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    • Posts: 85 Member
      Congratulations!! I have a long way to go, but it definitely confirms that it's doable by eating what I like, in moderation. I tried half a dozen new 'healthy' recipes the first week or two. Either my taste buds are just unique, or the people who made these up hadn't eaten anything that tastes good in a loooong time, but all I could think was that I was never going to lose any weight if I had to eat #### like that because I'd just flat out and DIE from hunger. I am trying to eat some healthier things. I am trying to get in a few more vegetables. But I've taken heart from your post, and the nutrition professor from Kansas State who lost 27 pounds in two months eating TWINKIES, and I'm subscribing to the cult of .... moderation.

      Again, congratulations and thanks for the success story!
    • Posts: 9,377 Member
      Awesome work, Jon. I am not kidding even a little bit when I say that you are the reason I took the "clean food" stick out of my *kitten* and started eating things I like.

      I love this! And I love this thread. Nice work, man! :bigsmile:
    • Posts: 16,356 Member
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      You actually accused me of posting mis information, lies, and speaking propaganda. None of that is true. I backed up my claims with as much evidence as I thought necessary.

      The "silly talk" comment was me, yet again, defending myself because someone said that they cannot log LOVE on MFP.

      I called you a strange person only after you said horrible mean things to me. I know defending myself is against forum rules, I also know that it's against forum rules to defend a friend on the forums.

      Let's just stop this. It's a waste of time.

      I never insulted you. I only defended myself. Which is against forum rules. You accused me of lying and spreading lies, which is also against forum rules.
      I didn't accuse you of those things. That would be a different poster. Sheesh.

      You didn't call me a strange person, you called the OP a strange person.

      I never insulted you either so you never needed to defend yourself against me. I never accused you of lying or spreading lies, I just said that your idea of love being an important ingredient in food was dumb. That is not against forum rules.

      brower47 (me) =/= OP Please look at the avatar before responding.
    • Posts: 3,357 Member
      Am I the only one who got down to the photo's and thought "Dang, abs!!!" and had to wipe the drool from her face?
    • Posts: 2,827 Member
      Fools! If one more person chooses to beat jonny down for doing well, I WILL follow you until you're gone.
      Jonny, I have crowns for you and your woman, will send soon.
    • Posts: 45 Member
      There was a story on NPR several months ago about a university professer that did a similar experiment. He ate a calorie controlled diet of twinkies, fast food, and the like. He ended up with the same results (weight loss, improved blood work, etc) and the take away was bottom line, it's calories vs calories out. He did add a caveat that he didn't have sufficient data to support what this type of diet would do to a body long term. But then again, no one does.

      IMHO, it just comes down to moderation like everything else. Do I think there might be some long term consequences if I ate a McDonalds for 3 meals a day, every day? Yeah, I do. But when I'm in a mood for a big mac, I'm going to have a big mac and not feel bad about it. I'll even have some "supposedly" all corn chicken nuggets... cause some times they're the only thing that will do ;)

      Oh, and don't even get me started on the "clean" eating thing. There's a difference between "clean" and "healthy". You can eat healty without it necessarily being "clean". If it works for you, great. But I'm not about to eat organic rabit stuff and put that much stress in my life. There's too much stuff going on in my life to worry about the circumstances of how my apple came into existence.
    • Posts: 2,819 Member
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      I didn't accuse you of those things. That would be a different poster. Sheesh.

      You didn't call me a strange person, you called the OP a strange person.

      I never insulted you either so you never needed to defend yourself against me. I never accused you of lying or spreading lies, I just said that your idea of love being an important ingredient in food was dumb. That is not against forum rules.

      brower47 (me) =/= OP Please look at the avatar before responding.

      Ugh. This whole post is a complete waste of time. :: rubs chicken nuggets all over body and blissfully falls asleep ::
    • Posts: 2,827 Member
      This thread IS in "success stories". Take your arguments elsewhere, or applaud what he has he has achieved... or say nothing.
    • Posts: 34,415 Member
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      so hypothetically she could eat mostly "paleo' and eat 1-2 servings of ice cream once in a while. Why would it matter to anyone that that's "not paleo".

      Oh, it matters (to some).

      It most certainly matters (to some).


      And in...

      ...to catch up on...

      GREAT GOOGLY MOOGLY!! How many pages?


      *sigh*


      Okay, fine, I'll do my best...

      ...but no promises.
    • Posts: 2,827 Member
      no promises jof? kiss!

      success thread here, people. You want to fight about food or nutrition, message me. ;)
    • Posts: 509 Member
      Just dancing through the thread...seeing most of the "yay, you keep kicking it" from people whose tickers show amazing success...and complainers who have less than a proven track record.

      Guess who I'm rooting for?


      Well, mostly the towel to fall down, but whatever.

      :)
    • Posts: 2,819 Member
      Just dancing through the thread...seeing most of the "yay, you keep kicking it" from people whose tickers show amazing success...and complainers who have less than a proven track record.

      Guess who I'm rooting for?


      Well, mostly the towel to fall down, but whatever.

      :)

      Don't judge by a current ticker. I lost 20 lbs using MFP in 2011. There's no way to show past tickers. No record of showing picking up a program and trying to lose more, or to maintain. There's some folks on here that have a 1lb or 2lb loss but actually their past ticker showed a huge loss.
    • Posts: 3,357 Member
      Just dancing through the thread...seeing most of the "yay, you keep kicking it" from people whose tickers show amazing success...and complainers who have less than a proven track record.

      Guess who I'm rooting for?


      Well, mostly the towel to fall down, but whatever.

      :)

      BAHAHAHA!!! Love that last comment.
    • Posts: 34,415 Member
      Hey, OP, save me the trouble of searching through your diary to check...

      ...but have you ever had The Melting Pot? It's a little pricey (for some) but a fairly awesome experience in my opinion.

      Anyhow, if not, it's worth trying at least once.
    • Posts: 1,998 Member
      Saw the doc yesterday for a physical and had a lipid panel done.

      My first cholesterol results were from 2006, which was a few months after I lost 45 pounds doing mainly cardio and very large calorie deficits. I had gone from 205 to 160 lbs.
      Total = 230
      LDL = 171
      HDL = 42
      HDL/total ratio = 5.75

      Had another panel done in 2008, after a couple years of more or less maintaining with relatively low levels of activity. I was 165 lbs then.
      Total = 204
      LDL = 141
      HDL = 46
      HDL/Total ratio = 4.43

      Again in 2011, which was about 8 months after I started lifting (just as I was starting my first bulk). I was 160 lbs here. I hurt my back a few months after this and took about 18 months off lifting to fully recover.
      Total = 213
      LDL = 140
      HDL = 59
      HDL/Total ratio: 3.62

      Today's results, which come after 5 months of lifting and going from 165 lbs to 148:
      Total = 188
      LDL = 104
      HDL = 68
      HDL/Total ratio: 2.69

      My triglycerides have always been pretty low.

      So those of you who have seen my posts (and ticker) know that I eat a lot of food that's not "clean." I go to McDonald's, Taco Bell, Subway, IHOP, etc, many times a week. I have ice cream almost every day. I eat a lot of frozen meals. Yet despite all this, my cholesterol has gone from pretty bad to ideal. Having a total cholesterol of 230 at 24 years old was not a good sign.

      There's no secret or magic to this. I lift weights, I find fun ways to be active outside [I never 'do cardio' and I hate running], and I hit appropriate macro goals. That's all there is to it. I haven't filled my diet with "health foods" or "clean" food, I haven't even remotely cut out processed food. I haven't avoided sugar; in fact, I eat a ton of it. I average over 60 grams a day, I think. I haven't cut my sodium to low levels; I average around 4000 mg a day (and my blood pressure yesterday was 108/62).

      I get 130+ grams of protein a day, 50+ grams of fat a day, 25+ grams of fiber a day, eat a few servings of veggies and fruits every day, and I exercise. That's it. This stuff isn't rocket science, and if your 'diet' forbids certain foods then you're doing it wrong (unless of course you have an actual medical condition such as celiac disease or hypertension).

      I'm going to post this picture again. I'm thin and have a spare tire, but I'm improving every day. Behold the power of eating foods you enjoy.

      Comparison-6-13_small.png

      Well you are young, I would like to know if your numbers are still good 30- years from now if you keep eating that way. And by the way, my numbers are better than yours (no meds) and I am old enough to be your mother.

      See what not visiting fast food places is doing for me?

      By the way: congratulations on your new lab results.
    • Posts: 10,161 Member
      Hey, OP, save me the trouble of searching through your diary to check...

      ...but have you ever had The Melting Pot? It's a little pricey (for some) but a fairly awesome experience in my opinion.

      Anyhow, if not, it's worth trying at least once.

      Love that place but haven't been there lately.
    • Posts: 128 Member
      Looking at your diary, seems like vast majority of calories is not from fast food nor ice cream. So this whole thing is moot. No **** you can lose weight if only 500 calories come from fast food. Your diet is not even close to dirty. Also your TDEE seems to be higher then average, which allows you to cheat more.

      Now if you want to do the tests again and do a 100% fast food junk diet and your cholesterol ends up lower, I would be quite impressed and convinced by your argument.
    • Posts: 399 Member

      Don't judge by a current ticker. I lost 20 lbs using MFP in 2011. There's no way to show past tickers. No record of showing picking up a program and trying to lose more, or to maintain. There's some folks on here that have a 1lb or 2lb loss but actually their past ticker showed a huge loss.

      I'm 961 days in.... current ticker.... been successfully maintaining for almost 18 months.... while eating so called "junk food" on occasion. The OP should be commended for his ability to balance food that tastes good to him with nutrition while achieving some pretty darned good results.

      And, BTW -- chains usually are owned by local franchises and employ local residents, not to mention are held to higher standards of safety and cleanliness. Take it from someone who lives in The Ocean State and has seen her share of the kitchens in "Mom & Pop" clam shacks and tourist-trap roadside diners. :wink:
    • Posts: 10,161 Member
      Looking at your diary, seems like vast majority of calories is not from fast food nor ice cream. So this whole thing is moot. No **** you can lose weight if only 500 calories come from fast food. Your diet is not even close to dirty. Also your TDEE seems to be higher then average, which allows you to cheat more.

      Now if you want to do the tests again and do a 100% fast food junk diet and your cholesterol ends up lower, I would be quite impressed and convinced by your argument.

      What argument, exactly?
    • Posts: 146 Member
      Just dancing through the thread...seeing most of the "yay, you keep kicking it" from people whose tickers show amazing success...and complainers who have less than a proven track record.

      Guess who I'm rooting for?


      Well, mostly the towel to fall down, but whatever.

      :)

      Yes. Precisely. Very well done sir!
    • Posts: 128 Member
      So those of you who have seen my posts (and ticker) know that I eat a lot of food that's not "clean." I go to McDonald's, Taco Bell, Subway, IHOP, etc, many times a week. I have ice cream almost every day. I eat a lot of frozen meals. Yet despite all this, my cholesterol has gone from pretty bad to ideal. Having a total cholesterol of 230 at 24 years old was not a good sign.


      In a nutshell you are trying to say you don't eat clean... even though your meal plan actually looks quite clean.

      You aren't eating dirty, not even close. Not 100% clean but enough that these results shouldn't surprise anyone.

      FYI: I eat Frozen Broccoli / Tysons Grilled - 15 times a week minimum. Makes life simple.
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      What argument, exactly?
    • Posts: 12,589 Member
      In for orthorexia
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