Humans are not designed to drink cows milk
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so unnatural, do you think cows put out 1% and 2% milk? NO it's processed, probably with chemicals
Wait. Didnt you say you drank almond milk? How did the milk get from the almond to the carton? If it wasnt processed then its just magic?
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hahaha - long day at work?0
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so unnatural, do you think cows put out 1% and 2% milk? NO it's processed, probably with chemicals
Wait. Didnt you say you drank almond milk? How did the milk get from the almond to the carton? If it wasnt processed then its just magic?
Almonds produce tears naturally when they are subject to heavy abuse. We call these tears milk.0 -
So all of you crying BS... watch this video.
What? Faked? Photoshopped?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzS8p727gvM
explain it.
enjoy your milk.
I watched the video, without the audio given that sound tracks and narration tends to appeal to emotions and distract you from what you're actually seeing.
What I saw was a good portion of pictures without context that could be sad or benign depending on the actual context. The majority of what I saw that was clearly animal abuse appeared to be at one location.
I am well aware that there are some places with practices that are completely deplorable, but using one place to suggest that all or most places are this way, as well as using arguably benign photographs to suggest abuse, puts the source into question.0 -
your right....the udders are hard to suck on.0
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Did you know that in order for a cow to produce milk she must be pregnant. The cows are KEPT pregnant year round to produce it. The girl calves are kept to raise as new cows & the cycles starts again. The boy calves are killed as young as 5 days old as they become useless to milk production. 5 days old. Separated from their mother & killed because they are a boy.
Think about THAT when having your cows milk. The dairy industry won't tell you that either.
The general public needs the truth. We all want to enjoy our food with a clean conscience. Those who believe cows are treated fairly drink milk, those who do not, do not drink milk.
As a dairy farmer, what was your personal experience and what everyone wants to know is, did the cows suffer pain or abuse?
Thanks in advance.
My opinion is that people do not have enough facts to make a true judgement. I don't drink milk because I like the idea of eating food raw and from nature and I'd personally never approach a cow in a field and suckle it. And having dairy causes me skin and respiratory allergies.
I have been on dairy farms every summer my entire childhood, helping my uncles. And this absolutely does not happen... Think about your rational, if they kill off all the boy calves, who is going to stud the females to keep them pregnant? Also what a waste of beef! Sure just like any other population I'm sure there are greedy *kitten* that have their animals living in horrible conditions. But for the most part that does not happen. And I loved milk straight from the farm, perhaps more people need to go back to the ways of old and raise their own food and animals for their families, then there wouldn't be so much of this crap cause you'd know exactly where it came from. Sad thing is most people would starve cause it's inhumane to eat an animal!0 -
So all of you crying BS... watch this video.
What? Faked? Photoshopped?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzS8p727gvM
explain it.
enjoy your milk.
Thank You, I will enjoy my milk. I've read the articles about milk and the argument against animal proteins, a propaganda video isn't going to change my mind. I drink milk and cheese and eat eggs and chicken breasts and pork and beef and even cute little baby lambies.
Just think of that, you could post a video about veal or lamb production! Cute little baby animals being slaughtered to satisfy the demented desires of a population of carnivorous fiends! Pass the mint sauce please.0 -
Did you know that in order for a cow to produce milk she must be pregnant. The cows are KEPT pregnant year round to produce it. The girl calves are kept to raise as new cows & the cycles starts again. The boy calves are killed as young as 5 days old as they become useless to milk production. 5 days old. Separated from their mother & killed because they are a boy.
Think about THAT when having your cows milk. The dairy industry won't tell you that either.
Proof please?
I worked on a dairy farm for 4 months out of the year for almost 15 years and never saw this.
The general public needs the truth. We all want to enjoy our food with a clean conscience. Those who believe cows are treated fairly drink milk, those who do not, do not drink milk.
As a dairy farmer, what was your personal experience and what everyone wants to know is, did the cows suffer pain or abuse?
Thanks in advance.
My opinion is that people do not have enough facts to make a true judgement. I don't drink milk because I like the idea of eating food raw and from nature and I'd personally never approach a cow in a field and suckle it. And having dairy causes me skin and respiratory allergies.
Pain or abuse? Absolutely not
Does it happen? I am sure at some dairy farms it does, but the many that I have worked on, it does not.
I don't know about you, but I have a difficult time taking serious any conversation that includes the terms "girl" and/or "boy" when referring to young cattle. The terms "boy" and "girl" refer to the human species, not to bovines.
Also, I don't think the lactation process differs greatly between species of mammals. Pregnancy stimulates the hormones necessary to begin lactation (esp oxytocin which generates "milk-letdown"), but once lactation begins, it is the continual stimulation of the breast (or teat for bovine) that continues the milk production - not pregnancy.0 -
mind you...the packaging is tasty.0
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If they kill the male cows...... at 5 days old....... how do the females stay pregnant?0
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Excuse me, but my father worked his *kitten* off for years as a dairy farmer making milk for AMERICA.
That milk is made to make not only milk, but yogurt, cheese, and countless other products you eat.
How about you spend a day with my dad, on your knees putting milkers on cows at LEAST twice a day, getting kicked, being hot and sweaty, doing your JOB, and making a living?
Excuse me while I go THANK my farmer of a father.0 -
so unnatural, do you think cows put out 1% and 2% milk? NO it's processed, probably with chemicals
I'll bet it even had chemicals when the cows put it out!!!0 -
so unnatural, do you think cows put out 1% and 2% milk? NO it's processed, probably with chemicals
Wait. Didnt you say you drank almond milk? How did the milk get from the almond to the carton? If it wasnt processed then its just magic?
They are dissolved in water, no chemicals needed0 -
so unnatural, do you think cows put out 1% and 2% milk? NO it's processed, probably with chemicals
I'll bet it even had chemicals when the cows put it out!!!
Yes from all the antibiotics and steroids0 -
Ha, not only do I enjoy milk everyday, but after every workout I enjoy (madly actually) some chocolate milk.
This thread makes me laugh, can't believe it escalated so much within the last 24 hrs lol0 -
so unnatural, do you think cows put out 1% and 2% milk? NO it's processed, probably with chemicals
I'll bet it even had chemicals when the cows put it out!!!
Yes from all the antibiotics and steroids
Among other things. Seriously, I've heard that milk is nothing but chemicals.0 -
i haven't drank milk in years.
I get my dairies and calcium elsewhere.
oh and for cereals i use unsweetened almond milk.0 -
Did you know that in order for a cow to produce milk she must be pregnant. The cows are KEPT pregnant year round to produce it. The girl calves are kept to raise as new cows & the cycles starts again. The boy calves are killed as young as 5 days old as they become useless to milk production. 5 days old. Separated from their mother & killed because they are a boy.
Think about THAT when having your cows milk. The dairy industry won't tell you that either.
Proof please?
I worked on a dairy farm for 4 months out of the year for almost 15 years and never saw this.
The general public needs the truth. We all want to enjoy our food with a clean conscience. Those who believe cows are treated fairly drink milk, those who do not, do not drink milk.
As a dairy farmer, what was your personal experience and what everyone wants to know is, did the cows suffer pain or abuse?
Thanks in advance.
My opinion is that people do not have enough facts to make a true judgement. I don't drink milk because I like the idea of eating food raw and from nature and I'd personally never approach a cow in a field and suckle it. And having dairy causes me skin and respiratory allergies.
Pain or abuse? Absolutely not
Does it happen? I am sure at some dairy farms it does, but the many that I have worked on, it does not.
I studied animal science and had an internship at a dairy. Those cows were always very happy. They roamed free, only had to "work" 2 times per day during milking and that was just walking in to get it done. We sold the bulls for $20 and never had a problem getting rid of them. All cows at major dairies are artificially inseminated and produce offspring that are kept or sold, whether it is a boy or girl. The only thing that people might have a problem with is that they young calfs are fed from bottles, not their mothers and they are tied up for a few weeks to gain size and keep the rest of the cows stress free.0 -
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Oh and humans weren't designed...we evolved...derp0
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City people *sigh*
Lets get our facts straight. Is there cases of abuse of cows??? YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT! There are also cases of children being abused to the point they are put on life support. Dogs beaten so bad they lose there site or ability to walk. It's out there. That does not mean EVERY dairy farm is like that!
When was the last time you visited a dairy farm? Obviously not recently. Abusing a cow and milking it to the point its udders would become raw and infected does not happen.
They are not kept pregnant *sigh* Do you know mothers after they have their babies produce milk until that child stops nursing for a period of time? There are actually women who are out there that SELL their milk and haven' been pregnant in over 10 years... SO lets get our facts straight.
They would not in fact kill a cow at 5 days old. In fact there are places that kill young calves for veal. This is a practice I DO NOT condone because they kill calf at times as early as 1 month and often times administer steroids and hormones to the calf. This is where a high number of abusive practices happen, but this is not the entire industry and it should not be treated as if it is.
Abusing the cow would not be to the dairy farmers best interest. He sell the milk and his goal is to have the highest quality in a competitive market.
HOWEVER you could make the statement it is difficult for our bodies to process milk consumed due to our lack of consumption of vitamin D. There is a fact for ya.
oh and almost forgot.. did you know if a cow because too stressed she won't give as much milk?? crazy right? So lets not judge the masses by the village idiot please0 -
BTW, humans were designed to find food using our brains. It makes a lot more sense to use an animal for food without killing it. Humans have been drinking blood and milk loooong before you and I were put on this earth. To say we weren't designed for milk is just plain ignorant to the facts.0
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so unnatural, do you think cows put out 1% and 2% milk? NO it's processed, probably with chemicals
I'll bet it even had chemicals when the cows put it out!!!
Yes from all the antibiotics and steroids
Yep I stopped drinking milk 2 years ago. I was enlightened in environment biology about the animal factories0 -
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BTW, humans were designed to find food using our brains. It makes a lot more sense to use an animal for food without killing it. Humans have been drinking blood and milk loooong before you and I were put on this earth. To say we weren't designed for milk is just plain ignorant to the facts.
I agree, also using the word "designed" when talking about humans is pretty ignorant too!0 -
I don't drink milk except in my coffee. Otherwise, I use it just for cooking. I try to stay away from factory farmed anything. I believe there is a huge difference to the animals and ai'm willing to pay extra knowing that. I buy organic, whole, non homogenized milk. I like raw milk too, but don't buy it often.
To the posters that had good experiences on dairy farms, good. I'm glad to hear it. As a lot of things in life, some are good and some are not. To the poster that referred to the op as a selfish pig just for expressing their opinion. Sheesh. That's not cool my friend.0 -
so unnatural, do you think cows put out 1% and 2% milk? NO it's processed, probably with chemicals
I buy only USDA certified 1% cows and raise them in my living room where they are free to roam the hallways. You should see the size of our litter box though.
Ha ha ha!! I just sprayed my desk and computer screen in peanut butter and toast!! Lol. Attractive0 -
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I usually don't drink much cows milk for personal reasons....
...but this thread is just giving me huge cravings!
I'm having a huge steak tonight with a nice cold glass of milk. Then I am going to my local ice cream shop to get an extra large mocha coffee milk shake.
I might go over my calories today, but it will be worth it!0 -
Can I milk the OP for starting this thread?
Promise not to use my teeth.0
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