Sugar is scary..
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Omg love waking up to read what goodies this thread has come up with. It's like Christmas in October.0
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I'm more concerned about where my sugar comes from.
If it's in my fruits and veggies, fine.
If it's been refined, processed, or created, I will passBut yes, a calorie is a calorie as long as you don't mind having the liver of an alcoholic. Most of those claiming there are no drawbacks are very young and have yet to experience to the long-term side effects of unclean eating. They think if it hasn't hurt them, it must not be dangerous.
Agree. And watch out: here come all the cute little (or just obnoxious) gifs and testaments and condescension from people who lost 50 lbs eating doughnuts and have never been healthier.
I have a mom who was pre-diabetic. She always made all our food, ate very low-fat, but ate a ton of fruit in her typical 1970s-80s women’s low-fat, high carb diet….and that wasn’t even the highly processed nastiness that is consumed without a thought now and helping the US out with the incredible levels of diabetes, heart disease, and obesity for which it’s becoming known. So, no thanks on the sugar. My health has improved vastly since cutting almost all of it.
Do what feels right for you, but it’s always good to look at both sides of the argument and to research the hell out of the research.0 -
Big food.
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"Terrifying"? Oh please. Sugar is just sugar, nothing scary about it. Cancer and Alzheimer's are scary. A-hole Rebublicans shutting down the government because they didn't get their way is scary. Diabetes is scary ( ask my husband...)
I find this interesting (and am not being snide) that you just said "sugar is sugar, nothing scary about it" and then "Diabetes is scary." Assuming we're talking about Type 2 diabetes, the two are at least somewhat linked. If you were referring to Type 1 diabetes, then I misunderstood, and apologize for even bringing it up.0 -
And for the record, eating large amounts of most things isn't going to be good for you, so why is the fact that eating large amounts of sugar isn't great for you such a focus? It doesn't need to be blown out of proportion and demonised.
Completely agree! Everything is bad in large amounts, it's not that serious! As for the conspiracy theorist... WOW... just wow.0 -
Big food.
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Big food.
Where can I get a slice of Big Food's pie?0 -
"Terrifying"? Oh please. Sugar is just sugar, nothing scary about it. Cancer and Alzheimer's are scary. A-hole Rebublicans shutting down the government because they didn't get their way is scary. Diabetes is scary ( ask my husband...)
I find this interesting (and am not being snide) that you just said "sugar is sugar, nothing scary about it" and then "Diabetes is scary." Assuming we're talking about Type 2 diabetes, the two are at least somewhat linked. If you were referring to Type 1 diabetes, then I misunderstood, and apologize for even bringing it up.
Water and drowning are linked0 -
I just don't know what to think. I mean I know sugars in fruit are good but like, the high fructose corn syrup stuff? Idk man. :c It's hard to know with all these different sources saying different things.
As for the poster talking about Lustig; Lustig has been completely debunked. His entire argument is based on cherry picked science, and even blatant lies (eg: Japan doesn't consume fructose, which is completely false.) He bases his conclusions on old research on children (he's a pediatrician) that has no relevance to grown adults (even though he preaches this toward adults) while completely ignoring both older and newer research that directly refutes his claims.
Edited for typos.
Sugar is very rarely stored as fat? What? I'm sure I'm misreading this.0 -
You should take everything you watch with a grain of salt. Sugar just like everything else is good for you.. in moderation. For goodness sake, no food is evil. All food is fuel, some you get better more sustainable fuel from and others you do not. Take a little from each food group even oils, fats, sugars and you'll be a-okay! And you can get type 2 diabetes without a diet full of sugar and carbs.. fyi!0
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You should take everything you watch with a grain of salt. Sugar just like everything else is good for you.. in moderation. For goodness sake, no food is evil. All food is fuel, some you get better more sustainable fuel from and others you do not. Take a little from each food group even oils, fats, sugars and you'll be a-okay! And you can get type 2 diabetes without a diet full of sugar and carbs.. fyi!
And you can get cancer without smoking. What are you trying to say?0 -
You should take everything you watch with a grain of salt. Sugar just like everything else is good for you.. in moderation. For goodness sake, no food is evil. All food is fuel, some you get better more sustainable fuel from and others you do not. Take a little from each food group even oils, fats, sugars and you'll be a-okay! And you can get type 2 diabetes without a diet full of sugar and carbs.. fyi!0
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I just don't know what to think. I mean I know sugars in fruit are good but like, the high fructose corn syrup stuff? Idk man. :c It's hard to know with all these different sources saying different things.
As for the poster talking about Lustig; Lustig has been completely debunked. His entire argument is based on cherry picked science, and even blatant lies (eg: Japan doesn't consume fructose, which is completely false.) He bases his conclusions on old research on children (he's a pediatrician) that has no relevance to grown adults (even though he preaches this toward adults) while completely ignoring both older and newer research that directly refutes his claims.
Edited for typos.
Sugar is very rarely stored as fat? What? I'm sure I'm misreading this.
The vast majority of fat in a stored fat cell is from dietary fatty acids, which is where the misguided "eating fat makes you fat" myth came from.0 -
Well this thread really brought out the crazy
Sugar is fine. Sugar is good. Sugar from fruits, sugar from cake, sugar cane - its all good. Too much of it will lead to weight gain, but too much of anything will lead to weight gain. If you eat 3000 calories of lettuce every day, you'll gain weight (and probably vomit and want to kill yourself because you ate a metric ton of lettuce). If you inject HFCS straight into your blood stream 24/7, yeah, you'll have some ill effects.
I have found that the most successful people on this site do not rant against sugar, or carbs, or fat. They hit their macros, they don't restrict, and they exercise.0 -
I have found that the most successful people on this site do not rant against sugar, or carbs, or fat. They hit their macros, they don't restrict, and they exercise.
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Well this thread really brought out the crazy
Sugar is fine. Sugar is good. Sugar from fruits, sugar from cake, sugar cane - its all good. Too much of it will lead to weight gain, but too much of anything will lead to weight gain. If you eat 3000 calories of lettuce every day, you'll gain weight (and probably vomit and want to kill yourself because you ate a metric ton of lettuce). If you inject HFCS straight into your blood stream 24/7, yeah, you'll have some ill effects.
I have found that the most successful people on this site do not rant against sugar, or carbs, or fat. They hit their macros, they don't restrict, and they exercise.
And have the livers of alcoholics apparently.0 -
i agree with the science behind how sugar is a poison. But its most dangerous in the form of refined sugars and excess consumption of fructose which puts pressure on the liver etc. but yea, its hard to cut sugar out completely from ones diet, itll cause bad withdrawal symptoms for the first week, and its just not practical in every day life. Also, it would be difficult to achieve fibre goals and vitamins minerals etc i love finding info about food, but its just so hard to figure whats true and whats just an exaggeration of the truth0
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I just don't know what to think. I mean I know sugars in fruit are good but like, the high fructose corn syrup stuff? Idk man. :c It's hard to know with all these different sources saying different things.
As for the poster talking about Lustig; Lustig has been completely debunked. His entire argument is based on cherry picked science, and even blatant lies (eg: Japan doesn't consume fructose, which is completely false.) He bases his conclusions on old research on children (he's a pediatrician) that has no relevance to grown adults (even though he preaches this toward adults) while completely ignoring both older and newer research that directly refutes his claims.
Edited for typos.
Sugar is very rarely stored as fat? What? I'm sure I'm misreading this.
The vast majority of fat in a stored fat cell is from dietary fatty acids, which is where the misguided "eating fat makes you fat" myth came from.
Would you be willing to send some supporting information with this? I'm not finding what you're finding. I'll go first:
http://authoritynutrition.com/4-ways-sugar-makes-you-fat/
http://uhs.berkeley.edu/facstaff/pdf/healthmatters/NutritionActionSugarBellyApril 2012.pdf
http://www.foodandhealing.com/articles/article-sugar.htm
http://crossfitrockwall.typepad.com/crossfit_rockwall/sugar.html0 -
Well this thread really brought out the crazy
Sugar is fine. Sugar is good. Sugar from fruits, sugar from cake, sugar cane - its all good. Too much of it will lead to weight gain, but too much of anything will lead to weight gain. If you eat 3000 calories of lettuce every day, you'll gain weight (and probably vomit and want to kill yourself because you ate a metric ton of lettuce). If you inject HFCS straight into your blood stream 24/7, yeah, you'll have some ill effects.
I have found that the most successful people on this site do not rant against sugar, or carbs, or fat. They hit their macros, they don't restrict, and they exercise.
And have the livers of alcoholics apparently.
I guess the joke will be on us when the alarmists are proven right and we all drop dead in 2 weeks.0 -
Well this thread really brought out the crazy
Sugar is fine. Sugar is good. Sugar from fruits, sugar from cake, sugar cane - its all good. Too much of it will lead to weight gain, but too much of anything will lead to weight gain. If you eat 3000 calories of lettuce every day, you'll gain weight (and probably vomit and want to kill yourself because you ate a metric ton of lettuce). If you inject HFCS straight into your blood stream 24/7, yeah, you'll have some ill effects.
I have found that the most successful people on this site do not rant against sugar, or carbs, or fat. They hit their macros, they don't restrict, and they exercise.
And have the livers of alcoholics apparently.
I guess the joke will be on us when the alarmists are proven right and we all drop dead in 2 weeks.
I just chalk it up to my obviously superior genetic makeup . . .0
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