Saying No to Vaccinations
dylanafghjkl
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I just saw in the newest groups tab that someone has started a group for "saying no to the flu shot".
I clicked on a link that they had posted for reasons not to get vaccinated and it was "IF YOU GET VACCINATED YOU MIGHT DIE!!!" re-written 10 times.
Why?
WHY?
WHYYYYYY?
I just can't fathom the type of people that are against vaccinations??????
There can be complications during much more mundane things like walking down the street.
Ugh. Whatever. There's probably a society for "Americans Against Walking".
I clicked on a link that they had posted for reasons not to get vaccinated and it was "IF YOU GET VACCINATED YOU MIGHT DIE!!!" re-written 10 times.
Why?
WHY?
WHYYYYYY?
I just can't fathom the type of people that are against vaccinations??????
There can be complications during much more mundane things like walking down the street.
Ugh. Whatever. There's probably a society for "Americans Against Walking".
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I don't know
But I've had the flu vaccination every year for the past 5, generally as soon as the flu season hits I hit the floor, since getting the flu shot I've come out unscathed every season except this one, but I would argue it was a strain that wasn't covered in this vaccination.
I work in a high risk job as well as in a high risk family for these types of things (I'm an emergency service worker and my wife is a primary school teacher, I think the best breeding places for disease ? Primary school) and if I don't get vaccinated I think I would be home sick more often than I'm at work.
But then again to my hippy friends I'm a bad parent as my kids are all up to date for all their vaccinations, I know there is a lot of talk about kids becoming Autistic after their vaccinations and I read up quite a bit before I took my eldest for all his, and I honustly dont think these claims are sustanicated0 -
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This is the most retarded thing ever. I saw it a few minutes ago and was shocked as well.0
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But then again to my hippy friends I'm a bad parent as my kids are all up to date for all their vaccinations, I know there is a lot of talk about kids becoming Autistic after their vaccinations and I read up quite a bit before I took my eldest for all his, and I honustly dont think these claims are sustanicated
They disproved that ridiculous claim already, by the way!0 -
I totally read this topic as "Saying no to Vacations" :O
But yeah, I think Jenny McCarthy has enough egg on her face for any other parents wanting to say no to vaccinations.0 -
Love this!0 -
They need to make a vaccination for stupid.0
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I have nursed children with whooping cough - horrible disease; I am a family genealogist and so many children in my family history died of preventable diseases whilst just little - measles, etc - before vaccinations became available. Vaccination works to stop these diseases. If someone really doesn't want to do it, then OK, but don't push it onto others. I worked at a school and we had a list of all the kids who weren't immunised - if anyone got measles they had to be excluded from school, day care, etc.
Autism is a worry, but I haven't read enough to know if it is linked to / proven to be linked to getting your kids immunised.
I get the flu shot every year.0 -
They need to make a vaccination for stupid.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:0 -
Maybe they are sad that small pox was eradicated or children are no longer crippled by polio?0
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And as for "IF YOU GET VACCINATED YOU MIGHT DIE!!!"
well if you wake up in the morning you might die - in fact we all will one day - so do we "blame" our death on whatever was happening at the time??0 -
I don't know, I think my son either became autistic after the MMR vaccine, or during pregnancy when I worked as a correctional officer. While working the overnight shift and sometimes having to work doubles, I would only bring enough food from home for one shift and was not expecting to have to pull a double. Often times, I would get so hungry while working the overnight shift that I had to eat a sack lunch sometimes, that they would prepare for the inmates leaving for work. The sack lunch contained the worst kinds of foods that the average person would not eat. There was an apple and a packet of peanut butter, and some bologna with two slices of bread. I remember rinsing the bologna off real good and putting it in the microwave till it popped and eating the non-organic, highly pesticide-filled red apple that came with it, along with peanut butter on the top. My other theory for my son coming up autistic is that during my pregnancy, I had a threatened miscarriage with him and I had to be rushed to the emergency room because I was bleeding. He turned out to be okay, but maybe it caused brain damage that caused his autism. Maybe, I am secretly half-autistic myself, since I am extremely shy in person, and socially awkward and I passed on a gene to him. I don't know. However, I was vaccinated as a child, and although I consider myself kind of weird, I turned out fine. I have gotten the flu vaccine for him and myself and we have never gotten the flu. But a lot of my neighbors told me to stop vaccinating, since my son was autistic. I was like, "What difference does it make, he already has autism, so what is not vaccinating him going to prevent or prove?"0
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I don't know, I think my son either became autistic after the MMR vaccine, or during pregnancy when I worked as a correctional officer. While working the overnight shift and sometimes having to work doubles, I would only bring enough food from home for one shift and was not expecting to have to pull a double. Often times, I would get so hungry while working the overnight shift that I had to eat a sack lunch sometimes, that they would prepare for the inmates leaving for work. The sack lunch contained the worst kinds of foods that the average person would not eat. There was an apple and a packet of peanut butter, and some bologna with two slices of bread. I remember rinsing the bologna off real good and putting it in the microwave till it popped and eating the non-organic, highly pesticide-filled red apple that came with it, along with peanut butter on the top. My other theory for my son coming up autistic is that during my pregnancy, I had a threatened miscarriage with him and I had to be rushed to the emergency room because I was bleeding. He turned out to be okay, but maybe it caused brain damage that caused his autism. Maybe, I am secretly half-autistic myself, since I am extremely shy in person, and socially awkward and I passed on a gene to him. I don't know. However, I was vaccinated as a child, and although I consider myself kind of weird, I turned out fine. I have gotten the flu vaccine for him and myself and we have never gotten the flu. But a lot of my neighbors told me to stop vaccinating, since my son was autistic. I was like, "What difference does it make, he already has autism, so what is not vaccinating him going to prevent or prove?"
cool story bro0 -
I have nursed children with whooping cough - horrible disease; I am a family genealogist and so many children in my family history died of preventable diseases whilst just little - measles, etc - before vaccinations became available. Vaccination works to stop these diseases. If someone really doesn't want to do it, then OK, but don't push it onto others. I worked at a school and we had a list of all the kids who weren't immunised - if anyone got measles they had to be excluded from school, day care, etc.
Autism is a worry, but I haven't read enough to know if it is linked to / proven to be linked to getting your kids immunised.
I get the flu shot every year.
Autism has never been linked to any vaccine. That whole claim was made up by Andrew Wakefield when he did bogus research that had ties to a lawsuit against the MMR vaccine (the lawyers on that case had paid him off, basically).0 -
I agree, the fear mongering on both sides is ridiculous.
Whether you get the shot or not, your decision should be based on science, not just what you read on the internet.0 -
I don't know, I think my son either became autistic after the MMR vaccine, or during pregnancy when I worked as a correctional officer. While working the overnight shift and sometimes having to work doubles, I would only bring enough food from home for one shift and was not expecting to have to pull a double. Often times, I would get so hungry while working the overnight shift that I had to eat a sack lunch sometimes, that they would prepare for the inmates leaving for work. The sack lunch contained the worst kinds of foods that the average person would not eat. There was an apple and a packet of peanut butter, and some bologna with two slices of bread. I remember rinsing the bologna off real good and putting it in the microwave till it popped and eating the non-organic, highly pesticide-filled red apple that came with it, along with peanut butter on the top. My other theory for my son coming up autistic is that during my pregnancy, I had a threatened miscarriage with him and I had to be rushed to the emergency room because I was bleeding. He turned out to be okay, but maybe it caused brain damage that caused his autism. Maybe, I am secretly half-autistic myself, since I am extremely shy in person, and socially awkward and I passed on a gene to him. I don't know. However, I was vaccinated as a child, and although I consider myself kind of weird, I turned out fine. I have gotten the flu vaccine for him and myself and we have never gotten the flu. But a lot of my neighbors told me to stop vaccinating, since my son was autistic. I was like, "What difference does it make, he already has autism, so what is not vaccinating him going to prevent or prove?"
Your sons autism isn't the result of vaccinations, bologna, or the apple. I am sorry, but it was another reason.0 -
Anti-vaxxers need a quick kick in the pants. All that misinformation being spread around is actually causing harm. There have been an alarming number of outbreaks of these "eradicated" diseases that should not be occurring in a vaccinated population! Those that truly can not have a vaccine for medical reasons are at an increased risk because of the decreasing herd immunity. Innocent people are getting sick and risking death because some high and mighty parents think they know better than the medical community. It makes me sick!0
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Andrew Wakefield who started touting MMR as cause of autism, has been completely discredited. The latest research in relation to autism indicates that genetics and events during pregnacy are factors.
I say yes to vacciniations and herd immunity.0 -
I don't know, I think my son either became autistic after the MMR vaccine, or during pregnancy when I worked as a correctional officer. While working the overnight shift and sometimes having to work doubles, I would only bring enough food from home for one shift and was not expecting to have to pull a double. Often times, I would get so hungry while working the overnight shift that I had to eat a sack lunch sometimes, that they would prepare for the inmates leaving for work. The sack lunch contained the worst kinds of foods that the average person would not eat. There was an apple and a packet of peanut butter, and some bologna with two slices of bread. I remember rinsing the bologna off real good and putting it in the microwave till it popped and eating the non-organic, highly pesticide-filled red apple that came with it, along with peanut butter on the top. My other theory for my son coming up autistic is that during my pregnancy, I had a threatened miscarriage with him and I had to be rushed to the emergency room because I was bleeding. He turned out to be okay, but maybe it caused brain damage that caused his autism. Maybe, I am secretly half-autistic myself, since I am extremely shy in person, and socially awkward and I passed on a gene to him. I don't know. However, I was vaccinated as a child, and although I consider myself kind of weird, I turned out fine. I have gotten the flu vaccine for him and myself and we have never gotten the flu. But a lot of my neighbors told me to stop vaccinating, since my son was autistic. I was like, "What difference does it make, he already has autism, so what is not vaccinating him going to prevent or prove?"
I'm so sorry that your son is autistic, but don't blame yourself! There is absolutely zero indication that it's linked to vaccines, food, or pesticides. The vaccine link has been THOROUGHLY disproven, and the scientist who claimed the link has been discredited over and over. I'm in med school so I've learned a lot about this. There is some recent suggestion that it may be linked to the mother getting an infection or having some kind of immune response while carrying the baby, although it's just an observed trend at this point, definitely no proof of causation. Don't worry about what you could have done differently, keep getting him vaccinated to protect him from further harm, and print out a scientific article or two to silence your crazy neighbors0 -
I say yes to vacciniations and herd immunity.
YES, YES, YES!0 -
And let's say for giggles that vaccines cause autism. It seems the anti vaxxers would rather their kid risk a terrible illness and die, rather than have autism but still be alive? Boggles my brains.0
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Darwin should eventually sort these people out. Sad for their kids though.0
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I don't know, I think my son either became autistic after the MMR vaccine, or during pregnancy when I worked as a correctional officer. While working the overnight shift and sometimes having to work doubles, I would only bring enough food from home for one shift and was not expecting to have to pull a double. Often times, I would get so hungry while working the overnight shift that I had to eat a sack lunch sometimes, that they would prepare for the inmates leaving for work. The sack lunch contained the worst kinds of foods that the average person would not eat. There was an apple and a packet of peanut butter, and some bologna with two slices of bread. I remember rinsing the bologna off real good and putting it in the microwave till it popped and eating the non-organic, highly pesticide-filled red apple that came with it, along with peanut butter on the top. My other theory for my son coming up autistic is that during my pregnancy, I had a threatened miscarriage with him and I had to be rushed to the emergency room because I was bleeding. He turned out to be okay, but maybe it caused brain damage that caused his autism. Maybe, I am secretly half-autistic myself, since I am extremely shy in person, and socially awkward and I passed on a gene to him. I don't know. However, I was vaccinated as a child, and although I consider myself kind of weird, I turned out fine. I have gotten the flu vaccine for him and myself and we have never gotten the flu. But a lot of my neighbors told me to stop vaccinating, since my son was autistic. I was like, "What difference does it make, he already has autism, so what is not vaccinating him going to prevent or prove?"
Your sons autism isn't the result of vaccinations, bologna, or the apple. I am sorry, but it was another reason.
if processed meat caused autism I'm pretty sure my cat would be autistic by now0 -
people are idiots not to vaccinate their kids.0
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Stupid is as stupid does.0
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And let's say for giggles that vaccines cause autism. It seems the anti vaxxers would rather their kid risk a terrible illness and die, rather than have autism but still be alive? Boggles my brains.
Well despite the fact that I am a strong advocate for vaccines, I do see a bit of a problem with this logic. Vaccines nowadays target relatively rare diseases (rare BECAUSE of the vaccines and the crowd immunity they imparted). So the risk to catch them is rather minimal, especially in developed countries.
If autism WERE caused by vaccines, we'd have a really tough decision on our hands as a society, but thankfully, it is not.0 -
Vaccines are like reely stupid. Never had one in my life. I don't need to take that crep0
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Vaccines are like reely stupid. Never had one in my life. I don't need to take that crep
Yes, your impeccable English skills really back that statement up.0 -
Wow, I was ready to come in here guns-a-blazin' and was pleasantly surprised that you guys are all pretty much totally awesome and not buying into the anti-vax propaganda!0
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I don't know, I think my son either became autistic after the MMR vaccine, or during pregnancy when I worked as a correctional officer. While working the overnight shift and sometimes having to work doubles, I would only bring enough food from home for one shift and was not expecting to have to pull a double. Often times, I would get so hungry while working the overnight shift that I had to eat a sack lunch sometimes, that they would prepare for the inmates leaving for work. The sack lunch contained the worst kinds of foods that the average person would not eat. There was an apple and a packet of peanut butter, and some bologna with two slices of bread. I remember rinsing the bologna off real good and putting it in the microwave till it popped and eating the non-organic, highly pesticide-filled red apple that came with it, along with peanut butter on the top. My other theory for my son coming up autistic is that during my pregnancy, I had a threatened miscarriage with him and I had to be rushed to the emergency room because I was bleeding. He turned out to be okay, but maybe it caused brain damage that caused his autism. Maybe, I am secretly half-autistic myself, since I am extremely shy in person, and socially awkward and I passed on a gene to him. I don't know. However, I was vaccinated as a child, and although I consider myself kind of weird, I turned out fine. I have gotten the flu vaccine for him and myself and we have never gotten the flu. But a lot of my neighbors told me to stop vaccinating, since my son was autistic. I was like, "What difference does it make, he already has autism, so what is not vaccinating him going to prevent or prove?"0
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