Saying No to Vaccinations

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  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    Do you know when you get the flu shot they are actually injecting the virus into you, and you get sick.

    Yes. We learned this in elementary school :noway:
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Ya ok Bud!
    And you are the scientist.

    And you are? :laugh:

    No, I'm just someone who is really smart, reads a lot, and understands how to use logic.
  • SkaterGirl704
    SkaterGirl704 Posts: 37 Member
    I better not say anymore. I smell jealous *****es. Wow. I'm out!
  • onezeronine
    onezeronine Posts: 37 Member
    Do you know when you get the flu shot they are actually injecting the virus into you, and you get sick.
    Everybody in my family got it, except me. Once you get it you always have to. They all get the flu, I
    only get the flu like once every 5 years. People should let their bodies fight viruses off naturally, not
    depend on shots.

    There are several kinds of flu vaccines. Those that are injected are actually inactivated virus (that is, they're dead) and cannot give you the flu. The flu shot actually confers better immunity than that which is conferred by getting the virus and then fighting it off, because the flu shot gives you protection against three strains at once, whereas if you contract the flu, you're only getting immunity for that ONE strain. The flu vaccination obviously isn't perfect - it doesn't protect against every possible strain of the flu, but it does significantly decrease morbidity and mortality in all populations, particularly those at high risk (the elderly and very young).
  • theoriginaljayne
    theoriginaljayne Posts: 559 Member
    People should let their bodies fight viruses off naturally, not depend on shots.

    Yeah, fighting off polio naturally worked out really well for people. And kids who die from whooping cough just aren't fighting it off hard enough, I suppose? *eye roll*
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    I better not say anymore. I smell jealous *****es. Wow. I'm out!

    Jealous? Of...what? :laugh:
  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    I better not say anymore. I smell jealous *****es. Wow. I'm out!

    That's your upper lip, sweetie. Peace out.
  • 4homer
    4homer Posts: 457 Member
    I better not say anymore. I smell jealous *****es. Wow. I'm out!
    he is jelous of your lack of information???
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    I better not say anymore. I smell jealous *****es. Wow. I'm out!

    sorry, that's skanky ***** you smell and it's me.
  • onezeronine
    onezeronine Posts: 37 Member
    I better not say anymore. I smell jealous *****es. Wow. I'm out!

    Nobody's jealous. It's just very clear that you are misinformed, and that's dangerous, because you seem to be running around spouting off completely bull**** information. Imagine that you convince a parent, via the internet, not to vaccinate their kid, and their kid contracts whooping cough and dies. How crappy would you feel? It's not that crazy of a scenario - whooping cough outbreaks are happening all over the place. Measles is the latest I'm hearing about. Measles is straight up frightening. Please be better-educated before you kill somebody.
  • LishLash79
    LishLash79 Posts: 562 Member
    I better not say anymore. I smell jealous *****es. Wow. I'm out!

    Jealous? Of...what? :laugh:

    I super jeolous of Whierd, look how friggen smart he is ;) just look at the guy..

    seriously your posts are the best
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    Jealous that I never been fat in my life. I only have 10 lbs to lose. I never weighed over 110 in my life.
    Oh I know yup! Thank God I have and was blessed with good genes. Ba bye! Unless somebody wants me to tell fat jokes LMFAOI

    please do, I would absolutely love to hear fat jokes!
  • onezeronine
    onezeronine Posts: 37 Member
    Jealous that I never been fat in my life. I only have 10 lbs to lose. I never weighed over 110 in my life.
    Oh I know yup! Thank God I have and was blessed with good genes. Ba bye! Unless somebody wants me to tell fat jokes LMFAOI

    I thought we were talking about vaccinations, not fat people. Were you dropped on the head as a child? I met somebody like you once, someone who just sort of went from thought to thought to thought without making any real connections between them. Makes it tough to carry on a conversation.
  • SkaterGirl704
    SkaterGirl704 Posts: 37 Member
    Just confirmed on you tube there is a doctor saying this and it was on the news. There were no diesases in North America
    till the white men invaded. The natives were healthy and lived natural. So they needed vaccines then? But check you tube a doctor is saying what I said. So go argue with the doctors.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Jealous that I never been fat in my life. I only have 10 lbs to lose. I never weighed over 110 in my life.
    Oh I know yup! Thank God I have and was blessed with good genes. Ba bye! Unless somebody wants me to tell fat jokes LMFAOI

    Oh my gosh, I am dying over here!!!

    Darlin', people can lose weight but you cannot gain intelligence. So you were shorted a bit in terms of genes. :laugh:
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Just confirmed on you tube there is a doctor saying this and it was on the news. There were no diesases in North America
    till the white men invaded. The natives were healthy and lived natural. So they needed vaccines then? But check you tube a doctor is saying what I said. So go argue with the doctors.

    Oh yeah? Youtube is a legit source of information!! We had all better heed your words!

    I hear that the natives were Immortal back then too!
  • 4homer
    4homer Posts: 457 Member
    Jealous that I never been fat in my life. I only have 10 lbs to lose. I never weighed over 110 in my life.
    Oh I know yup! Thank God I have and was blessed with good genes. Ba bye! Unless somebody wants me to tell fat jokes LMFAOI
    A) I thought you were bye bye the first time so hey your liar awesome B)trying to put down others for being fat because you have no idea what your talking about and have been shown how ignorant you are proves just how pathetic you are.
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    Just confirmed on you tube there is a doctor saying this and it was on the news. There were no diesases in North America
    till the white men invaded. The natives were healthy and lived natural. So they needed vaccines then? But check you tube a doctor is saying what I said. So go argue with the doctors.

    they didn't need vaccinations, they had the colors of the wind
  • bergamese
    bergamese Posts: 36 Member
    This is such a hot point with me. My grandmother had polio because there were no vaccines. God rest her soul.
  • LishLash79
    LishLash79 Posts: 562 Member
    Just confirmed on you tube there is a doctor saying this and it was on the news. There were no diesases in North America
    till the white men invaded. The natives were healthy and lived natural. So they needed vaccines then? But check you tube a doctor is saying what I said. So go argue with the doctors.

    they didn't need vaccinations, they had the colors of the wind
    i feel like singing.. isent that a song lol
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Just confirmed on you tube there is a doctor saying this and it was on the news. There were no diesases in North America
    till the white men invaded. The natives were healthy and lived natural. So they needed vaccines then? But check you tube a doctor is saying what I said. So go argue with the doctors.

    they didn't need vaccinations, they had the colors of the wind

    They could sing with all the voices of the mountains too.
  • onezeronine
    onezeronine Posts: 37 Member
    Just confirmed on you tube there is a doctor saying this and it was on the news. There were no diesases in North America
    till the white men invaded. The natives were healthy and lived natural. So they needed vaccines then? But check you tube a doctor is saying what I said. So go argue with the doctors.

    HOLY CRAP GUYS HOLD THE PHONE WE'VE ALL BEEN PROVEN WRONG HERE. THIS LADY FOUND A DOCTOR ON YOUTUBE. The CDC clearly has no idea what they're talking about. Hey, did you send that youtube video to the CDC? I bet they'll want to know about that, god knows they've obviously been wrong for so long. Man, you are so right, I get all of my health information from Youtube. I should totally check that out. There is obviously no chance that since Youtube lets anyone post anything that this person is insane and maybe even not a real doctor. Everyone knows that Youtube is the most reliable source for health information, forget actual doctors and nurses. Jeez.
  • kiwitechgirl
    kiwitechgirl Posts: 145 Member
    This is such a hot point with me. My grandmother had polio because there were no vaccines. God rest her soul.

    Exactly. You ask anyone who lived through polio and smallpox eras whether they think vaccinations aren't necessary, and I don't need to guess at the answer you'll get.
  • fatfrost
    fatfrost Posts: 367 Member
    I don't know, I think my son either became autistic after the MMR vaccine, or during pregnancy when I worked as a correctional officer. While working the overnight shift and sometimes having to work doubles, I would only bring enough food from home for one shift and was not expecting to have to pull a double. Often times, I would get so hungry while working the overnight shift that I had to eat a sack lunch sometimes, that they would prepare for the inmates leaving for work. The sack lunch contained the worst kinds of foods that the average person would not eat. There was an apple and a packet of peanut butter, and some bologna with two slices of bread. I remember rinsing the bologna off real good and putting it in the microwave till it popped and eating the non-organic, highly pesticide-filled red apple that came with it, along with peanut butter on the top. My other theory for my son coming up autistic is that during my pregnancy, I had a threatened miscarriage with him and I had to be rushed to the emergency room because I was bleeding. He turned out to be okay, but maybe it caused brain damage that caused his autism. Maybe, I am secretly half-autistic myself, since I am extremely shy in person, and socially awkward and I passed on a gene to him. I don't know. However, I was vaccinated as a child, and although I consider myself kind of weird, I turned out fine. I have gotten the flu vaccine for him and myself and we have never gotten the flu. But a lot of my neighbors told me to stop vaccinating, since my son was autistic. I was like, "What difference does it make, he already has autism, so what is not vaccinating him going to prevent or prove?"

    cool story bro

    Damn. Harsh . . .
  • hungryhobbit1
    hungryhobbit1 Posts: 259 Member
    Honestly. My parents were just a bit older than the baby boomers, so were not vaccinated against many of the childhood diseases they have vaccines for today. My mother barely survived the measles, and my dad and his sister had polio when they were children. They were very lucky because they "only" experienced a splitting headache that went on for weeks, and did not come out of it with partial or total paralysis, as many children did.

    My mother tells me that one year they closed all of the public swimming pools up and down the East Coast, because the polio risk was so great. Only in the past couple of decades have the parks departments been building them again.

    If you are two generations removed from remembering what it is like to face potentially deadly childhood diseases, be grateful and get vaccinated if you can. We've had whooping cough going through our elementary school like wildfire because herd immunity is no longer working properly in Washington State, and the vaccine is not 100% effective. (Which is why herd immunity is EXTRA important with whooping cough.)

    People should let their bodies fight viruses off naturally, not depend on shots.

    Yeah, fighting off polio naturally worked out really well for people. And kids who die from whooping cough just aren't fighting it off hard enough, I suppose? *eye roll*
  • gingabebe
    gingabebe Posts: 165 Member
    Do you know when you get the flu shot they are actually injecting the virus into you, and you get sick.
    Everybody in my family got it, except me. Once you get it you always have to. They all get the flu, I
    only get the flu like once every 5 years. People should let their bodies fight viruses off naturally, not
    depend on shots.

    They are injecting the dead virus into you so that your body will detect the virus and begin producing virus-specific antibodies to fight it off.

    So no, once they get it they don't always have to get it.

    We have the option to get a flu shot at work, which I do b/c I have had the flu twice and both times I felt like I could die. There are always a lot who decline it b/c they swear it makes them sick. The pamphlet they send out beforehand explains that if you are harboring a cold and get the shot, your immune system is weakened a bit while it makes the antibodies to the dead flu virus, so that is why they ask you if you have been running a fever or had the sniffles before getting the shot. If so, you should wait. Also, sometimes the strain they use doesn't fight off the version that comes your way, viruses change.

    Now about dumb docs. Once when I was just diagnosed with PCOS and trying to get pregnant, my gyno had a student doc in training. She did the usual Q&A and asked if I used condoms w/ my husband. I said, "No we are trying to conceive and a condom would make that a bit hard to do!" and she went on this diatribe about men and how they all cheat and I should always use a condom or suffer diseases- for like 5 minutes. I was so shocked all I could say was "How in the hell would one get pregnant using condoms, are we all supposed to have test tube babies?" Totally off topic, but I thought I would share to show that some doctors are just wrong (and possibly insane). Hopefully that woman never made it through or picked another field.
  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
    My friend is a doctor. They offer vaccines to people, but she said she would never take any herself. They are filled with mercury. Also vaccines has been shown to cause autism in some cases!

    Your friend is an idiot.
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
    I have asthma. If I DON'T get the flu shot, I might die.
  • StarChanger
    StarChanger Posts: 605 Member
    My friend is a doctor. They offer vaccines to people, but she said she would never take any herself. They are filled with mercury. Also vaccines has been shown to cause autism in some cases!

    Your friend is an idiot.

    I'd be curious to know what "kind" of doctor, because I can assure she would be an anomaly (and likely laughed out of her hospital) if she is a true MD.
  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
    Just confirmed on you tube there is a doctor saying this and it was on the news.

    Hold on, I better go get a subscription to the YouTube Journal of Medicine and read up on this!
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