1200 Calorie Diet???? Seriously???
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Why even post if you're not contributing? Just curious.
If you're bored, then why not just ignore it.
yawn.
I think the yawn was to point out that these kinds of threads are getting old.
Personally, I feel it is important to point out when bad advice is being given. Did I do it the best way? No. But I'm getting pretty fed up with people preaching unscientific methods, when their advice was not even solicited.
I'm going to go take my snark face off now. :blushing:
I do agree about getting fed up about people preaching unscientific methods, especially when unsolicited.0 -
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1. You do not need to "eat clean." (you can eat a variety of foods, lose weight, and meet nutritional needs)
2. Drink the lemon water if you like the taste, but it will do nothing for weight loss.
3. Meal timing is personal preference.
4. You can eat lunch meat and still lose weight. (and be healthy)
5. You do not have to limit condiments. (if it fits into your day, go for it.)
6. You do not have to limit dairy. (unless you have a medical reason)
7. You do not have to limit fruit. (fruit has numerous nutritional benefits)
8. The only reason somebody should be restricting sugar is because of a medical reason. (sugar is carb, so track that.)
True....ideally, as long as you stay under your RECOMMENDED (note I emphasized this because everyone needs a different amount depending on weight, height and activity) caloric intake you should lose weight. But just staying under your calories doesn't mean you are healthy. You should be eating whole foods and you should restrict your fat intake (and make sure you are eating the right fats, avocado, nuts, olive oil etc.). Dr. Oz mentions how not every calorie is created equal. You trechnically could eat 1200 calories worth of Big Macs all day every day, but let me know what your heart says about that in 10-15 years.Then you will be wishing you would have restricted your fats, condiments, and sugars.
Sidebar- I noticed that you mentioned people should only restrict these things for medical reasons...just keep in mind they can always cause that medical reason if not monitored.
In terms of weight loss, which is what this thread is about, every calorie is created equal.2 -
Meh.
Just came in to admire the beautiful cheese sammich.1 -
I'm also new to the forums here and all I've seen so far is either people endlessly posting 'add me I need friends' threads or threads where everyone is just arguing or debating over what people are trying to give as advice or claim as how 'it works'.
Then again, this is the internet.
Don't forget the daily links to the "_________ the person above you"!
I'm short, (5'1") and have been going with the net calorie goal and eating my exercise calories back, which usually ends up at any where from 1400 to 1800 a day, and am gaining and losing the same 5 lbs, and since the weight on my frame makes me "morbidly obese" according to BMI charts everywhere, I think I need to stick to 1200 regardless of exercise for awhile anyway. Talked to my doc yesterday who gave me the "exercise is great, don't stop, but don't count on it to lose weight...it's your diet and you need to kick start you metabolism" speech. I think maintenance for me will be about 1800 calories, being short sucks.0 -
In terms of weight loss, which is what this thread is about, every calorie is created equal.
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True, but don't you think it's important to take health in consideration when you are losing weight? Who cares if you are thin if you keel over from a bad heart....0 -
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...because I love new member "knowledge" bomb threads.1 -
True, but don't you think it's important to take health in consideration when you are losing weight? Who cares if you are thin if you keel over from a bad heart....
You are missing the point. Those that promote not eliminating items from intake are not promoting sitting around eating Big Macs all day. Instead, they are promoting eating a wide range of foods to meet nutritional needs. (which can include a Big Mac if it fits into your day)
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True, but don't you think it's important to take health in consideration when you are losing weight? Who cares if you are thin if you keel over from a bad heart....
You are missing the point. Those that promote not eliminating items from intake are not promoting sitting around eating Big Macs all day. Instead, they are promoting eating a wide range of foods to meet nutritional needs. (which can include a Big Mac if it fits into your day)
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Exactly. I am all about not eliminating things you renjoy. Most of my diet is VERY healthy, but I have cake or ice cream or whatever sometimes. If I still ate meat, I'd have a Big Mac sometimes, too.
My blood pressure last month at my last doctor visit was 104/60.0 -
Mmmmm.. big mac.0
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In terms of weight loss, which is what this thread is about, every calorie is created equal.
True, but don't you think it's important to take health in consideration when you are losing weight? Who cares if you are thin if you keel over from a bad heart....
For most people, weight loss itself fixes a lot of medical problems.
Also, read this:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html1 -
I understand that you are not setting yourself up for success if you limit your cravings and never indulge on the fatty foods. I personally have my cheat day every Saturday but am very strict the rest of the week and I have been consistently losing a pound a week and I eat 1500 calories per day. But my point is that it is dangerous and misleading to tell people that they don't need to limit things like condiments, sugars etc in order to lose weight. Those are EXACTLY the things you should limit (not remove completely).1
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I understand that you are not setting yourself up for success if you limit your cravings and never indulge on the fatty foods. I personally have my cheat day every Saturday but am very strict the rest of the week and I have been consistently losing a pound a week and I eat 1500 calories per day. But my point is that it is dangerous and misleading to tell people that they don't need to limit things like condiments, sugars etc in order to lose weight. Those are EXACTLY the things you should limit (not remove completely).
The only people that need to restrict certain foods are those that have medical conditions that require restrictions. In that case, a doctor, dietician, or nutritionist, should advise those people on what to cut out of their diet. Everyone else can (and I would say should) practice moderation.0 -
Eating fewer calories is going to sort that out, anyway.I understand that you are not setting yourself up for success if you limit your cravings and never indulge on the fatty foods. I personally have my cheat day every Saturday but am very strict the rest of the week and I have been consistently losing a pound a week and I eat 1500 calories per day. But my point is that it is dangerous and misleading to tell people that they don't need to limit things like condiments, sugars etc in order to lose weight. Those are EXACTLY the things you should limit (not remove completely).
People learn quickly that if they eat Twinkies every day, they can't eat as much satisfying food and they change their diet.
Or they don't, but do you really think people don't know Twinkies are healthy?0 -
I'm saying that I think people underestimate exactly how much sugar and fat can be in condiments. And again...I will emphasize the word "limit" I did not say eliminate. To me, limit means moderation. I still eat ketchup and mayonnaise but not in the amounts I used to. AND if it's going to take away 100 calories that I could put towards something more nutritional like a chicken or veggies then I am going to make the better choice.1
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If they're tracking it, they will quickly understand.I'm saying that I think people underestimate exactly how much sugar and fat can be in condiments. And again...I will emphasize the word "limit" I did not say eliminate. To me, limit means moderation. I still eat ketchup and mayonnaise but not in the amounts I used to. AND if it's going to take away 100 calories that I could put towards something more nutritional like a chicken or veggies then I am going to make the better choice.
But I'll point out that full fat mayo has 60 calories per tablespoon. If you're putting mayo on a sandwich, you're probably using less than half of that.
A teaspoon of sugar is 15 calories.
They really aren't that bad if you're not going overboard. And fat is perfectly fine. You need fat.0 -
If I were to stick to a 1200 calorie diet, when exactly would I starve to death? I think the word "starving" is a bit overused. I eat about 1500 most days for weight loss, but my 5'0 grandma who is mostly sedentary keeps her weight stable with about 1200 a day.0
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I'm saying that I think people underestimate exactly how much sugar and fat can be in condiments. And again...I will emphasize the word "limit" I did not say eliminate. To me, limit means moderation. I still eat ketchup and mayonnaise but not in the amounts I used to. AND if it's going to take away 100 calories that I could put towards something more nutritional like a chicken or veggies then I am going to make the better choice.
That is actually an excellent strategy. The point people here are trying to make is that telling people to eat things in moderation is very different from telling people to limit mayo. By telling people to cut out or limit mayo or fats or sugars or anything specific, that person is saying those specific things are bad when they are actually not.0 -
I am at 1200/day and feeling great! I am 5'2 (barely) and this is what it has taken to finally see results. I still eat cheese and mayo (olive oil) and I start my day with plain ol' water. I don't ever feel like I am starving. By limiting my calories I now actually feel full after a meal. This is what I needed to finally break the vicious cycle of overeating. May not work for some but it works for me
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People have different needs based on age, sex, height, body type, activity level, and lifestyle. 1200 is not too low for some people. Research has shown that slow and steady is not necessarily the best way to lose weight for everyone. So long as they don't revert to their old habits, some people get a boost from sticking to a strict diet and seeing fairly fast results. Maybe they're not on MFP because they're successful, but they do exist.
Blanket statements help no one.0 -
I am at 1200/day and feeling great! I am 5'2 (barely) and this is what it has taken to finally see results. I still eat cheese and mayo (olive oil) and I start my day with plain ol' water. I don't ever feel like I am starving. By limiting my calories I now actually feel full after a meal. This is what I needed to finally break the vicious cycle of overeating. May not work for some but it works for me
I'm 5'2 too. If I'm in active weight loss mode I have to be below 1200.0 -
I'm saying that I think people underestimate exactly how much sugar and fat can be in condiments. And again...I will emphasize the word "limit" I did not say eliminate. To me, limit means moderation. I still eat ketchup and mayonnaise but not in the amounts I used to. AND if it's going to take away 100 calories that I could put towards something more nutritional like a chicken or veggies then I am going to make the better choice.
That is actually an excellent strategy. The point people here are trying to make is that telling people to eat things in moderation is very different from telling people to limit mayo. By telling people to cut out or limit mayo or fats or sugars or anything specific, that person is saying those specific things are bad when they are actually not.
Eating in moderation is fine, IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO IT. Some people can't. Certain foods are trigger foods. Dieter, know thyself.0 -
I'm saying that I think people underestimate exactly how much sugar and fat can be in condiments. And again...I will emphasize the word "limit" I did not say eliminate. To me, limit means moderation. I still eat ketchup and mayonnaise but not in the amounts I used to. AND if it's going to take away 100 calories that I could put towards something more nutritional like a chicken or veggies then I am going to make the better choice.
That is actually an excellent strategy. The point people here are trying to make is that telling people to eat things in moderation is very different from telling people to limit mayo. By telling people to cut out or limit mayo or fats or sugars or anything specific, that person is saying those specific things are bad when they are actually not.
No, Holly. Some of us limit or eliminate certain things in our diet because they are bad for our diet plan. Whether they are bad for my health is not the point...they are bad for my successfully controlling "calories in" and ultimately, for my weight loss or maintenance. I don't need a doctor of nutritionist to support what I know works for me. Saying I "should" eat them in moderation because you do is a bit...ridiculous. I am happy your diet works for you. And I am thrilled mine works for me. This is not black and white. I am not right and you are wrong. We are just different. Keep up the good work - I think it is great you found a WOE that suits you and your goals.1 -
Eating in moderation is fine, IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO IT. Some people can't. Certain foods are trigger foods. Dieter, know thyself.
Amen, sistah! The best diet is the one you can stick with.1 -
I'm 5'3 and I can do the 1200 calorie diet If........ I drink my 8-10 glasses of water per day. (154lbs)0
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I think you misread what Holly wrote.I'm saying that I think people underestimate exactly how much sugar and fat can be in condiments. And again...I will emphasize the word "limit" I did not say eliminate. To me, limit means moderation. I still eat ketchup and mayonnaise but not in the amounts I used to. AND if it's going to take away 100 calories that I could put towards something more nutritional like a chicken or veggies then I am going to make the better choice.
That is actually an excellent strategy. The point people here are trying to make is that telling people to eat things in moderation is very different from telling people to limit mayo. By telling people to cut out or limit mayo or fats or sugars or anything specific, that person is saying those specific things are bad when they are actually not.
No, Holly. Some of us limit or eliminate certain things in our diet because they are bad for our diet plan. Whether they are bad for my health is not the point...they are bad for my successfully controlling "calories in" and ultimately, for my weight loss or maintenance. I don't need a doctor of nutritionist to support what I know works for me. Saying I "should" eat them in moderation because you do is a bit...ridiculous. I am happy your diet works for you. And I am thrilled mine works for me. This is not black and white. I am not right and you are wrong. We are just different. Keep up the good work - I think it is great you found a WOE that suits you and your goals.
Nowhere did she say no one should ever, under any circumstances, cut anything out.
What she said was that none of those things are inherently unhealthy and telling someone he or she CANNOT have something that person might easily work unto his or her plan is ridiculous.
I don't keep certain things in my house because I will overeat those things. But just because *I* can't have moose tracks ice ceam in my house doesn't mean you can't. The people she's talking about will come here and say, "I can't moderate XYZ so NO ONE SHOULD EAT XYZ."1 -
I'm saying that I think people underestimate exactly how much sugar and fat can be in condiments. And again...I will emphasize the word "limit" I did not say eliminate. To me, limit means moderation. I still eat ketchup and mayonnaise but not in the amounts I used to. AND if it's going to take away 100 calories that I could put towards something more nutritional like a chicken or veggies then I am going to make the better choice.
That is actually an excellent strategy. The point people here are trying to make is that telling people to eat things in moderation is very different from telling people to limit mayo. By telling people to cut out or limit mayo or fats or sugars or anything specific, that person is saying those specific things are bad when they are actually not.
No, Holly. Some of us limit or eliminate certain things in our diet because they are bad for our diet plan. Whether they are bad for my health is not the point...they are bad for my successfully controlling "calories in" and ultimately, for my weight loss or maintenance. I don't need a doctor of nutritionist to support what I know works for me. Saying I "should" eat them in moderation because you do is a bit...ridiculous. I am happy your diet works for you. And I am thrilled mine works for me. This is not black and white. I am not right and you are wrong. We are just different. Keep up the good work - I think it is great you found a WOE that suits you and your goals.
Um...not what I meant.
Okay, Jane lost weight by limiting candy bars from her diet. Jane tells Ashley to limit candy bars from her diet because they are bad and this will help her lose weight. This is wrong.
Now if Jane told Ashley that limiting trigger foods and eating in moderation will help her lose weight (because that is how she lost weight), that would be right.
ETA: A doctor is only going to say "Limit your carbs" or "Eat gluten-free" if you have a medical condition that supports that lifestyle. That was my point. No doctor is going to say eat oreos if NOT eating oreos has helped you lose weight. Geez.0 -
I think you misread what Holly wrote.I'm saying that I think people underestimate exactly how much sugar and fat can be in condiments. And again...I will emphasize the word "limit" I did not say eliminate. To me, limit means moderation. I still eat ketchup and mayonnaise but not in the amounts I used to. AND if it's going to take away 100 calories that I could put towards something more nutritional like a chicken or veggies then I am going to make the better choice.
That is actually an excellent strategy. The point people here are trying to make is that telling people to eat things in moderation is very different from telling people to limit mayo. By telling people to cut out or limit mayo or fats or sugars or anything specific, that person is saying those specific things are bad when they are actually not.
No, Holly. Some of us limit or eliminate certain things in our diet because they are bad for our diet plan. Whether they are bad for my health is not the point...they are bad for my successfully controlling "calories in" and ultimately, for my weight loss or maintenance. I don't need a doctor of nutritionist to support what I know works for me. Saying I "should" eat them in moderation because you do is a bit...ridiculous. I am happy your diet works for you. And I am thrilled mine works for me. This is not black and white. I am not right and you are wrong. We are just different. Keep up the good work - I think it is great you found a WOE that suits you and your goals.
Nowhere did she say no one should ever, under any circumstances, cut anything out.
What she said was that none of those things are inherently unhealthy and telling someone he or she CANNOT have something that person might easily work unto his or her plan is ridiculous.
I don't keep certain things in my house because I will overeat those things. But just because *I* can't have moose tracks ice ceam in my house doesn't mean you can't. The people she's talking about will come here and say, "I can't moderate XYZ so NO ONE SHOULD EAT XYZ."
Yes, thank you!0 -
My God why do people get so up in arms over posts? It's not that serious. At the end of the day everyone has their opinions & what works for some won't work for others. I'm sure this guy was just sharing what he thinks & meant no harm. This is honestly why I rarely post anything, because people get so crazy over the dumbest things & I know for a fact that most of the people on here who get all rude, condescending & high & mighty wouldn't speak this way if they were face to face with the OT, keyboard warriors really amuse me. But all in all there are serious things going on in this world & this isn't one of them. So relax.0
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