Why do some people feel the need to throw down a barbell?
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So the jist I am getting from this thread is generally you only drop a barbell in for example deadlift when you are working at around max weight and the object of the game is to drop it from around knee height or follow the bar down without resisting the weight as it goes? This makes sense.
Finish position of a deadlift would be closer to hip crease height...
...and then there's snatch...
...and jerk...
...and for safety reasons when it would be more dangerous not to bail.
But still, yes, "dropping" should still be a controlled/guided drop...(although at a certain weight, the barbell is going to rest very near where it lands).
(Fortunately for me, my current gym is entirely rubberized flooring w/ full bumper plates. Ironically, one of the more dangerous drops is w/ just a pair of tens on the bar because that thing can come to life and sprout legs if you drop it just right...or just wrong, I guess.)0 -
cuz they're heavy0
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Thank you. This is what puts me off going to the gyms in my neighbourhood - all fancy mirrors, carpeting and piped music. Lifting heavy and having to drop weights would be frowned upon and I would be told to lift within my capabilities.Finish position of a deadlift would be closer to hip crease height...
...and then there's snatch...
...and jerk...
...and for safety reasons when it would be more dangerous not to bail.
But still, yes, "dropping" should still be a controlled/guided drop...(although at a certain weight, the barbell is going to rest very near where it lands).
(Fortunately for me, my current gym is entirely rubberized flooring w/ full bumper plates. Ironically, one of the more dangerous drops is w/ just a pair of tens on the bar because that thing can come to life and sprout legs if you drop it just right...or just wrong, I guess.)0 -
Thank you. This is what puts me off going to the gyms in my neighbourhood - all fancy mirrors, carpeting and piped music. Lifting heavy and having to drop weights would be frowned upon and I would be told to lift within my capabilities.Finish position of a deadlift would be closer to hip crease height...
...and then there's snatch...
...and jerk...
...and for safety reasons when it would be more dangerous not to bail.
But still, yes, "dropping" should still be a controlled/guided drop...(although at a certain weight, the barbell is going to rest very near where it lands).
(Fortunately for me, my current gym is entirely rubberized flooring w/ full bumper plates. Ironically, one of the more dangerous drops is w/ just a pair of tens on the bar because that thing can come to life and sprout legs if you drop it just right...or just wrong, I guess.)
I disagree about the part that needing to drop a barbell = not lifting "within your capabilities"...
...but acknowledge that it is, in fact, what you would be told at many gyms...
...(especially since some gyms just aren't equipped for certain kinds of lifting).0 -
Everyone needs to stfu and stop dropping weights at my gym. They disturb me when I'm on my recumbent bike whilst reading Finnegan's Wake.
Notsrs.0 -
Just FYI powerlifting comps still require you to lower the bar "in a controlled manner" after completing the lift. Still when you are lifting big weights they are obviously going to make some noise even when lowered slowly. And at the other end of the spectrum, it is called a deadLIFT not a deadlower.0
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Ironic coming from someone whose workout is all posturing.:laugh:It is true. Of course Olympiads are not weak, that just a silly statement. Throwing at a competition is one thing...throwing in a crowded gym, is just poor manners.
- not to mention dangerous and unneccesary after every set. Just posturing in most cases.
Why are you picking on Carlo? Carlos? He might have different goals than you. Yoga planches are not that easy.
I think you missed the joke.
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This was not easy for me either.
Neato! Which one are you?
To OP: I've dropped my deadlift, it's heavy and noisy. Nobody died.
It's technically not "allowed" at my gym, but it's really not an issue.
Ooh, that is cool. Wondering which one you are as well, it looks cool!
I drop my weights, but I've got long arms so they don't make much noise.0 -
Why are you picking on Carlo? Carlos? He might have different goals than you. Yoga planches are not that easy.
This was not easy for me either.
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"throw down" is a rather grandiose term for dropping
sometimes it happens and if you're not in PF nobody should care
it's a gym ffs, there's some huffin and banging but that doesn't mean anything
keep calm ladies, it's just some iron0 -
Yep, hence the laughing smiley.
Ironic coming from someone whose workout is all posturing.:laugh:It is true. Of course Olympiads are not weak, that just a silly statement. Throwing at a competition is one thing...throwing in a crowded gym, is just poor manners.
- not to mention dangerous and unneccesary after every set. Just posturing in most cases.
I like what you did there! :laugh: - took me a moment for the penny to drop!
edit: I just read the exchange of posts re: yoga above. I took this in good humour and I'm sure that is how it was meant.
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The thing with deadlifts is that when you are pulling the bar up, it is completely natural to keep your back and the other muscles involved as tight as possible. In order to lower the bar slowly, you are starting to release/relax muscles, but you DO NOT want to relax the ones that are keeping your back in a non-rounded, safe position.
It's rather complicated and seems like it would be easy to screw up and accidentally expose yourself to a crippling back injury. I drop mine. And I work out at home, often alone, so there's also nobody to 'impress' with my banging, crashing, and grunting.0 -
Problem is, the people who work out at a "McGym" like Planet Fitness have no idea what it means to lift heavy - nor what Oly or Power lifts are. Lifting anything heavy or making any noise indicating that you're actually exerting yourself (e.g., grunting) will result in some sensitive soul hitting the "lunk alarm". Thus, they see a YouTube video of somebody Oly/Power lifting (probably with bumper plates and an appropriate floor surface) and have no idea what it's all about. Admittedly, it sounds a lot different than the hissing of hamster wheels (treadmills, ellipticals, etc.) and pink, rubber-coated 5 lb. dumbbells being placed gently back in the racks after an "exhausting" set of 40 reps of bosu ball tricep kickbacks.You do realize that bumper plates are meant to be dropped? And lifting platforms are built to have certain types of plates dropped on them? Failure is actually a really important part of reaching your maximum in lifting and pretty frequent in Olympic lifting as well as powerlifting. If your gym doesn't have a problem with their most likely droppable equipment being dropped, then just turn your headphones up and mind your own business. Its a gym, not a library.
I have yet to see anyone reach a super heavy weight on a lift and even have the energy left to "throw" the barbell, I'm betting the OP is referring to dropping the bar.0 -
Problem is, the people who work out at a "McGym" like Planet Fitness have no idea what it means to lift heavy - nor what Oly or Power lifts are. Lifting anything heavy or making any noise indicating that you're actually exerting yourself (e.g., grunting) will result in some sensitive soul hitting the "lunk alarm". Thus, they see a YouTube video of somebody Oly/Power lifting (probably with bumper plates and an appropriate floor surface) and have no idea what it's all about. Admittedly, it sounds a lot different than the hissing of hamster wheels (treadmills, ellipticals, etc.) and pink, rubber-coated 5 lb. dumbbells being placed gently back in the racks after an "exhausting" set of 40 reps of bosu ball tricep kickbacks.You do realize that bumper plates are meant to be dropped? And lifting platforms are built to have certain types of plates dropped on them? Failure is actually a really important part of reaching your maximum in lifting and pretty frequent in Olympic lifting as well as powerlifting. If your gym doesn't have a problem with their most likely droppable equipment being dropped, then just turn your headphones up and mind your own business. Its a gym, not a library.
I have yet to see anyone reach a super heavy weight on a lift and even have the energy left to "throw" the barbell, I'm betting the OP is referring to dropping the bar.
hahahaha. In for lifters v. nonlifters.0 -
If you're dropping the bar after a PR overhead lift at a significant weight, or after a heavy DL, I get it.
What I find absolutely silly are people doing power cleans with a weight less than what I shoulder press dropping the bar from the shoulder for multiple reps in a set, every single time. You're wearing shorts (I hope), bringing the bar from your shoulders to your waist will not blow anything out. It's a little ridiculous.
When I deadlift 4 plates (which is currently at or near my max, depending on the day), I don't drop a 405 lbs bar from my waist after the lift, I set it down. When I clean 225, I sure as hell don't throw that down either. Does my gym have bumper plates? Absolutely, but that doesn't mean that I'm just going to drop heavy things left and right.
If you're dropping a weight rep after rep after rep, chances are that you're just doing it to call attention to yourself, and you know it.0 -
What I find absolutely silly are people doing power cleans with a weight less than what I shoulder press dropping the bar from the shoulder for multiple reps in a set, every single time. You're wearing shorts (I hope), bringing the bar from your shoulders to your waist will not blow anything out. It's a little ridiculous.
When I deadlift 4 plates (which is currently at or near my max, depending on the day), I don't drop a 405 lbs bar from my waist after the lift, I set it down. When I clean 225, I sure as hell don't throw that down either. Does my gym have bumper plates? Absolutely, but that doesn't mean that I'm just going to drop heavy things left and right.
If you're dropping a weight rep after rep after rep, chances are that you're just doing it to call attention to yourself, and you know it.
Hossein Rezazadeh just told me that he gets angry if anyone drops a bar with less than 220kg on it, because that's just a power clean!
What has your shoulder press got to do with anything? I one of the people who trains at my gym is a girl who weighs less than 50kg, she regularly drops snatches and C&Js that I and I guess you could press, but I don't see the relevence.
At the end of the day people who drop rep after rep, may be attention seekers, may be idiots, or may just be well coached lifters doing the right thing. I see examples of all 3 in my gym, one size does not fit all. Just because some people don't like it, or do it themselves, it doesn't automatically make it wrong or evil.0 -
Yeah that's the ticket. I'm alone in my basement calling attention to myself even though nobody can see or hear me.If you're dropping a weight rep after rep after rep, chances are that you're just doing it to call attention to yourself, and you know it.
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What has your shoulder press got to do with anything? I one of the people who trains at my gym is a girl who weighs less than 50kg, she regularly drops snatches and C&Js that I and I guess you could press, but I don't see the relevence.
Does she drop the bar after every rep? If you can't see the relevance of a shoulder press to doing a controlled lowering of an overhead lift, then I can't really help you out there.0 -
Yeah that's the ticket. I'm alone in my basement calling attention to myself even though nobody can see or hear me.
I guess that in your case you're doing it to get excited about your lift? Doesn't make it necessary, although what you do in your own home is obviously no one's concern but your own (and your spouse's I suppose)0 -
What has your shoulder press got to do with anything? I one of the people who trains at my gym is a girl who weighs less than 50kg, she regularly drops snatches and C&Js that I and I guess you could press, but I don't see the relevence.
Does she drop the bar after every rep? If you can't see the relevance of a shoulder press to doing a controlled lowering of an overhead lift, then I can't really help you out there.
Yep, she doesnt really know anything about proper form though, as she only represents her country at weightlifting.
If you can't see the lack of relevence between how much you press, and how much someone else is lifting and dropping...
Like I said before, could be a whole host of reasons, if its done safely and with bumpers, no problem.0
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