Sugar is scary..

Big food will do everything in their power to deny it including placing people on this site.

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I'm more concerned about where my sugar comes from.
If it's in my fruits and veggies, fine.
If it's been refined, processed, or created, I will pass.
Listen to your body and respond appropriately - be an advocate for your own health and wellness!
Don't ask "what do others say?" ask "How do I feel?"

I'm more concerned about where my sugar comes from.
If it's in my fruits and veggies, fine.
If it's been refined, processed, or created, I will pass.
Listen to your body and respond appropriately - be an advocate for your own health and wellness!
Don't ask "what do others say?" ask "How do I feel?"

THIS! All sugars are not bad, but highly processed ones have a lot of dangers that go along with their "fast fuel" benefit.

Watch "Hungry for Change" on Netflix ... and "Food Matters" ... just because a calorie is a calorie and all sugars may burn at the same rate, doesn't mean that each can't have its own discrete dangers and risks. HFCS is hell on your liver! But yes, a calorie is a calorie as long as you don't mind having the liver of an alcoholic. Most of those claiming there are no drawbacks are very young and have yet to experience to the long-term side effects of unclean eating. They think if it hasn't hurt them, it must not be dangerous.

I know lots of folks who smoked cigarettes all their lives but never developed lung cancer. But that doesn't mean that cigarettes don't cause lung cancer. Each person's 'ecosystem' is unique and some risks are more dangerous in some bodies than others. Other factors like exercise habits and the quality of the rest of the diet make a difference. How much water is ingested daily. It all counts.

The more processed your food is, the less likely it will nourish your body safely. Sugars are fine in moderation, but the natural sugars in natural concentrations and delivered with the fiber and vitamins of a whole fresh peach are infinitely better for you than the same number of calories from a soda full of HFCS.

What they're saying: Sugar causes all of these issues and is bad for your body!
What is happening: They're basing this on sugar from refined sources and simple carbohydrates.
What they're doing: Finally giving up junk food they shouldn't have been eating to begin with.
Why it works: They were eating high amounts of bad sugars/food that turned into simple sugars.

There's a hell of a difference between bread and candy compared to fruits and berries. This is also why the glycemic index exists and what people mean when they're talking about good and bad carbs. I mean in a sense going by what you said the documentary is about it's actually right, but there's tons of science and ways to look at it rather than "sugar is bad for you!".

And for the record, eating large amounts of most things isn't going to be good for you, so why is the fact that eating large amounts of sugar isn't great for you such a focus? It doesn't need to be blown out of proportion and demonised.

I'm more concerned about where my sugar comes from.
If it's in my fruits and veggies, fine.
If it's been refined, processed, or created, I will pass

My feelings exactly.

But yes, a calorie is a calorie as long as you don't mind having the liver of an alcoholic. Most of those claiming there are no drawbacks are very young and have yet to experience to the long-term side effects of unclean eating. They think if it hasn't hurt them, it must not be dangerous.

Agree. And watch out: here come all the cute little (or just obnoxious) gifs and testaments and condescension from people who lost 50 lbs eating doughnuts and have never been healthier.

I have a mom who was pre-diabetic. She always made all our food, ate very low-fat, but ate a ton of fruit in her typical 1970s-80s women’s low-fat, high carb diet….and that wasn’t even the highly processed nastiness that is consumed without a thought now and helping the US out with the incredible levels of diabetes, heart disease, and obesity for which it’s becoming known. So, no thanks on the sugar. My health has improved vastly since cutting almost all of it.

Do what feels right for you, but it’s always good to look at both sides of the argument and to research the hell out of the research.

"Terrifying"? Oh please. Sugar is just sugar, nothing scary about it. Cancer and Alzheimer's are scary. A-hole Rebublicans shutting down the government because they didn't get their way is scary. Diabetes is scary ( ask my husband...)

I find this interesting (and am not being snide) that you just said "sugar is sugar, nothing scary about it" and then "Diabetes is scary." Assuming we're talking about Type 2 diabetes, the two are at least somewhat linked. If you were referring to Type 1 diabetes, then I misunderstood, and apologize for even bringing it up.

"Terrifying"? Oh please. Sugar is just sugar, nothing scary about it. Cancer and Alzheimer's are scary. A-hole Rebublicans shutting down the government because they didn't get their way is scary. Diabetes is scary ( ask my husband...)

I find this interesting (and am not being snide) that you just said "sugar is sugar, nothing scary about it" and then "Diabetes is scary." Assuming we're talking about Type 2 diabetes, the two are at least somewhat linked. If you were referring to Type 1 diabetes, then I misunderstood, and apologize for even bringing it up.

Water and drowning are linked

You should take everything you watch with a grain of salt. Sugar just like everything else is good for you.. in moderation. For goodness sake, no food is evil. All food is fuel, some you get better more sustainable fuel from and others you do not. Take a little from each food group even oils, fats, sugars and you'll be a-okay! And you can get type 2 diabetes without a diet full of sugar and carbs.. fyi!

You should take everything you watch with a grain of salt. Sugar just like everything else is good for you.. in moderation. For goodness sake, no food is evil. All food is fuel, some you get better more sustainable fuel from and others you do not. Take a little from each food group even oils, fats, sugars and you'll be a-okay! And you can get type 2 diabetes without a diet full of sugar and carbs.. fyi!

Why'd you have to bring salt into this?!?!?! Isn't sugar bad enough? :laugh:

Well this thread really brought out the crazy

Sugar is fine. Sugar is good. Sugar from fruits, sugar from cake, sugar cane - its all good. Too much of it will lead to weight gain, but too much of anything will lead to weight gain. If you eat 3000 calories of lettuce every day, you'll gain weight (and probably vomit and want to kill yourself because you ate a metric ton of lettuce). If you inject HFCS straight into your blood stream 24/7, yeah, you'll have some ill effects.

I have found that the most successful people on this site do not rant against sugar, or carbs, or fat. They hit their macros, they don't restrict, and they exercise.

Well this thread really brought out the crazy

Sugar is fine. Sugar is good. Sugar from fruits, sugar from cake, sugar cane - its all good. Too much of it will lead to weight gain, but too much of anything will lead to weight gain. If you eat 3000 calories of lettuce every day, you'll gain weight (and probably vomit and want to kill yourself because you ate a metric ton of lettuce). If you inject HFCS straight into your blood stream 24/7, yeah, you'll have some ill effects.

I have found that the most successful people on this site do not rant against sugar, or carbs, or fat. They hit their macros, they don't restrict, and they exercise.

And have the livers of alcoholics apparently.

I just don't know what to think. I mean I know sugars in fruit are good but like, the high fructose corn syrup stuff? Idk man. :c It's hard to know with all these different sources saying different things.

For the record, the sugar in fruit and the sugar in HFCS are the EXACT SAME SUGARS. If one is good, then both are good, if one is bad, then both are bad. You're creating a dilemma where none exists. Sugar is just a carbohydrate, it's used for energy by your brain, organs, and muscles in the form of glycogen. Very, very rarely is sugar ever stored as fat.

As for the poster talking about Lustig; Lustig has been completely debunked. His entire argument is based on cherry picked science, and even blatant lies (eg: Japan doesn't consume fructose, which is completely false.) He bases his conclusions on old research on children (he's a pediatrician) that has no relevance to grown adults (even though he preaches this toward adults) while completely ignoring both older and newer research that directly refutes his claims.

Edited for typos.

Sugar is very rarely stored as fat? What? I'm sure I'm misreading this.

No, not misreading. Sugar is almost never stored as fat. It is burned directly for energy, and extra is converted to glycogen and stored in the muscles. When the muscles are full, more glycogen is stored in the liver. Only when all of that is completely full (which is extremely rare because your muscles use glycogen for just about every movement) will sugar be converted to fat for storage. The body will store anywhere from 1300-1800 grams of glycogen when full, depending on individual need.

The vast majority of fat in a stored fat cell is from dietary fatty acids, which is where the misguided "eating fat makes you fat" myth came from.

Would you be willing to send some supporting information with this? I'm not finding what you're finding. I'll go first:

http://authoritynutrition.com/4-ways-sugar-makes-you-fat/
http://uhs.berkeley.edu/facstaff/pdf/healthmatters/NutritionActionSugarBellyApril 2012.pdf
http://www.foodandhealing.com/articles/article-sugar.htm
http://crossfitrockwall.typepad.com/crossfit_rockwall/sugar.html

Well this thread really brought out the crazy

Sugar is fine. Sugar is good. Sugar from fruits, sugar from cake, sugar cane - its all good. Too much of it will lead to weight gain, but too much of anything will lead to weight gain. If you eat 3000 calories of lettuce every day, you'll gain weight (and probably vomit and want to kill yourself because you ate a metric ton of lettuce). If you inject HFCS straight into your blood stream 24/7, yeah, you'll have some ill effects.

I have found that the most successful people on this site do not rant against sugar, or carbs, or fat. They hit their macros, they don't restrict, and they exercise.

And have the livers of alcoholics apparently.

I guess the joke will be on us when the alarmists are proven right and we all drop dead in 2 weeks.

I just chalk it up to my obviously superior genetic makeup . . .