up on the reported 4k+ sodium/day.0 -
I'm still stuck on waiting for the towel to drop.
Anyway..... You do look great and I'm glad you're able to eat what you want and still be healthy. I am not one of those people. I really wish I could eat out more often, but it just doesn't sit on me right. As with anything, there is a balance between "clean" foods and unclean foods. There isn't anything wrong with enjoying an ice cream when you want it....though not as many people are are as lucky as you are being able to eat it every day. Totally jealous.
There's no reason you couldn't eat ice cream every day, unless you'r diabetic or something. You weigh more than I do and you're about my age, so your BMR will be close to mine.0 -
You guys are just talking silly talk.
I microwave my lunch daily. Of course it is just food.
And obviously the OP does not know it all because he said it's illegal to use antibiotics when raising commercial chicken. And it's not.
Walking on the treadmill or the beach is still walking.
You can't log "made with love" but I'm guessing my takeout has more "love" than yours.
I don't care if it has more love (dumbest food requirement ever when discussing food on a nutrition/fitness site). I only care about if it tastes better or not. If yours tastes better (according to my taste preferences and not yours), then I'll eat it. If it doesn't, I'll stick to my evil, corporate, soulless food.
Oh and the microwave comment, I didn't say you said it wasn't food any longer. You said it wasn't cooked by the microwave while in fact, microwaves most certainly do cook food.
And I never mentioned the OP. I was responding to you and your bizarre claims alone.0 -
Please quit posting ridiculous lies in my success stories thread. At this point you are simply trolling and harassing.
Go start your own success story thread.
I'm not trolling. I'm only trying to help.
You're the one blowing things out of proportion. I just got a little up in your face about being so supportive of food produced by large corporations. If that's what you like, eat it. If your medical tests keep showing up well, eat it.0 -
I don't care if it has more love (dumbest food requirement ever when discussing food on a nutrition/fitness site). I only care about if it tastes better or not. If yours tastes better (according to my taste preferences and not yours), then I'll eat it. If it doesn't, I'll stick to my evil, corporate, soulless food.
Oh and the microwave comment, I didn't say you said it wasn't food any longer. You said it wasn't cooked by the microwave while in fact, microwaves most certainly do cook food.
And I never mentioned the OP. I was responding to you and your bizarre claims alone.
Don't name call or say that things I've written are DUMB. That's against forum rules.
Just having a friendly discussion.
I like my food made with love. If it's a 3rd generation family cooking food for strangers (in a family owned restaurant) I'm happy to support them. It's just an expression. I'm sorry that you think I'm dumb or that my words are dumb.
If I make something for my parents (who live really far away) you can bet your bottom it's made with love.
I'm sorry if you think the expression is "dumb".0 -
His plan and execution are great for heavy people trying to lose weight. Just look at his diary instead of reading his headlines, and replace "a lot" with "some" on his food references. It's a very disciplined plan with good macros, accompanied by regular exercise.
I'm interested to see if he can tighten the abs up on the reported 4k+ sodium/day.
The clean eating and new dieter crowd would consider ice cream every day "a lot." They would also consider fast food and IHOP 5+ times a week "a lot." I think, anyway.
You're on a crusade to argue against the way I describe my diet. My diary is open. Let other people decide for themselves whether fast food 5 times a week is "a lot" and whether ice cream 5-7 days a week is "a lot." We don't need you posting on every page that I don't eat "a lot" of fast food and ice cream.0 -
This is completely, absolutely, 100% wrong.
McNugget innards before they are dyed white:Did you know it's illegal to use antibiotics and hormones on chickens and pigs?
You didn’t mention cows, interesting….Literally the only ingredients in a McD's hamburger patty are ground beef, with salt and pepper added at the time of cooking.
Yes, ground beef with hormones and anti-biotics. Google CAFO.0 -
The clean eating and new dieter crowd would consider ice cream every day "a lot." They would also consider fast food and IHOP 5+ times a week "a lot." I think, anyway.
You're on a crusade to argue against the way I describe my diet. My diary is open. Let other people decide for themselves whether fast food 5 times a week is "a lot" and whether ice cream 5-7 days a week is "a lot." We don't need you posting on every page that I don't eat "a lot" of fast food and ice cream.
My brain hurts.
You said you eat fast food once per week in a response to me. Now you are saying it's 5x/week?
Make up your mind.0 -
No.
McNuggets are not made from that. I don't even think the stuff in that picture isn't even chicken. It looks like "pink slime," which is mechanically separated beef.
Please, leave your lies and misinformation and BS out of my success story thread.0 -
McNugget innards before they are dyed white:
You didn’t mention cows, interesting….
Yes, ground beef with hormones and anti-biotics. Google CAFO.
Finally someone with some common sense in this post. *bows* Thank you for posting.
We're not dissing the OP's choices. We're only putting the facts out there.
For those of you that watch Jamie Oliver's 'Food Revolution' he showed in one episode what goes into "nuggets". It was...actually a great episode.0 -
My brain hurts.
You said you eat fast food once per week in a response to me. Now you are saying it's 5x/week?
Make up your mind.
I never said that, ever. Please stop trolling my thread and harassing my success story.0 -
No.
McNuggets are not made from that. I don't even think the stuff in that picture isn't even chicken. It looks like "pink slime," which is mechanically separated beef.
Please, leave your lies and misinformation and BS out of my success story thread.
It's not lies and BS. It's a fact that 99% of Americans eat factory farmed meat.
And this, is Jamie Oliver explaining the joys of nuggets:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKSoiDtdi9s
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It's not lies and BS. It's a fact that 99% of Americans eat factory farmed meat.
And this, is Jamie Oliver explaining the joys of nuggets:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKSoiDtdi9s
McNuggets are not made from the substance in the picture. Full stop.
Please post in another thread.0 -
what is bad about ice cream anyway? I dont eat fast food cos I dont like it I cook all our family food from scratch cos I like to do that I dont get this clean eating thing anyway!0
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Don't name call or say that things I've written are DUMB. That's against forum rules.
Just having a friendly discussion.
I like my food made with love. If it's a 3rd generation family cooking food for strangers (in a family owned restaurant) I'm happy to support them. It's just an expression. I'm sorry that you think I'm dumb or that my words are dumb.
If I make something for my parents (who live really far away) you can bet your bottom it's made with love.
I'm sorry if you think the expression is "dumb".
Friendly discussion? I think you are bound and determined that everyone agree with YOU and that we see it YOUR way. Just stop already. We get it. You don't like fast food. Fine. Don't eat it. It doesn't make you superior to everyone else despite what you think.0 -
My brain hurts.
You said you eat fast food once per week in a response to me. Now you are saying it's 5x/week?
Make up your mind.
Posting again.
I'm feeling like we're in the Twilight Zone, OP.
Above you say: "My diary is open. Let other people decide for themselves whether fast food 5 times a week is "a lot" and whether ice cream 5-7 days a week is "a lot."
So does that mean you're eating fast food once per week as you told me, or "5 times per week" as you said above?
Again, just trying to clear this up.0 -
So does that mean you're eating fast food once per week as you told me
I never, ever told you that. This is a straight-up lie. Please quit posting lies in my thread. Thanks.0 -
Holy crap I want McNuggets now. Best chicken-like food out there, especially when smothered in sweet chili sauce.
Not. Even. Joking.0 -
I dont get why ppl are arguing the OP's diet...
I for one, think its awesome and inspiring. I could never live a life without the foods I love. With exercise and maybe a LITTLE moderation it's very much doable! I devoured a Double Double AND fries from In n Out yesterday. Still managed to keep under my daily calories/fat/sodium though. It was fantastic0 -
Friendly discussion? I think you are bound and determined that everyone agree with YOU and that we see it YOUR way. Just stop already. We get it. You don't like fast food. Fine. Don't eat it. It doesn't make you superior to everyone else despite what you think.
Not once did I pressure anyone on here to agree with me.
Not once did I say I don't like fast food.
Not once.
I do love fast food. I do love junk food. I don't know how many times I have to say it. When I'm traveling for work or on a road trip you can bet we try to get the most affordable "fast" food possible. Sometimes you have to get creative to avoid grabbing the first Burger King off the highway. Sometimes you have to whip out a Yelp app and find a little cafe or burger joint. Not once did I say it was wrong to buy fast food. There's types of fast food that are better than others--better made, better ingredients, made from scratch.
Sure, it's my idea of "better" but it's also common sense.
If you are stating that a burger from a chain (large multi national chain) tastes better than one from a small family place I'd have to say you had broken taste buds.0 -
The clean eating and new dieter crowd would consider ice cream every day "a lot." They would also consider fast food and IHOP 5+ times a week "a lot." I think, anyway.
You're on a crusade to argue against the way I describe my diet. My diary is open. Let other people decide for themselves whether fast food 5 times a week is "a lot" and whether ice cream 5-7 days a week is "a lot." We don't need you posting on every page that I don't eat "a lot" of fast food and ice cream.
I'm telling people to look at your diary. The way you describe your diet is misleading. You're picking up less than half your calories from the sort of things you continually brag about eating. You characterized less than a cup of ice cream as a "large bowl" in another thread today. You're providing info to a mixed group of people, many of whom chronically over-eat. There's a huge difference between what you do and what people getting fat would identify as "a lot" or "large".
If you were presenting the information responsibly, I wouldn't be posting.0 -
Arguing people are putting me off imagining jonny dropping that towel. Pls stahp kkthxbai.0
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I'm telling people to look at your diary. The way you describe your diet is misleading. You're picking up less than half your calories from the sort of things you continually brag about eating. You characterized less than a cup of ice cream as a "large bowl" in another thread today. You're providing info to a mixed group of people, many of whom chronically over-eat. There's a huge difference between what you do and what people getting fat would identify as "a lot" or "large".
If you were presenting the information responsibly, I wouldn't be posting.
Well it's an awfully good thing we have you to make sure everyone knows that eating fast food 5 times a week is not a lot.
Thanks for your service.0 -
I dont get why ppl are arguing the OP's diet...
I for one, think its awesome and inspiring. I could never live a life without the foods I love. With exercise and maybe a LITTLE moderation it's very much doable! I devoured a Double Double AND fries from In n Out yesterday. Still managed to keep under my daily calories/fat/sodium though. It was fantastic
Not arguing his diet. Just arguing that he's saying my responses are irrational and others are saying they are dumb. I would never argue his diet or anyone else's diet.
Just trying to defend myself.0 -
I'm telling people to look at your diary. The way you describe your diet is misleading. You're picking up less than half your calories from the sort of things you continually brag about eating. You characterized less than a cup of ice cream as a "large bowl" in another thread today. You're providing info to a mixed group of people, many of whom chronically over-eat. There's a huge difference between what you do and what people getting fat would identify as "a lot" or "large".
If you were presenting the information responsibly, I wouldn't be posting.
Thank you. That's what I was getting at.0 -
great!!! on very many levels...0
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Well it's an awfully good thing we have you to make sure everyone knows that eating fast food 5 times a week is not a lot.
Thanks for your service.
So is eating fast food 5x/week a lot or not? What is it you are saying?
I'm saying that's a lot of money per year if that's the case.0 -
Wtf... Ice cream night every night! Good job OP!0
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