TheFast Diet

We are the same.

You can repeat that as often as you like. Repetition will not make it true.

And as many people have stated before 5:2, as other IF diets, all reduce calorie intake. That you personally do not like it is utterly irrelevant. Other people do like it and have good results from it, and your opinionated posting are not made any the more true by your tenacity.

I may be gone a while, my bread is due out of the oven and a duck is due to go in!

It is true, though.

It works, but I don't recommend it because it's unnecessary. It is no different than just counting your calories and being in a weekly deficit.

But it won't work if you eat too much during the 5 days, so personally I say stay away from it, its pointless.

I've hit a plateau. I eat 1,200 calories on days I don't work out and 1,400 on days I do. I'm just wondering if I need a shock to my metabolism.

It works and I just broke a month long plateau by adding a 3rd "fast" day and getting into ketosis. Aside from weight loss there is a TON of evidence based research on the health benefits of intermittent fasting.

OP, do your research and ignore the people who can't be bothered to educate themselves. Do what you want, it's your body.

Personally, I HAVE done the research, am satisfied it's a safe way of eating with advantages above and beyond weight loss. It works for me, is sustainable and I've seen great results.

5:2 works for me. I've lost 19 pounds in 8 weeks, 15 of which were from fat. Considering I have a back injury so am unable to lift weights, possibly ever again, I'm over the moon to have lost such a low %age of muscle. No other way of eating has been sustainable for me. No other way of eating has given me similar results. It's given me my life back.

There are those who will tell you that their way is the only way. That's total BS. Do your research then do what YOU want.

I'm so sick of this crap. I know I can't force anyone to educate themselves, but this is getting stupid.

Do you know why it works for you?

Ah yeah, thats because you're creating a caloric deficit.

I do 5:2 and 4:3. It is only as unnecessary and pointless as any other diet would be. It is spreading the deficit to 2 or 3 days instead of 7. It is for people who don't want to feel they are constantly on a diet.

It is a personal preference. That is all.

I've lost 17.5 lb in 13 weeks. Not miraculous weight loss, just a steady and healthy rate that suits my lifestyle.

If anyone wants buddies doing that way of eating without negative preconceptions, feel free to add me.

I must admit to being of the belief that the publicity on the diet is misleading. Not necessarily by the authors but by people who write about it.

One girl I know is 5ft 2 and was eating over 2000 calories on her normal days and wondered why she wasn't losing. When I explained 2000 calories is for the "average" sized woman (I am vertically challenged myself) she got quite stroppy with me.

You have to be realistic about your intake when you are not fasting. You can't eat all the pies and all the chocolate washed down with Pinot Grigio. It is still a diet, and it takes discipline, and if you are smaller than average you have to eat less than 2000 cals on non fast days.

OP, do your research and ignore the people who can't be bothered to educate themselves. Do what you want, it's your body.

Personally, I HAVE done the research, am satisfied it's a safe way of eating with advantages above and beyond weight loss. It works for me, is sustainable and I've seen great results.

5:2 works for me. I've lost 19 pounds in 8 weeks, 15 of which were from fat. Considering I have a back injury so am unable to lift weights, possibly ever again, I'm over the moon to have lost such a low %age of muscle. No other way of eating has been sustainable for me. No other way of eating has given me similar results. It's given me my life back.

There are those who will tell you that their way is the only way. That's total BS. Do your research then do what YOU want.

I'm so sick of this crap. I know I can't force anyone to educate themselves, but this is getting stupid.

Do you know why it works for you?

Ah yeah, thats because you're creating a caloric deficit.

So what? You're the only one here insisting that one method has to better than any other. 5:2 is a deficit pattern I can live with, that many many people can live with, that makes losing weight easy. Show me the evidence that it's dangerous or "ridiculous" or that backs up any of your BS. You can't because there isn't any. In the meantime, you continue to spout off like you're some kind of expert.

You don't want to do it, fine! Don't! But either educate yourself or be quiet because you're making yourself look ignorant and arrogant, the worst possible combination in any human being.

There are lots of ways of restricting calories. Leangains works. ADF works. IF works. The warrior diet works. Daily restriction works. Atkins works. Weight Watchers works. Slimming World, low fat, South Beach, JUDDD, slimfast. the list is endless. Lots of things work, if you can stick to it for life and there's the rub. This works for me and lots of others, and, for me at least, it is completely and utterly sustainable which is more than I can say for any other method I've tried. Everyone needs to find their own way, but they need FACTS not opinion, hearsay or supposition.

If you had a PhD and had actually studied it in any way, like Dr Michael Mosley or Dr Kirsten Varady, I might give your opinion more credence. But you are an insufferable know it all on an Internet forum, nothing more.

OP, do your research and ignore the people who can't be bothered to educate themselves. Do what you want, it's your body.

Personally, I HAVE done the research, am satisfied it's a safe way of eating with advantages above and beyond weight loss. It works for me, is sustainable and I've seen great results.

5:2 works for me. I've lost 19 pounds in 8 weeks, 15 of which were from fat. Considering I have a back injury so am unable to lift weights, possibly ever again, I'm over the moon to have lost such a low %age of muscle. No other way of eating has been sustainable for me. No other way of eating has given me similar results. It's given me my life back.

There are those who will tell you that their way is the only way. That's total BS. Do your research then do what YOU want.

I'm so sick of this crap. I know I can't force anyone to educate themselves, but this is getting stupid.

Do you know why it works for you?

Ah yeah, thats because you're creating a caloric deficit.

So what? You're the only one here insisting that one method has to better than any other. 5:2 is a deficit pattern I can live with, that many many people can live with, that makes losing weight easy. Show me the evidence that it's dangerous or "ridiculous" or that backs up any of your BS. You can't because there isn't any. In the meantime, you continue to spout off like you're some kind of expert.

You don't want to do it, fine! Don't! But either educate yourself or be quiet because you're making yourself look ignorant and arrogant, the worst possible combination in any human being.

There are lots of ways of restricting calories. Leangains works. ADF works. IF works. The warrior diet works. Daily restriction works. Atkins works. Weight Watchers works. Slimming World, low fat, South Beach, JUDDD, slimfast. the list is endless. Lots of things work, if you can stick to it for life and there's the rub. This works for me and lots of others, and, for me at least, it is completely and utterly sustainable which is more than I can say for any other method I've tried. Everyone needs to find their own way, but they need FACTS not opinion, hearsay or supposition.

If you had a PhD and had actually studied it in any way, like Dr Michael Mosley or Dr Kirsten Varady, I might give your opinion more credence. But you are an insufferable know it all on an Internet forum, nothing more.

Ok so lets get one thing straight, you've admitted many ways work (exactly what I've said).

Now, tell me WHY you want to eat so little on 2 days - give me an actual reason (for fat loss) - I say fat loss because you made it very evident in your post, which is why you did it. You also said its the only way of eating that has given you these results. Why?

If i'm honest with you, Michael Mosley is laughed at by people much higher than him in the qualification world (if qualifications is what seems to do it for you people).

Fact = Consume less calories than you lose = fat loss occurs.

Whether you do 5:2 or not, if you consumed the same weekly calories you do now, without fasting,, the fat loss results = same.

Doesn't work for me. When a plan tells me I can eat as much as I feel like without gaining weight if I only eat between such and so hours or on such and so days I seem to take it as a challenge. :sad:

Ah, well, 5:2 doesn't advocate that because its not 16:8 or the warrior diet. It is a calorie restricted way of eating, pure and simple.

16:8 and the warrior diet are calorie restricted ways of eating, as should all diets because its a lifestyle thing, so you have a pointless.... point here.

When someone is so far from homeostasis, any form of dieting will work.

May I just quibble with that bit (and the next bit too, plus the IF is ED, but that would be opinion).

Homeostasis can occur at any weight, any bodyfat% etc. It does not mean being at ideal weight etc. it just means at equilibrium. And a person who has weighed 20 stones for 10 years has achieved it!

Uber-coffee sounded OK until I realised you probably meant the bulletproof thing. I never understood that! Why do that to coffee? And what on Earth must it taste like?

16:8 and the warrior diet are calorie restricted ways of eating, as should all diets because its a lifestyle thing, so you have a pointless.... point here.

No, not all diets are calorie restricted nor should they be. Go and look up the definition of 'diet' .

I don't work because I don't want to. I don't need to. I don't claim benefits, I never have, never will. (even if I did, it wouldn't be any of your business).

Ahhhh still living off Mum & Dad then. I get ya. So then, instead of sitting here arguing all day, why not toddle off and do something constructive with your life? You're certainly not helping anyone here and frankly you appear to be about as welcome in this thread as a dose of the clap.