Need to Lose 100 LBS -Robins Thread !

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  • AnnaMW2013
    AnnaMW2013 Posts: 77 Member
    Hi all. I'm still here sort of.... The whole getting back into the swing of the school year thing has been throwing me for a loop. I went to the Dr a month ago for my yearly. We decided to check my blood levels since through out the summer and hard work I only lost 5 pounds. Met with her again today and my blood work is perfect and I've been consistantly maintaining since 09. SO my issue isn't gaining but just stuck at maintaining. So we have decided to give Qsymia a shot. I know pills are usually taboo on here but I really am at the end of my rope. Any one tried it before?
  • skinnyjeanzbound
    skinnyjeanzbound Posts: 3,932 Member
    @anna--I've never heard of Qysmia. I know a lot of people are judgmental about pills or supplements. Personally, I don't see a big problem with them as long as they are part of an overall healthy approach. If you are continuing to work on good nutrition, portion control, and exercise, then you don't run as much risk of having the dreaded "gain back" when you stop taking the pills. The real problem with some of those weight-loss aids is when people either use them in conjunction with very low calorie diets, or continue to eat too many calories and don't learn to change their over all lifestyles. Do what's right for you--if you think this medication will help you jump-start the weight-loss, then use them and don't worry about what other people think.

    @mel--rest days are just as important for overall fitness as exercising. It's also smart to ease into a routine so you don't injure yourself, thus preventing yourself from working out at all.

    @tracy--I've considered doing some sort of co-op like bountiful baskets, but with just me and the DH, I worry a lot of it would spoil. I have a hard time even using up the fruits and vegetables I buy at the grocery store. :ohwell: Have fun at the movies and the fair!

    @gorilla--that does sound like a busy weekend! I forget--what lifting program are you following? Is it NROL? I'm thinking of buying NROLFW--I've heard good things about it.

    @robin--that volunteer position sounds interesting! I hope the parking doesn't cost too much and it leads to a paying position.

    @charlotte-- I can sort of see why they might want medical professionals to use common language; however, I imagine you all have the skills to explain if the patients don't understand. Sheesh, it's not like you are all a bunch of robots! We also have those types of professional development workshops. They want every teacher in the school to use the same language and terminology for skills with the students. The problem with that is then students don't learn the synonyms for those terms. For example, if every teacher in the school uses the term "thesis statement" for a paper's main argument, the students never learn that it could also be called a "contention." Then when they go off to college what will they do when a professor asks them to formulate a "contention" for their papers? I just don't understand why we would willfully limit our students' vocabulary that way. It's double-plus ungood. :wink:

    @kelley & kaye--I also have difficulty sleeping, but I'm afraid to take any type of sleep aid b/c they can sometimes trigger my sleep paralysis, so I just deal with some tired days and try to make up for missed sleep on the weekends. In general, I've found I sleep much better now that I work out regularly, so that's a bonus. :smile:

    @nicole--glad you have gotten to the gym and are overcoming that fear. I think a big part of this process is learning to overcome those fears--it's very liberating! :drinker:

    @kris--My mom always has lots of treats at her house and she offers them the minute I walk in the door. I try not to get annoyed, but it really takes me back to childhood when she would list everything there was to eat in the house the moment I opened the fridge or pantry. I'm not trying to place blame, but I can definitely see how her attitudes toward food and feeding her children as a sign of her love contributed to 3 overweight children. Ironically, my mother is a pretty healthy weight and only really struggled with extra weight after pregnancy. My father also always maintained a pretty good weight b/c he was in the military his whole life. I'm glad it's not an issue for them and my older sister and I have both finally managed to develop healthier relationships with food, but my younger sister is still obese. I know she would like to lose weight, but until she asks for my help I try to just be supportive and set a good example.

    Friday Fitness:
    With the busy week, I only managed to make it to the gym on Monday. I took gunner for an extra long walk today but needed to come home and get all of my stuff together for the wedding and our weekend downtown. Tomorrow we will be up early to drop gunner at the vet for boarding, pick up our friends, and head to Chicago. At least I know we will get in some walking during the day--we are going to Frontera Grill (Rick Bayless' restaurant) which is a short walk from our hotel. Then there will surely be lots of dancing at the reception. On Sunday, we are eating brunch at the hotel before heading back home. At least I should have time for a good, long workout Sunday afternoon. :happy:

    I probably won't check in tomorrow, so I hope everyone has a great weekend! :flowerforyou:
  • Lauriek70
    Lauriek70 Posts: 2,087 Member
    Karen- My Back to School Night runs from 6-8pm with classroom visits starting about 6:30. Our principal limits the time to about 7 minutes for each period. Like you said parents who want to attend will attend. I hope that next year they can start earlier. With regards to meetings during the week my schedule is crazy. Monday- We are now dealing with walk-through ( purpose checking on the school improvement plan-still debatable on its success), Tuesday- Content Area Planning, Wednesday-Interdisciplinary Team Meeting, Thursday Content Area Planning and Friday- Grade level meetings and Profession development. walk-through again.

    tlh-Where is the nest of bees? Is your daughter getting stung inside or outside of the building. That number of stings is very high and strange.

    anna-I have never heard of Qusmia either. I can relate about maintaining for the past year since I have done the same thing. Like Karen said you need to do what is right for you.

    Gorilla- You do have a busy weekend planned. Hope all goes well. When you doing the deload workout remember to work on form. Even those workouts have a purpose and a benefit.

    For all of you that are suffering from sore muscles you can try this remedy: 1 cup of Apple Cider Vinegar in a hot bath. Make sure it is hot but don't burn yourself. My trainer gave me this tip and it does help with muscles soreness.

    This has been a very long and busy week. I did exercise this week but not as much as normal. I am okay with this since I stayed busy with other things.
    I did stick with my plan so that is good.
    exercise goals
    Sunday- Kayaking and biking DONE
    Monday-Trainer workout DONE
    Tuesday- Rest or swim but house hunting house hunting DONE
    Wednesday- meeting after work but may skip it. GYM-Walk meeting skipped
    Thursday-Back to School Night- Rest day DONE
    Friday- Rock climbing DONE
    Saturday- baby shower
  • NAcetoLang
    NAcetoLang Posts: 517 Member
    Skinnyjeanz- WOW! You are a busy woman- I think I burned some calories just reading about your planned activities! (just not sure how I can log that....) :bigsmile:

    Anna- I agree with Skinnyjeanz... if you are not relying on the pill to do all of the work, you could have a positive result, I think. I personally can't take supplements or prescriptions for weightloss any more. That doesn't mean it won't work great for someone else. Just remember to make sure the calories you get are quality calories- fill your plate with nutrient rich foods. I've made the mistake of taking things in the past that curbed my appetite, so I hardly ate.... when I ate, it was junk. Needless to say, I was miserable. You will do great! We are cheering you on! :drinker:

    Melwillbe- I hear ya! It was in the 80s and 90s most of the week here, and suddenly it is 50 or 60 degrees.. it's snuggle in with soup weather!

    Tlh0407- You are sooo lucky! We have so many critters, we can't tell them apart!

    Gorilla- Thanks! I hope to someday hit that 81 lb mark and look back, laughing at my wimpy nature haha. I miss being a parent to a football kiddo! Bundling up for the games and practices, hot coffee, and pep talks.. My son is skipping football this year (double concussion last year), but is going to try his hand at basketball. I hope it is just as fun.

    RobinsEgg- I am in Western Washington State... near Seattle. Nutria shouldn't be in this neck of the woods... but there are rumors (maybe urban legends) of them being sighted as far North from their natural habitat (S. America I think)... in New York. I'm sticking with beavers.... they MUST be beavers. Someone else said river otters... could be. An art gallery would be SO cool to work at- even volunteering... so many interesting people. No parking would be troublesome... but is it too late in the evening to enjoy walking to and from your car? Can you log it? :happy:

    Friday fitness- Well, I did not go to the gym today, but plan on going on a nice walk tomorrow - might even hit the gym... but if I don't make the gym tomorrow, I will go on Sunday. I did something wrong, I think, because my shoulder has a "twinge" of pain. I may have to bite the bullet and join the gym AND hire a trainer.... that way I can be sure I am doing things right.
  • kinnurse0754
    kinnurse0754 Posts: 565 Member
    Hi All, Just a quick checkin as I'm at work and kind of busy. Working nights all w/e, doesn't leave me with much time or energy for planing any fitness. I'm run off my feet at work and then I go home and sleep. Hope everyone has a great w/e. Enjoy the last bits of nice weather before fall hits too hard. Charlotte
  • grandmakaye44
    grandmakaye44 Posts: 1,205 Member
    Well, its been an interesting week for me. I have eaten back some or all of my exercise credit nearly everyday. I expect my weight loss to go slower as I get closer to goal. Maybe my eating is a self-fulfilling prophecy. I certainly am not going to lose very fast if I keep eating all of my execise credits.
    I don't take any meds for sleep. My dr. won't prescribe anything. Whenever I go to him, he just congratulates me for using my CPAP every day, and tells me that if I lived in OR he would have to take my driver's license because I am sleep deprived. I don't feel like he has really done anything to get to the bottom of the problem. I am going to try very diligently to avoid any screen time for 1 hour before bedtime for awhile and see if that helps. It didn't last night, but I am willing to give it some time. We don't have a TV in the bedroom, but I am a news junkie and always feel like I need to watch the news before I go to bed.
    We have quite a lightning show going on here this evening. I hope we get some rain out of it.
    Have a good night. Onward and downward. Kaye
  • karenleona
    karenleona Posts: 3,959 Member
    did not accomplish a single thing today and did not stay on track I have a terrible time when i am home alone. Hoping to get caught up in yard work tomorrow
  • susan2396
    susan2396 Posts: 794 Member
    Well, its been an interesting week for me. I have eaten back some or all of my exercise credit nearly everyday. I expect my weight loss to go slower as I get closer to goal. Maybe my eating is a self-fulfilling prophecy. I certainly am not going to lose very fast if I keep eating all of my execise credits.
    I don't take any meds for sleep. My dr. won't prescribe anything. Whenever I go to him, he just congratulates me for using my CPAP every day, and tells me that if I lived in OR he would have to take my driver's license because I am sleep deprived. I don't feel like he has really done anything to get to the bottom of the problem. I am going to try very diligently to avoid any screen time for 1 hour before bedtime for awhile and see if that helps. It didn't last night, but I am willing to give it some time. We don't have a TV in the bedroom, but I am a news junkie and always feel like I need to watch the news before I go to bed.
    We have quite a lightning show going on here this evening. I hope we get some rain out of it.
    Have a good night. Onward and downward. Kaye

    Kaye - I take melatonin as well like Kelly mentioned. It's over the counter so you don't need a prescription. It's basically a natural sleep aid, which is why I prefer it. I was taking things like Advil PM, but stepped away to lean more towards a natural ingredient. I sleep pretty soundly every night (for the most part). I normally find it in the health section of my grocery store. You might give that a try and see what you think.
  • susan2396
    susan2396 Posts: 794 Member
    I'm officially home - thank goodness!! Cyrus couldn't stop hugging me, which I totally loved. It's so good to be home. This was a super long week. While on the business sense it was long, I'm so proud of my week. Today was a long day, but did get in quite a bit of walking between a plant tour and 3 airports. I need to load up on the water tomorrow though. Lunch and dinner out so the sodium today was off the charts. Plus, I think exercise has become a habit again. I'm already looking at tomorrow and figuring out when I'm going to work out whether it's a nice walk outside or the gym. Either way I'm moving!!!
  • Melwillbehealthy
    Melwillbehealthy Posts: 894 Member
    Sat. Success: well, it's been exactly one week since I've been back. I've had challenges and successes, and need to weigh myself. the scale scares me. Going to get on my bike and ride over to the park to meet my daughter, who'se there for a local event. It's within walking distance, but want to improve my biking skills. Busy day today, but planned my food early and going to try to get to the gym late this afternoon. Hubby is draining our outdoor hot tub for the winter as the weather has changed.
  • alice1128
    alice1128 Posts: 9 Member
    Hello Everyone! This looks like a great board to join if I may. I'm re-starting my weight loss journey and would like to lose approx 80 lbs. I'm meeting some of my family in Whistler the 1st week of February 2014 and would like to lose half of it by then. Do you think this is doable?
  • RobinsEgg
    RobinsEgg Posts: 3,702 Member
    Alice - welcome ! You've found a great community for support. So your'e thinking about trying to lose 40 pounds by Feb. - I can't give you any guarantees of that being totally possible. Some people lose weight much faster than others. If you hit your diet and exercise goals very accurately without fail, it might be possible. I say might. I can say that you can lose 1-2 lbs a week successfully without having to struggle or go hungry and that might make you a happier person in the long run. It all depends on what type of person you are, what kind of personal discipline you can muster. My advice is to go back and read through all these pages from page 1 - somewhere in here we have discussed tips for beginners and that will be helpful for you. Log all your food, even when you cheat and go over. If you don't know the calories in some foods at least estimate the calories, always log your foods. You need to develop that habit. And get some exercise each day.

    Well, friends, I DID get the volunteer position at the Art Gallery (www.theKaneko.org) and it has free parking for its employees so I don't have to hassle with parking downtown. Yippee! I will be working Tues - Weds - Thurs from noon to 4 pm. as a greeter and receptionist and I'll cover the phones during their weekly staff meetings and when they go to lunch. I'll have lots of time to read at my greeter's table as I have to just sit there and wait for people to come in. During exhibits I may sit in another area where there is art work and do the same thing. Its going to be lovely.
  • RobinsEgg
    RobinsEgg Posts: 3,702 Member
    Hi all. I'm still here sort of.... The whole getting back into the swing of the school year thing has been throwing me for a loop. I went to the Dr a month ago for my yearly. We decided to check my blood levels since through out the summer and hard work I only lost 5 pounds. Met with her again today and my blood work is perfect and I've been consistantly maintaining since 09. SO my issue isn't gaining but just stuck at maintaining. So we have decided to give Qsymia a shot. I know pills are usually taboo on here but I really am at the end of my rope. Any one tried it before?

    Don't worry about trying a medication - or what people think! I googled Qsymia and it is comprised of 2 component drugs and one of them (topiramate) happens to be one I take for migraines and I've been on it for over 20 years without problems (and no effect on my weight)

    Using something like this is only a tool - you have to do all the other steps the same way you have been doing them. Eating correctly, getting the right amount of protein, drinking your water, making sure you don't drop your calories way low, don't get into OVER-exercising, and you will do just fine.

    It does boil down to creating a caloric deficit. A 5 pound loss over the summer is not that bad, just something that could be improved upon.
  • Question for those who may have taken up jogging/running at some point - I know it's different for everyone, but is there a prescribed BMI or ballpark # for starting up? Although I've never stopped biking, zumba, dancing and walking, I haven't done any running in a VERY long time which became ultra evident after making a base hit yesterday while playing at the park with my 9 year old. I ran 10 feet and I thought I was going to die (in a way that sounds funnier than it felt - not good). I don't want to injure my knees, but I do want to be able to run - fast-ish at some point. Advice? Thank you!
  • RobinsEgg
    RobinsEgg Posts: 3,702 Member
    Welcome Elena - I'm not a runner, but I'm sure one of the runners here will post an answer to your question today.

    To All - here is one of the MOST INSPIRATIONAL POSTS I HAVE EVER SEEN:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1097514-1-year-130-pounds-and-a-belt

    this lady said she didn't have the strength to make it one day at a time, she had to struggle with one meal at a time. Read her story, its amazing!
  • karenleona
    karenleona Posts: 3,959 Member
    seriously trying to stop procrastinating and get outside and do something.....anything......
  • MyM0wM0w
    MyM0wM0w Posts: 2,008 Member
    Question for those who may have taken up jogging/running at some point - I know it's different for everyone, but is there a prescribed BMI or ballpark # for starting up? Although I've never stopped biking, zumba, dancing and walking, I haven't done any running in a VERY long time which became ultra evident after making a base hit yesterday while playing at the park with my 9 year old. I ran 10 feet and I thought I was going to die (in a way that sounds funnier than it felt - not good). I don't want to injure my knees, but I do want to be able to run - fast-ish at some point. Advice? Thank you!

    Get get outside and walk...and walk.. and walk. When you feel ready run for 10 seconds. Next time run for 15 seconds. Time after than run for 20 seconds.

    Just get out and do SOMETHING!:wink:
  • NAcetoLang
    NAcetoLang Posts: 517 Member
    I got my Fitbit! Yay!!! Happy Saturday to all. Today could be a challenge, as there is a birthday party/ bbq for a friend's son. I am not going to arrive hungry, and I am going to watch my portions. Wish me luck!
  • grandmakaye44
    grandmakaye44 Posts: 1,205 Member
    Saturday success: I went thrift store shopping today for some casual clothes for the winter. I also needed a jacket as I didn't have one that fit. It was fun to have so many choices and I have bolstered my wardrobe considerably. Also a fun day with my youngest daughter. We had lunch at TGIFriday and did well on calories. Have a fun weekend.
    Onward and downward. Kaye
  • RobinsEgg
    RobinsEgg Posts: 3,702 Member
    seriously trying to stop procrastinating and get outside and do something.....anything......

    Karen - I was having the same problem - and I really thought I should go for a walk, but something in me didn't want to walk the regular route. So I got in the car and started driving and ended up at a place called Heron Haven which only has a path 1/2 mile long, but there's a chance of seeing birds.

    Well, long story short there was a Nature display going on of Raptor birds and I got to see up close a peregrine, a saw-whet owl, a harrier hawk, another hawk and another HUGE owl, who's name I forgot. It was a tremendous treat and I'm so glad I left the house when I did......I hope you feel better and get out tomorrow.to sunshine and butterflies...HUGS :flowerforyou:
  • Lauriek70
    Lauriek70 Posts: 2,087 Member
    Alice- I don't know if losing 40 lbs in 6 months is doable since it depends on a variety of factors. What I do know is that if you get yourself moving, log your food, exercise you will have a fighting chance of meeting your goal. In addition, your body shape will change as you lose the weight and people will notice. Believe that you can do it and aim high to reach that goal. Take your measurements as well since you may see those change faster than the scale.

    Nicole- Join the gym and work with a trainer for a while. You will be amazed at how helpful they can be. In addition, the support they provide in learning how to use the equipment correctly is valuable. They can also be a great support system for you as well. I have also enjoyed meeting with my trainer (any of them) because it gave me someone to workout with and discuss ideas.

    Kinnurse- You must walk miles at work every weekend. Thank you for caring for all your patients especially overnight as that is hard time to deal with sick people. I know my Dad's neuropathy (major feet burning) gets worse at night.

    Susan- Welcome home. You did an awesome job on your business trip.

    Robin- thanks for posting the link. The story was inspiring.

    Elana- I agree with Mowmow- Start slow with a walk and gradually pick up the pace until you are walking quickly almost at a jog. Then jog a little then drop back to a brisk walk. You can slow down your walk as well depending on how you feel. Starting with a 5 second run and gradually increasing it is a good plan. This will also help you pace yourself as you learn to run.

    Survived my very busy week including the baby shower for my SIL. Honestly, I ate out to many times this week and did not exercise nearly enough but it will be okay. Tomorrow, I will be biking over 20 miles with a friend so I will make up for some of those rest days this week. Then in the afternoon, I will be helping my brother unload some bags of top soil so I will also get in an upper body workout. I have a feeling that I will be running with my trainer on Monday so it should be an interesting workout. Next week, I am planning to get back on track with a regular workout schedule and start building intensity again. I have missed being at the gym this week.
  • susan2396
    susan2396 Posts: 794 Member
    Saturday Success: Where do I begin? I've posted it earlier, but this was a huge win for me. Business trip Monday thru Friday. Lunch/dinner out all week. Worked out 4 days in the fitness center. Worked my way up to 30 minutes on the elliptical. The scale finally moved again and I lost 2 lbs. I would say this week was a success. Pushing hard for another win next week.

    @ Robin - Thanks for the link. She has quite a story and it truly shows that battle even with every bite we take. She's truly an inspiration. Nice walk today. Even though it was a small path you learned so much. Plus, congrats on the gallery job and free parking to boot. Good for you!

    @ Alice - I try to set short and long term goals, but always keep them fluid because so much can happen in life. A short term is focusing on losing 5-8 lbs in September. Long term is getting into Onederland by mid-April. If I make my monthly goals, I should hit the long term goal. My son and I are going on a cruise for Spring Break. They are some excursions I want to do with him, but I did to be under a certain weight. Baby steps.

    @ Nicole - Let me know how you like your FitBit. I'm wearing one now, but not quite using it like I should. It is very interesting to see my steps, miles and calories though. You think you walk a lot, but to see the real number is an eye opener. Keep us posted!

    @ Elaina - I did five 5K's last year, but I did the walk/run thing. I would run 30 seconds then walk. Eventually I would increase my running.with each race. I'm still pretty slow and if I walk then I walk. With a nice pace, you can get a good workout and it's much easier on our knees too.

    @ Laurie - Enjoy the ride tomorrow.

    @ Kaye - Congrats on the new clothes!! It sounds like a fun day with your daughter.
  • NAcetoLang
    NAcetoLang Posts: 517 Member
    Luckily- it wasn't a bbq... they had do it yourself tacos, so I didn't go nuts. Still went over on my calories, but not by a ton.

    Oh! My Fitbit thing is http://www.fitbit.com/user/27TR4Z if anyone wants to friend me on there. I don't completely understand how it works with MFP, but I will figure it out eventually :)

    Happy Saturday to all!:drinker:
  • kinnurse0754
    kinnurse0754 Posts: 565 Member
    :drinker: :drinker: :drinker: Hi All, Happy Saturday! Hope you're all having a great w/e. My success is a small one, but I'm happy. I put on a uniform top tonight that I haven't been comfortable wearing for months cause it was just too tight. Even though I haven't lost a lot of weight yet, it seems to be enough as the top went on much easier. Its amazing how a few pounds can make such a difference.

    Robin - Congrats on getting the volunteer position. Sounds like it will be a lot of fun and really, a great way to meet people. Hope you enjoy the change. Also, thank you for posting that womans story. It was amazing to see the difference. She looks like a new woman.

    Susan - You made traveling look so easy. Congrats on such a successful trip and week.

    Lauriek - Ok, I'm tired just reading about everything you're going to fit into one day. Good for you to be able to do so much. Also, thanks for the kind words about my job. I'm proud of the fact that after almost 40 years I still love being a nurse. Its in the blood.

    GrandmaKaye -Congrats on the successful shopping spree. I can't wait to be able to go through my closet and get rid of some things and replace them with much smaller ones.I've got a long way to go, but I'm going to enjoy it when it happens.

    Have a wonderful Sunday all and don't forget to take some water with you when you're out walking, running or biking. :drinker: :drinker: :drinker: Charlotte
  • kah68
    kah68 Posts: 1,515 Member
    Sorry I didn't make it by here yesterday. Went to the gym for a long workout in the morning, had an impromptu lunch invite then had lots of running around to do. Didn't have much downtime.

    @Anna~I agree with what others have said re diet pills. But something to add is that medication contains phentermine, which is a drug known to cause pulmonary hypertension among other side effects. That drug also has habit forming tendencies. I'm not a huge advocate for diet pills; however, if you are really struggling and think it will help you while maintaining healthy choices it may be the right thing for you - short term. Good luck with it, I hope you get the results you're looking for. :happy:

    @Elena~Running is one of those things that you start out doing slowly. If you have a smart phone, you could download an app for the C25K running program - it gets you from the couch to running a 5K in just a few months. The program is self-paced so you can repeat days or weeks as long as you need to until you feel comfortable to move onto the next stage of the program. All you can do is start out slow, putting some jogging into a walking routine - run for 15 seconds, a few times and build your way up - same premise at the C25K program. Good luck! I :love: running!

    @Nicole~You'll figure out the Fitbit, MFP does work with the Fitbit site - just remember to log all your food/exercise here instead of on the Fitbit site. I sent you a friend request.

    @Charlotte~Great NSV with the smaller scubs!

    @Robin~Hooray on the volunteer position!

    @Susan~You made such healthy choices on your trip, and a 2# loss for the win. Great week!

    Need to get the day started and have session with my trainer late morning.

    Have a great day!
  • RobinsEgg
    RobinsEgg Posts: 3,702 Member
    Skinny - was it you who said you were looking into buying NROLW - I bought it and thought it a waste of money! Check it out from a library first ! I don't think it was that helpful at all. I am following plans I found on youtube and here on MFP. NROLW did not add one iota of information to me that I found helpful in my case.
  • Thank you! The thread was great and I will try a short run after a walk... I'll let you know how it goes!
  • Thank you - that is very helpful. Having a 5 k as a goal is a good idea even if I have to walk some of it. I walk quite a bit, but never to to point of a good sweat. I'll try the 30 second run from time to time.
  • Thank you, Kah - I will try it!
  • karenleona
    karenleona Posts: 3,959 Member
    actually managed to get outside yesterday and get lots of work done.......more of the same today before the rain starts