Beauty procedures to help with weight loss
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I choose to use my money for my gym membership rather than overly expensive often unproved beauty products. But hey, whatever floats your boat I say ;-))
Seriously you think gym membership will help you with wrinkles in future?
I am 36 and don't have a single wrinkle. I do use lotion daily (from the grocery store!), but otherwise, a healthy diet and exercise and lots of water. *shrug*
Wrinkles come from the loss of collogen (sp?), which is noth genetic and environmental. Vitamin C helps build and maintain collogen. East oranges and strawberries and raspberries and save your money on the ridiculous and expensive treatments.
My BFF spends ridiculous amounts of money on beauty treatments and every time I see her she looks worse than the last time. But she also drinks too much, smoked for 20 years and goes to tanning beds all the time. And she doesn't exercise.
(She's younger than I am and looks five years older.)0 -
I do dry skin brushing several times a week. Once a month or so I do a body scrub (with home made olive oil and salt scrub) which makes skin feel wonderful. I'm also 36 and no wrinkles - never smoked, not a sun worshipper either, and parents both look young. I think diet is most important, plus drinking lots of water. No other body treatments, apart from the occasional mani/pedicure.0
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I do dry skin brushing several times a week. Once a month or so I do a body scrub (with home made olive oil and salt scrub) which makes skin feel wonderful. I'm also 36 and no wrinkles - never smoked, not a sun worshipper either, and parents both look young. I think diet is most important, plus drinking lots of water. No other body treatments, apart from the occasional mani/pedicure.
So you just brush the old skin away and don't put any moisturizer on top of it?
I also my own scrub - mix of coffee and sour cream.0 -
I take a tablespoon of blackstrap molasses each day for the iron and calcium - but it is supposed to keep grey hair at bay! My hair is very healthy and I don't have any grey yet (I'm 37), but that is genes I think.
I had to google it, never knew of it healthy benefits! You think it helps your hair?
I take biotin 6000 for my hair. And recently bought Priorin N for my hair but adding 3 pills to my other vitamins is a bit too much...
What else do you do to your hair?
I just use head and shoulders shampoo and conditioner, and brush it every couple of days!
I think it's in such good condition because I don't do anything to it, frankly. I used to dye my hair in college, but I haven't done that since I was 22.
I love my blackstrap molasses though - I'd recommend anyone take it, it has so many benefits, and is good if you'd rather get vitamins and minerals from food rather than tablets.
(That said, I do take one calcium tablet a day - as a vegetarian who has cut way down on dairy, I couldn't see any other way).
Other than that - I've noticed the skin on my arms and legs has gotten really smooth - it used to have lots and lots of tiny little bumps that weren't very visible but I could see them and I just thought there were part of me and there for good. I drink 3 litres of water a day and I am positive that helped to cleared them up.
I'm going to try it then, if I find it in stores... Thanks for the recommendation!
You brush your hair every couple of days? You don't brush it every day?
I also used to dye my hair when I was young and silly. It almost destroyed my hair! My hair was dry and broke all the time. It's been 10 years I don't dye my hair at all and trying to stay this way. When I have more grey hair, I'll start dying it again... Hopefully not too soon.
Here in Ireland, I get blackstrap molasses in any healthfood shop. Make sure to get blackstrap, not regular. I get this one by Meridian: http://www.nourish.ie/meridian-organic-blackstrap-molasses/merm061pd.html
I only brush my hair every couple of days because I have an easy style and I often scrape or clip it back, I don't need to dress up for work.0 -
Coconut oil! I swear by this! Put it on first while taking a shower, do your normal routine (wash/ condition hair, shave legs, etc...) and let it soak into your skin. Just before you get out of the shower, rinse it off. It will give you a radiant glow and leave your skin feeling ahhh-mazing! It doesn't exactly help with weight loss per se, but it works wonders
Oh wow, nice! Thanks for the recommendation! I've never thought of using coconut oil this way!
I usually just use it on my hair and I swear by it! It's the best treatment for dry hair! I put it on my hair 2 hours before hair wash. And later wash it off with my shampoo.
And it's the only oil that can be easily washed out after one wash. Usually with other oils it takes 3-4 washes which is damaging for hair.
It also helps keep bugs away! Slather some on and your skin will be sooo soft, and no skeeters!0 -
Honestly I just drink ALOT of water, just started drinking from a 4 litre container 2 days ago:) And I use Nivea for my face and body. Sometimes ill use other body creams, like jergens. I use bio oil sometimes as well on my face not very much though cuz itll make me break out. my skin is VERY SENSITIVE!!0
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My skin improved when I stopped trying to follow a "skincare regimen" with "clarifying" and "toning" and "moisurizing" and "defoliating" stuff. Now I just rinse in the shower, sometimes use a bit of very mild cleanser, and mild (grocery store) moisturizer during dry wehather. My skin is smoother, and both less greasy in some places and less dry in others.
My hair improved dramatically when I stopped washing it every day and using extra products on it. Now i wash every few days with a very gentle shampoo that promises no special effects. Hair doesn't get dirty as fast, and isn't as dry and frizzy.
Most "beauty products" are really expensive snake oil.0 -
My skin improved when I stopped trying to follow a "skincare regimen" with "clarifying" and "toning" and "moisurizing" and "defoliating" stuff. Now I just rinse in the shower, sometimes use a bit of very mild cleanser, and mild (grocery store) moisturizer during dry wehather. My skin is smoother, and both less greasy in some places and less dry in others.
My hair improved dramatically when I stopped washing it every day and using extra products on it. Now i wash every few days with a very gentle shampoo that promises no special effects. Hair doesn't get dirty as fast, and isn't as dry and frizzy.
Most "beauty products" are really expensive snake oil.
But I rinse it once a week with cheap canned beer and that has helped with dryness that was starting up the last year or so.0 -
I pretty much gave up on "beautiful skin" after a horrific accident at age 15 that scarred up my left side, lower abdomen and left a good gash by my eye. I do want my skin healthy, and use lotion randomly towards that goal, but spa days seem like a waste of money (never gonna get rid of scars) and a hot shower is as relaxing as paying the fees to go use a Jacuzzi. I used moisturizers while pregnant to help the stretch mark situation; however, I still got them because my scars puckered and expanded.
I wouldn't say I'm not beautiful, I love my body right now. I would, however, say that buying expensive products would be a waste of my time and money because nothing is going to reverse the parts I don't like.
Nearly 50 pounds down and no loose skin yet. I credit water and vegetables.0 -
I LOVE this thread!!! I do a number of different things, but all of the products I use are all natural (meaning I make alot of my creams, butters, oils and scrubs myself)
1. I drink over 100 ounces of water daily.
2. I enjoy 20 + minutes in the sauna weekly
3. Unrefined Virgin Coconut works wonders! I use it on my face and body daily and have no blemishes because of it. Doesn't hurt to cook with it either ;-D
4. Homeade sugar or sea salt scrub - once a week. It's great for exfoliating the skin.
5. Jamaican Black Castor Oil - use on my hair - helps with hair growth and keeps greys away
6. Biotin, Multivitamin and Fish Oil
I'm thinking about coolscupting - there's a special going on in my area.0 -
I haven't really done too much different to support weight loss. I use Aveda products for my skin and hair and get facials about every 4-5 weeks. I have thought about body wraps just for the experience, but don't really need them. I also drink a lot of water and dont spend much time in the sun.0
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I do dry skin brushing several times a week. Once a month or so I do a body scrub (with home made olive oil and salt scrub) which makes skin feel wonderful. I'm also 36 and no wrinkles - never smoked, not a sun worshipper either, and parents both look young. I think diet is most important, plus drinking lots of water. No other body treatments, apart from the occasional mani/pedicure.
So you just brush the old skin away and don't put any moisturizer on top of it?
I also my own scrub - mix of coffee and sour cream.
No, I don't moisturise after. Normally do it before bed.0 -
Sqeeum (spanx on steroids)0
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I pretty much gave up on "beautiful skin" after a horrific accident at age 15 that scarred up my left side, lower abdomen and left a good gash by my eye. I do want my skin healthy, and use lotion randomly towards that goal, but spa days seem like a waste of money (never gonna get rid of scars) and a hot shower is as relaxing as paying the fees to go use a Jacuzzi. I used moisturizers while pregnant to help the stretch mark situation; however, I still got them because my scars puckered and expanded.
I wouldn't say I'm not beautiful, I love my body right now. I would, however, say that buying expensive products would be a waste of my time and money because nothing is going to reverse the parts I don't like.
Nearly 50 pounds down and no loose skin yet. I credit water and vegetables.
I have scars from a bilateral mastectomy, and my plastic surgeon told me that Scar Away, a simple piece of silicone with adhesive, is the best thing. Your body heals itself best, and the silicone just keeps the natural oils and what-not in the scar region to accelerate healing.
I have many friends who spend a lot of money on spas, La Mer products, botox, scrubs, strange Japanese beauty treatments, etc., and none of it works in the long run. The ones who look the youngest are the ones who include strength training in their exercise routines, eat mostly nutrition dense foods, don't drink a lot, and use copious amounts of sunscreen. Ironically, they're the ones who spend the least on trying to look younger. Good nutrition does far more for the skin than any cream can.
Okay, so a face lift works to some extent, but then you need to maintain it, and you eventually end up looking like the old lady who has had too many facelifts. :ohwell:0 -
I pretty much gave up on "beautiful skin" after a horrific accident at age 15 that scarred up my left side, lower abdomen and left a good gash by my eye. I do want my skin healthy, and use lotion randomly towards that goal, but spa days seem like a waste of money (never gonna get rid of scars) and a hot shower is as relaxing as paying the fees to go use a Jacuzzi. I used moisturizers while pregnant to help the stretch mark situation; however, I still got them because my scars puckered and expanded.
I wouldn't say I'm not beautiful, I love my body right now. I would, however, say that buying expensive products would be a waste of my time and money because nothing is going to reverse the parts I don't like.
Nearly 50 pounds down and no loose skin yet. I credit water and vegetables.
Im sorry, hon...
Did you try any peels to reduce the appearance of your scars? Like chemical peel?0 -
Thanks. :flowerforyou:
It still dries out if I'm not careful in my experience. I use it as my first sign that I need to drink more.
Maybe it's the climate and water that affects your skin?
When I go back home, my skin gets dry as hell! Because our climate is very dry. My hands and feet get sooooooo dry in just a week, they start bleeding0 -
Personally, I'd love to try Lipolite. Think that's how it's spelled. I've seen really great results on a friend of mine and there's no down time at all. It sounds like that Cool sculpting might be like this is.0
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Im sorry, hon...
Did you try any peels to reduce the appearance of your scars? Like chemical peel?
My nurse advised they would never fully go away, she told me to keep them medicated and out of the sun until they healed. They've faded quite a lot but I don't think they will totally go away. I've lived almost half my life with these, they are a part of me now; I don't want to risk the side effects of a chemical peel. I don't think something superficial would do any good on such old scars, and a deep peel is a second degree burn; who wants to suffer that for "beauty"?
I'm not too bothered by it, they show where I've been and testify to my resilience. I just don't see a reason to spend a lot of time, money or worry on my skin, when life is going to leave a mark one way or another. Maybe my psyche was affected by how young I was when I had those permanent marks put on me.
As a side note, I love smiley-wrinkles on people; they show where those people have been in life, and how much they've smiled. I hope I have crunchy eyes someday, myself!0 -
I'm all about using creams and lotions on my skin. I've done it since I was a teenager and I'm going on 50 and everyone thinks I'm mid 30's so I think it pays off.
I'm interested in the bust cream. I looked up Collistar and its pretty expensive - but if it works I'm fine with that. Can anyone tell me what difference they noticed? I am heavy chested and through the years of gaining and losing I notice age on my chest. I use coconut oil, I've used castor oil and of course the same cream I use on my face. My problem is I have blemishes and I notice it breaks out much easier. I tried to use Vitamin C and it really broke out my chest. So I must be more sensitive in that area. Any one have any other good bust creams they use?0 -
Im sorry, hon...
Did you try any peels to reduce the appearance of your scars? Like chemical peel?
My nurse advised they would never fully go away, she told me to keep them medicated and out of the sun until they healed. They've faded quite a lot but I don't think they will totally go away. I've lived almost half my life with these, they are a part of me now; I don't want to risk the side effects of a chemical peel. I don't think something superficial would do any good on such old scars, and a deep peel is a second degree burn; who wants to suffer that for "beauty"?
I'm not too bothered by it, they show where I've been and testify to my resilience. I just don't see a reason to spend a lot of time, money or worry on my skin, when life is going to leave a mark one way or another. Maybe my psyche was affected by how young I was when I had those permanent marks put on me.
As a side note, I love smiley-wrinkles on people; they show where those people have been in life, and how much they've smiled. I hope I have crunchy eyes someday, myself!
That's true. I also love those smiley wrinkles. My friend has them. He's 49, he looks seriously HOT, and he has this playboy sexy guy personality girls get attracted to. He's got these wrinkles because he's always smiling and flirting. Love it0 -
The most researched and effective I've seen for preventing wrinkles is retina-e, fruit consumption, no smoking, avoid sun damage, water, and moisturize.0
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I'm all about using creams and lotions on my skin. I've done it since I was a teenager and I'm going on 50 and everyone thinks I'm mid 30's so I think it pays off.
I'm interested in the bust cream. I looked up Collistar and its pretty expensive - but if it works I'm fine with that. Can anyone tell me what difference they noticed? I am heavy chested and through the years of gaining and losing I notice age on my chest. I use coconut oil, I've used castor oil and of course the same cream I use on my face. My problem is I have blemishes and I notice it breaks out much easier. I tried to use Vitamin C and it really broke out my chest. So I must be more sensitive in that area. Any one have any other good bust creams they use?
I'm using this Collistar intensive bust volumizing night serum. http://www2.collistar.com/products/K25111/intensive-bust-volumizing-serum-night
My boobs obviously didnt get bigger but they don't get too small during my weightloss. Or maybe I'm imagining it. At least my skin looks good. I bought 3 tubes during the 50% off sale so I'm going to use it. I also have night body cream but not using it now.
Regarding your blemish problems on your chest. I know that coconut oil is very comedogenic and might close pores which leads to breakouts. Maybe you should change it to another oil like jojoba oil?
I'm not familiar with other bust creams or serums. I've tried only the Collistar and the Clarins serum. I wasn't impressed by the Clarins bust serum at all.0 -
I'm not a big spa or product junkie. I use a daily moisturizer that costs maybe $6.00 at the grocery store, and that's it. I think it's diet and genetics that help keep my skin nice.
Many people tell me I look younger than I am.0 -
I recently tripped while walking my dogs and I had scrapes on my knees that looked like they were getting infected, even with using topical antibiotics. A friend suggested I put honey on them. The effect was amazing! It was almost as if it regrew the skin faster and got rid of the infection. It does itch somewhat, but it was so worth it.
So that prompted me to use it on my skin like a mask. I leave it on for 10-15 minutes and then wipe it off with a warm washcloth. At first, it makes the skin red and seems to bring out bumps that weren't there before, but that effect goes away quickly. It is incredible how well my skin is looking from this. The honey I'm using is local and organic. I read that honey is a natural moisturizer. I do this a few times a week. Many days, I also take my makeup off with coconut oil and a warm washcloth.
I am 51 and really don't have wrinkles, but my neck has deflated from the weight loss (I was on here before and have lost a total of 38 lbs). That is the only thing that really shows my age. I hope the skin improves somewhat with further weighloss.0 -
You can try not only the honey but also Greek yogurt for your face. For my dry skin it does wonders!0
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Wow, I'm surprised at some of the backlash comments here with an almost defensive tone. Yes, your dietary intake has a big effect on your skin quality, as does exercise. But your skin is also exposed to the elements. Not all of the products you can use are expensive, and many have proven effects. Since loose skin is such a concern for significant weight loss, I don't know why people would react so negatively to even the idea that you could address that with skin care.
I am religious about sunscreen. I wear a minimum of SPF 30 on my face, even to the office on a cloudy day, and at least 55 if I will actually be outside. In addition, I take: a multivitamin, fish oil with krill, coQ10, zyflamend (which I am a huge fan of), 10K of biotin, and usually additional C and B-12.
After a lot of research, my skin care is a mix of expensive and inexpensive, based on quality. I use an inexpensive Neutrogena retinol night cream, but in the morning I use Obagi C serum. I do have a Clarisonic brush and while I do feel like that helps support absorption of things like serums, I suppose it's more of a fun luxury. Specifically, I think that the skin care is keeping my skin firm and elastic while I am losing weight in my face. I had a double chin which is now gone but my jawline is smooth and tight. I love sugar scrubs, and I frequently make my own, with natural oils like almond, apricot kernel and safflower.
There are numerous benefits to massage, and yes, there are cultures that swear by the whole sauna thing. I think there are a lot of things that support well-being, and look, even if it's just de-stressing, if that lowers your cortisol, doesn't that help support weight loss and general health?
Oh thank you so much for your response! I really appreciate it. It was also surprising for me to read so much negativity about beauty routine supporting healthy life style.
I agree on the Clarisonic, I don't see much difference from it. But I've read so much about the Obagi. Is it safe to use in the morning even with the SPF applied?
I'm afraid that weightloss might cause wrinkles to my face and I don't have any so far, maybe just a bit under my eyes. God blessed me with good skin and I'm trying my best to keep it. You know most people have problems with face skin after weight loss, not just the body. Some do fillers or fat injections to give youth to the face.
And yes, I swear by hamam and sauna. I'll try to find the procedures done in the bains here in Paris, it's expensive for full treatment but its amazing.
It is surprising, isn't it? Not all skin products are "ridiculous", "overpriced", "expensive"...
I use the Obagi C serum first. Usually a serum/moisturizer including peptides and hyaluronic acid over that, and then sunscreen. So it takes me a couple of minutes, but then again my typical makeup is tinted sunscreen/mascara/lip gloss so whatever. I'd rather put the time and money into my skin than just doing damage control with a lot of foundation (NOT that I am anti makeup!) The full Obagi system has you layering it too; I just don't use most of the rest of the stuff (though I do like the C cleanser, I most typically use cold cream or Cetaphil or even those face wipes). There are a lot of products that are expensive/questionable, but I think that a stable vitamin C and retinol are two things that are well demonstrated to support collagen production. I like the clarisonic. My skin is sensitive but as an exfoliant I seem to tolerate it well with the softest brush head. Anyway, I am 45 and my skin looks pretty much exactly like it did when I was 30 (and maybe better) ...just minimal crinkles at eye corners. I am sure that lifestyle is a lot, or even most of that (I don't drink often, I have never smoked, never been a sunbather), but I see no reason not to recognize that you can affect your skin from the outside too. Certainly you can protect it from sun and oxidative damage.0 -
Massages are good on a regular basis, I found this while training for my marathon. 1. It helps release toxins in the body (that is why you should drink lots of water after a massage). 2. Typically natural oils are used in massage (Sandlewood) that also help condition the skin....since your skin is the biggest organ of your body, this gets you essential oil to every part of your body (not just cosmetic areas). 3. It help you relieve stress and bring your muscles into a state that makes sleep more beneficial. 3a. Rest and proper sleep are ever so if not more important than skin care treatments for keeping aging at bay.
Diet is by far more important to skin health and keeping aging at bay. You have only to You Tube the 70 year old vegetarian that looks like she is 45 to understand the imapct good diet can have on your health. Simple things like substituting coconut oil over all other oils in cooking can have a huge impact on health over time. Certainly fruits and veggies over "Full Meal Deals" at fast food restaurants makes the biggiest difference. I used to juice for a few years (and still should) and there are many fruits and vegetables that are huge for taking care of the skin and many of these Green Smoothies have reported to reverse graying of hair as the natural minerals are replenished. Lifestyle choices determine how you look in 30 years and then 30 years of adhering to them, not a last minute wonder solution, to be somewhat brass and blunt in summing it up, most quick beauty solutions can be classified as "lipstick on a pig" (a term we use a lot at work for making things look better than they actually are). Beauty comes from within and from years of dedication to living well, everything else is just masking the truth that years of abuse may have rendered.
For good info on the effects of juicing, google Dr. Day's treatment of her cancerous tumor in California with juicing and healthy diet. More and more we are finding out there are ways to heal our bodies that are within our control, but by far prevention is the key to aging well...proper exercise and diet cannot be cheated with quick solutions after years of abuse, the truth will be self evident.0 -
Wow, I'm surprised at some of the backlash comments here with an almost defensive tone. Yes, your dietary intake has a big effect on your skin quality, as does exercise. But your skin is also exposed to the elements. Not all of the products you can use are expensive, and many have proven effects. Since loose skin is such a concern for significant weight loss, I don't know why people would react so negatively to even the idea that you could address that with skin care.
I am religious about sunscreen. I wear a minimum of SPF 30 on my face, even to the office on a cloudy day, and at least 55 if I will actually be outside. In addition, I take: a multivitamin, fish oil with krill, coQ10, zyflamend (which I am a huge fan of), 10K of biotin, and usually additional C and B-12.
After a lot of research, my skin care is a mix of expensive and inexpensive, based on quality. I use an inexpensive Neutrogena retinol night cream, but in the morning I use Obagi C serum. I do have a Clarisonic brush and while I do feel like that helps support absorption of things like serums, I suppose it's more of a fun luxury. Specifically, I think that the skin care is keeping my skin firm and elastic while I am losing weight in my face. I had a double chin which is now gone but my jawline is smooth and tight. I love sugar scrubs, and I frequently make my own, with natural oils like almond, apricot kernel and safflower.
There are numerous benefits to massage, and yes, there are cultures that swear by the whole sauna thing. I think there are a lot of things that support well-being, and look, even if it's just de-stressing, if that lowers your cortisol, doesn't that help support weight loss and general health?
Oh thank you so much for your response! I really appreciate it. It was also surprising for me to read so much negativity about beauty routine supporting healthy life style.
I agree on the Clarisonic, I don't see much difference from it. But I've read so much about the Obagi. Is it safe to use in the morning even with the SPF applied?
I'm afraid that weightloss might cause wrinkles to my face and I don't have any so far, maybe just a bit under my eyes. God blessed me with good skin and I'm trying my best to keep it. You know most people have problems with face skin after weight loss, not just the body. Some do fillers or fat injections to give youth to the face.
And yes, I swear by hamam and sauna. I'll try to find the procedures done in the bains here in Paris, it's expensive for full treatment but its amazing.
I don't believe the negativity is towards having a beauty regime. It is more (for me anyway) about the reliance on expensive beauty products to deliver results that they probably won't. Wrinkles are pretty much there no matter what. You have to prevent them in the first place by wearing a good sunblock EVERY day and drinking plenty of liquids. Once they are there they are there. Apply what you want, it won't get rid of them. Botox works, but wears off after 4-6 months so needs topping up. Personally it's the only treatment I would pay for. All the expensive anti wrinkle creams are a con. You are just feeding into yet another giant industry full of pointless products that we all seem to HAVE to have these days......0 -
It is surprising, isn't it? Not all skin products are "ridiculous", "overpriced", "expensive"...
I use the Obagi C serum first. Usually a serum/moisturizer including peptides and hyaluronic acid over that, and then sunscreen. So it takes me a couple of minutes, but then again my typical makeup is tinted sunscreen/mascara/lip gloss so whatever. I'd rather put the time and money into my skin than just doing damage control with a lot of foundation (NOT that I am anti makeup!) The full Obagi system has you layering it too; I just don't use most of the rest of the stuff (though I do like the C cleanser, I most typically use cold cream or Cetaphil or even those face wipes). There are a lot of products that are expensive/questionable, but I think that a stable vitamin C and retinol are two things that are well demonstrated to support collagen production. I like the clarisonic. My skin is sensitive but as an exfoliant I seem to tolerate it well with the softest brush head. Anyway, I am 45 and my skin looks pretty much exactly like it did when I was 30 (and maybe better) ...just minimal crinkles at eye corners. I am sure that lifestyle is a lot, or even most of that (I don't drink often, I have never smoked, never been a sunbather), but I see no reason not to recognize that you can affect your skin from the outside too. Certainly you can protect it from sun and oxidative damage.
Thanks for sharing your Obagi experience.
I've been using La Mer for a year or so and I really see the result on my dry skin. It calms my skin and gives it necessary nourish. My skin feels thicker when i use it. And I add Missha bb cream SPF 42 on top.
But for the night I use Michael Todd hyaluronic acid C+ serum and I really like it. I add Michael Todd liposome antioxidant moisturizer on top of it or my La Mer if I need extra moisture.
When I'm done with the Michael Todd I wanted to get this Paula's choice set but maybe I'll try some of the Obagi. http://www.paulaschoice.com/shop/collections/Skin-Recovery0 -
I get massages, drink lots of water and considering body wraps now that I'm almost 100 lbs down and have lots of loose skin.
Oh you should've started with it earlier...before you lost so much weight... That's ok, your skin can shrink if you help it. Just really need to have enough moisture and oils for it.
Do you take an oils? Like omega 3-6-9 or evening primrose oil?
Thanks for responding. I need to start taking better vitamins, I was taking some for quite a while, but they exacerbated my anxiety levels with some by-products they put in there. I will look up your vitamins and try them out!0
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