Rude and Unsupportive Posts.

Steve Jobs died for the same reason. he had a good prognosis because his cancer was caught very early, but he decided to try alternative cures for a few years before he came to his senses. by that time, it was too late.

I thought he tried both?

Either way, pancreatic cancer has something like a 2% survival rate after five years. I knew someone who had it, caught VERY early and was declared cured. It came back after a year and killed him within weeks. And he was very aggressive with his treatment.

Jobs probably would have died no matter what.

But breast cancer I think now has a 95% survival rate.

What I understood was that he had a very aggressive form of pancreatic cancer with a minimal survival rate and he tried something new. I'm not sure I wouldn't have done what he did.

My grandmother, who was a doctor, had colon cancer that spread to her liver. She put herself into every new study and treatment that would have her and probably prolonged her life doing so.

I don't see anything wrong with trying new treatments along with old. It's the people who think giving up sugar and eating vegetables is going to cure them that are doomed.

I'm of the mindset that some people are desperate and in that desperation they subscribe to nonesense ideas. Some times the ideas just waste time, some times they waste money, and sometimes they are harmful to that person's health.

If you know an idea is nonsense, and have evidence/science to back up that view, but say nothing when an OP is all "I'm starting the hot sauce and honey cleanse, anyone else done this/can has support?" then you may be an awful person. I will never, ever, believe it is better to just let people do stupid things then speak up. I will happily be a rude, mean, trolling bully any day of the week over being the person who watches people rush headlong into a brick wall.

Everyone is different. There are many ways to achieve the various goals people have around here. But that doesn't mean some of those ways aren't stupid.

STraight up! I totally agree.
Now, when someone's doing something safe, but not of the "iffym" mantra why do folks STILL insist on telling them it's unnecessary and wrong(or mocking them)? That's the only time I object.

Do what works for YOU, period! No debate needed.

Then don't ask for opinions, because it negates this. Just a tip.

So choosing a path, and asking for support on that path is always bad? Interesting.

So you're giving unsolicited advice to someone who not only didn't ask for it, but doesn't want it, and you wonder why they are not being supportive?

Someone posting on a message board asking for thoughts and advice is asking for thoughts and advice.

By defnition, that is SOLICITED advice.

You might want to ask for a dictionary for Christmas this year. Or Chanukah. Or your birthday. Whatever you celebrate.

So you're giving unsolicited advice to someone who not only didn't ask for it, but doesn't want it, and you wonder why they are not being supportive?

Someone posting on a message board asking for thoughts and advice is asking for thoughts and advice.

By defnition, that is SOLICITED advice.

You might want to ask for a dictionary for Christmas this year. Or Chanukah. Or your birthday. Whatever you celebrate.

It just so happens that I have a dictionary close by, and while I haven't looked up "unsupportive" just yet, I did look up "rude" and what do you know, there was your picture taking up a whole page. Speaking of unsolicited advice, keep yours to yourself. See what I just did there, I avoided being rude.

Steve Jobs died for the same reason. he had a good prognosis because his cancer was caught very early, but he decided to try alternative cures for a few years before he came to his senses. by that time, it was too late.

I thought he tried both?

Either way, pancreatic cancer has something like a 2% survival rate after five years. I knew someone who had it, caught VERY early and was declared cured. It came back after a year and killed him within weeks. And he was very aggressive with his treatment.

Jobs probably would have died no matter what.

But breast cancer I think now has a 95% survival rate.

What I understood was that he had a very aggressive form of pancreatic cancer with a minimal survival rate and he tried something new. I'm not sure I wouldn't have done what he did.

My grandmother, who was a doctor, had colon cancer that spread to her liver. She put herself into every new study and treatment that would have her and probably prolonged her life doing so.

I don't see anything wrong with trying new treatments along with old. It's the people who think giving up sugar and eating vegetables is going to cure them that are doomed.

And yes, Jobs would have died either way. In about the same time frame.

So you're giving unsolicited advice to someone who not only didn't ask for it, but doesn't want it, and you wonder why they are not being supportive?

Someone posting on a message board asking for thoughts and advice is asking for thoughts and advice.

By defnition, that is SOLICITED advice.

You might want to ask for a dictionary for Christmas this year. Or Chanukah. Or your birthday. Whatever you celebrate.

It just so happens that I have a dictionary close by, and while I haven't looked up "unsupportive" just yet, I did look up "rude" and what do you know, there was your picture taking up a whole page. Speaking of unsolicited advice, keep yours to yourself. See what I just did there, I avoided being rude.

as the OP of this thread, i still don't feel i'm getting the appropriate amount of support from this community.

SUPPORT ME!

I'm of the mindset that some people are desperate and in that desperation they subscribe to nonesense ideas. Some times the ideas just waste time, some times they waste money, and sometimes they are harmful to that person's health.

If you know an idea is nonsense, and have evidence/science to back up that view, but say nothing when an OP is all "I'm starting the hot sauce and honey cleanse, anyone else done this/can has support?" then you may be an awful person. I will never, ever, believe it is better to just let people do stupid things then speak up. I will happily be a rude, mean, trolling bully any day of the week over being the person who watches people rush headlong into a brick wall.

Everyone is different. There are many ways to achieve the various goals people have around here. But that doesn't mean some of those ways aren't stupid.

STraight up! I totally agree.
Now, when someone's doing something safe, but not of the "iffym" mantra why do folks STILL insist on telling them it's unnecessary and wrong(or mocking them)? That's the only time I object.

Safe but stupid? Because I feel like I specified 'stupid' as the sort of thing I'd speak up against.

Hold on.





Look, I said it twice!

Steve Jobs died for the same reason. he had a good prognosis because his cancer was caught very early, but he decided to try alternative cures for a few years before he came to his senses. by that time, it was too late.

I thought he tried both?

Either way, pancreatic cancer has something like a 2% survival rate after five years. I knew someone who had it, caught VERY early and was declared cured. It came back after a year and killed him within weeks. And he was very aggressive with his treatment.

Jobs probably would have died no matter what.

But breast cancer I think now has a 95% survival rate.

What I understood was that he had a very aggressive form of pancreatic cancer with a minimal survival rate and he tried something new. I'm not sure I wouldn't have done what he did.

My grandmother, who was a doctor, had colon cancer that spread to her liver. She put herself into every new study and treatment that would have her and probably prolonged her life doing so.

I don't see anything wrong with trying new treatments along with old. It's the people who think giving up sugar and eating vegetables is going to cure them that are doomed.

And yes, Jobs would have died either way. In about the same time frame.

Heck, I didn't know you were an oncologist. Not sure you should post online about someone's private medical records though...because you've clearly seen them to make this diagnosis right?

as the OP of this thread, i still don't feel i'm getting the appropriate amount of support from this community.

SUPPORT ME!

So you're giving unsolicited advice to someone who not only didn't ask for it, but doesn't want it, and you wonder why they are not being supportive?

Someone posting on a message board asking for thoughts and advice is asking for thoughts and advice.

By defnition, that is SOLICITED advice.

You might want to ask for a dictionary for Christmas this year. Or Chanukah. Or your birthday. Whatever you celebrate.

It just so happens that I have a dictionary close by, and while I haven't looked up "unsupportive" just yet, I did look up "rude" and what do you know, there was your picture taking up a whole page. Speaking of unsolicited advice, keep yours to yourself. See what I just did there, I avoided being rude.

Don't ask for my advice and I won't give it to you.

That would be unsolicited advice.

Your first post in this thread was pretty rude. I only responded in kind. :flowerforyou:

Do what works for YOU, period! No debate needed.

Then don't ask for opinions, because it negates this. Just a tip.

So choosing a path, and asking for support on that path is always bad? Interesting.

Choosing to jump off a bridge, and asking people to support that this is healthy? Right on. Don't ask a forum to "support" that, because its asinine.

So yes.

Don't.

Wanna eat nothing but flower juice and slugs? Go for it, just don't be shocked when you tell us how lovely it is that there's eye rolling.