No sugar
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That's a good answer. I like it. And for the record, I called in mumbo jumbo as a joke. I would hope that everyone would know that. Guess not.
Sarcasm doesn't translate well in a forum :P Sorry. I figured you were being a little silly, but hey... you never know!0 -
While you are correct in it's effect on weight loss vs macros and calorie burn, I think the OP is trying to eliminate it from her diet. It doesn't matter "if it fits your macros"... sugar has OTHER detrimental effects on the human body than weight loss/gain. People with PCOS, Hypo/Hyperthyroid, hormonal imbalances, etc. have a HARD TIME with large (even smaller) amounts of sugar and carbs. Their bodies dont process it the same as people who dont have these issues. Reducing sugar and carb intake is vital for people with these diseases/illnesses/issues (whatever you want to call it) to be able to ATTEMPT to lose any weight.
Thank You, I do have PCOS.0 -
It took me a month or so. But I use the sweetleaf stevia liquid. It is all natural, from a plant and comes in lots of yummy flavors...0
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While you are correct in it's effect on weight loss vs macros and calorie burn, I think the OP is trying to eliminate it from her diet. It doesn't matter "if it fits your macros"... sugar has OTHER detrimental effects on the human body than weight loss/gain. People with PCOS, Hypo/Hyperthyroid, hormonal imbalances, etc. have a HARD TIME with large (even smaller) amounts of sugar and carbs. Their bodies dont process it the same as people who dont have these issues. Reducing sugar and carb intake is vital for people with these diseases/illnesses/issues (whatever you want to call it) to be able to ATTEMPT to lose any weight.
People with peanut allergies have a HARD TIME eating peanuts.
Does that mean people without peanut allergies should avoid peanuts?
I'm so confused as to why you replied with this. Do you have hypothyroid? Diabetes? PCOS? Had a kid recently? All these issues and more have an effect on what we can and shouldn't put in our bodies. These issues make it extremely hard for someone to lose weight. I was simply providing an alternative answer to the OP.0 -
All of this. Just because you post a thread doesn't make it your private property and a safe haven to promote bad ideas.Why does everything on here turn into a debate? It gets so old. The OP wants to cut out sugar....so what? She doesn't need a reason that anyone else approves of.
Because she isn't the only one on MFP reading these threads and regardless to whether she wants to listen to those of us advocating that eating a well balanced diet can also include some discretionary items that contain the horrid SUGAR monster!! that there are others (Newbies) that are easily influenced and we just want to make sure both sides are represented..... Plus the whole thing that this is a public forum and we have just as much right to post what we see fit thing kinda applies..........0 -
While you are correct in it's effect on weight loss vs macros and calorie burn, I think the OP is trying to eliminate it from her diet. It doesn't matter "if it fits your macros"... sugar has OTHER detrimental effects on the human body than weight loss/gain. People with PCOS, Hypo/Hyperthyroid, hormonal imbalances, etc. have a HARD TIME with large (even smaller) amounts of sugar and carbs. Their bodies dont process it the same as people who dont have these issues. Reducing sugar and carb intake is vital for people with these diseases/illnesses/issues (whatever you want to call it) to be able to ATTEMPT to lose any weight.
People with peanut allergies have a HARD TIME eating peanuts.
Does that mean people without peanut allergies should avoid peanuts?
I'm so confused as to why you replied with this. Do you have hypothyroid? Diabetes? PCOS? Had a kid recently? All these ossues and more have an effect on what we can and shouldn't put in our bodies. These issues make it extremely hard for someone to lose weight. I was simply providing an alternative answer to the OP.
I replied because none of those things you mentioned have any relevance unless you actually have one of those conditions. There has been zero indication until just now that the OP or anyone else had one of those conditions.0 -
It is all natural, from a plant
Sounds like sugar.
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While you are correct in it's effect on weight loss vs macros and calorie burn, I think the OP is trying to eliminate it from her diet. It doesn't matter "if it fits your macros"... sugar has OTHER detrimental effects on the human body than weight loss/gain. People with PCOS, Hypo/Hyperthyroid, hormonal imbalances, etc. have a HARD TIME with large (even smaller) amounts of sugar and carbs. Their bodies dont process it the same as people who dont have these issues. Reducing sugar and carb intake is vital for people with these diseases/illnesses/issues (whatever you want to call it) to be able to ATTEMPT to lose any weight.
People with peanut allergies have a HARD TIME eating peanuts.
Does that mean people without peanut allergies should avoid peanuts?
I'm so confused as to why you replied with this. Do you have hypothyroid? Diabetes? PCOS? Had a kid recently? All these ossues and more have an effect on what we can and shouldn't put in our bodies. These issues make it extremely hard for someone to lose weight. I was simply providing an alternative answer to the OP.
I have type 2 diabetes and eat sugar everyday, it hasn't caused any problem with my weight loss....... or my diabetes for that matter.... A1c have been at 5.3 for over 2 years now down from 10.0 when first diagnosed in 20090 -
It is all natural, from a plant
Sounds like sugar.
Pure cane sugar in my morning coffee!! Nothing better..... :drinker:0 -
Clif Bars
nothing refined
I was under the impression that Clif Bars didn't use refined sugars. If I'm mistaken, my apologies.0 -
It is all natural, from a plant
Sounds like sugar.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Clif Bars
nothing refined
I was under the impression that Clif Bars didn't use refined sugars. If I'm mistaken, my apologies.
You should check that ingredients label. Clif bars are full of refined ingredients. The word "organic" in front of them doesn't mean they're unrefined.0 -
While you are correct in it's effect on weight loss vs macros and calorie burn, I think the OP is trying to eliminate it from her diet. It doesn't matter "if it fits your macros"... sugar has OTHER detrimental effects on the human body than weight loss/gain. People with PCOS, Hypo/Hyperthyroid, hormonal imbalances, etc. have a HARD TIME with large (even smaller) amounts of sugar and carbs. Their bodies dont process it the same as people who dont have these issues. Reducing sugar and carb intake is vital for people with these diseases/illnesses/issues (whatever you want to call it) to be able to ATTEMPT to lose any weight.
People with peanut allergies have a HARD TIME eating peanuts.
Does that mean people without peanut allergies should avoid peanuts?
I'm so confused as to why you replied with this. Do you have hypothyroid? Diabetes? PCOS? Had a kid recently? All these ossues and more have an effect on what we can and shouldn't put in our bodies. These issues make it extremely hard for someone to lose weight. I was simply providing an alternative answer to the OP.
I replied because none of those things you mentioned have any relevance unless you actually have one of those conditions. There has been zero indication until just now that the OP or anyone else had one of those conditions.
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While you are correct in it's effect on weight loss vs macros and calorie burn, I think the OP is trying to eliminate it from her diet. It doesn't matter "if it fits your macros"... sugar has OTHER detrimental effects on the human body than weight loss/gain. People with PCOS, Hypo/Hyperthyroid, hormonal imbalances, etc. have a HARD TIME with large (even smaller) amounts of sugar and carbs. Their bodies dont process it the same as people who dont have these issues. Reducing sugar and carb intake is vital for people with these diseases/illnesses/issues (whatever you want to call it) to be able to ATTEMPT to lose any weight.
Thank You, I do have PCOS.
You're very welcome. I have Hypothyroid for which I take medication. No matter how much exercise I do, it always comes down to the reduction of carbs and sugar in my diet no matter what any "if it fits your macros" bro crap someone tries to preach. Lol0 -
While you are correct in it's effect on weight loss vs macros and calorie burn, I think the OP is trying to eliminate it from her diet. It doesn't matter "if it fits your macros"... sugar has OTHER detrimental effects on the human body than weight loss/gain. People with PCOS, Hypo/Hyperthyroid, hormonal imbalances, etc. have a HARD TIME with large (even smaller) amounts of sugar and carbs. Their bodies dont process it the same as people who dont have these issues. Reducing sugar and carb intake is vital for people with these diseases/illnesses/issues (whatever you want to call it) to be able to ATTEMPT to lose any weight.
But if the goal is to reduce sugar, then we're back to .. Say no to the grapes and yes to the chocolate chips ...0 -
While you are correct in it's effect on weight loss vs macros and calorie burn, I think the OP is trying to eliminate it from her diet. It doesn't matter "if it fits your macros"... sugar has OTHER detrimental effects on the human body than weight loss/gain. People with PCOS, Hypo/Hyperthyroid, hormonal imbalances, etc. have a HARD TIME with large (even smaller) amounts of sugar and carbs. Their bodies dont process it the same as people who dont have these issues. Reducing sugar and carb intake is vital for people with these diseases/illnesses/issues (whatever you want to call it) to be able to ATTEMPT to lose any weight.
Thank You, I do have PCOS.
You're very welcome. I have Hypothyroid for which I take medication. No matter how much exercise I do, it always comes down to the reduction of carbs and sugar in my diet no matter what any "if it fits your macros" bro crap someone tries to preach. Lol
So your assumption of an IIFYM'r is they do nothing but binge on cake and ice cream??????? and are into Bro Science??? Just wondering??? Cause that could not be any further from the truth........0 -
While you are correct in it's effect on weight loss vs macros and calorie burn, I think the OP is trying to eliminate it from her diet. It doesn't matter "if it fits your macros"... sugar has OTHER detrimental effects on the human body than weight loss/gain. People with PCOS, Hypo/Hyperthyroid, hormonal imbalances, etc. have a HARD TIME with large (even smaller) amounts of sugar and carbs. Their bodies dont process it the same as people who dont have these issues. Reducing sugar and carb intake is vital for people with these diseases/illnesses/issues (whatever you want to call it) to be able to ATTEMPT to lose any weight.
Thank You, I do have PCOS.
You're very welcome. I have Hypothyroid for which I take medication. No matter how much exercise I do, it always comes down to the reduction of carbs and sugar in my diet no matter what any "if it fits your macros" bro crap someone tries to preach. Lol
Uh... excuse me?
So a bunch of people come in here, trying to be helpful to the OP and her stance on sugar (because no one knew she had PCOS and we all assumed it was a mental block of some kind), and now we're the bad people? Pardon me, but IIFYM is not a bunch of "bro crap," as you so eloquently put it. Furthermore, it wasn't until we were dozens of posts in and on page four of this topic that the OP even mentioned any health-related problems that might occur from her overindulging in sugar due to PCOS or any other type of existing predisposition.0 -
Clif Bars
nothing refined[img][/img]
I was under the impression that Clif Bars didn't use refined sugars. If I'm mistaken, my apologies.
You should check that ingredients label. Clif bars are full of refined ingredients. The word "organic" in front of them doesn't mean they're unrefined.
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I thought they used Brown Rice Syrup as a sweetener which isn't considered a refined sugar, is it? I didn't say anything about Clif Bars not having anything refined. Again, i eat refined everything all the time. It's of no matter to me.0 -
Clif Bars
nothing refined[img][/img]
I was under the impression that Clif Bars didn't use refined sugars. If I'm mistaken, my apologies.
You should check that ingredients label. Clif bars are full of refined ingredients. The word "organic" in front of them doesn't mean they're unrefined.
I thought they used Brown Rice Syrup as a sweetener which isn't considered a refined sugar, is it? I didn't say anything about Clif Bars not having anything refined. Again, i eat refined everything all the time. It's of no matter to me.
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Are you being facetious again? :P Think about brown rice. ... Now think about brown rice syrup.
How much refinement and processing do you think went into making that little grain into a sweetened syrup?0 -
Brown rice syrup is as processed as table sugar.
Also, PCOS doesn't make your body react differently to "refined" sugar vs "natural" sugar. So, uh...0 -
Clif Bars
nothing refined[img][/img]
I was under the impression that Clif Bars didn't use refined sugars. If I'm mistaken, my apologies.
You should check that ingredients label. Clif bars are full of refined ingredients. The word "organic" in front of them doesn't mean they're unrefined.
I thought they used Brown Rice Syrup as a sweetener which isn't considered a refined sugar, is it? I didn't say anything about Clif Bars not having anything refined. Again, i eat refined everything all the time. It's of no matter to me.
Are you being facetious again? :P Think about brown rice. ... Now think about brown rice syrup.
How much refinement and processing do you think went into making that little grain into a sweetened syrup?
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Hey now, I know it's refined...but it's not a refined sugar which is what I said I didn't eat on my cycling trips. Semantics, I know, but still. I realize it has to be a refined sweetener, but the guy called me out for saying that a Clif Bar didn't have refined sugar. Not "refined" anything.
Oh, and I'm not debating, I'm asking cause I don't really know.0 -
I thought they used Brown Rice Syrup as a sweetener which isn't considered a refined sugar, is it? I didn't say anything about Clif Bars not having anything refined. Again, i eat refined everything all the time. It's of no matter to me.
Are you being facetious again? :P Think about brown rice. ... Now think about brown rice syrup.
How much refinement and processing do you think went into making that little grain into a sweetened syrup?
Hey now, I know it's refined...but it's not a refined sugar which is what I said I didn't eat on my cycling trips. Semantics, I know, but still. I realize it has to be a refined sweetener, but the guy called me out for saying that a Clif Bar didn't have refined sugar. Not "refined" anything.
Oh, and I'm not debating, I'm asking cause I don't really know.
Brown rice (malt) syrup, also known as rice syrup or rice malt, is a sweetener derived by culturing cooked rice with enzymes (usually from dried barley sprouts) to break down the starches, then straining off the liquid and reducing it by cooking until the desired consistency is reached. The final product is 45% maltose, 3% glucose, and 52% maltotriose.
So it's refined sugar.0 -
Why does everything on here turn into a debate? It gets so old. The OP wants to cut out sugar....so what? She doesn't need a reason that anyone else approves of.
AMEN!
LOL this,its as simple as Amen too. OP do what you want to do its your body 0 -
Clif Bars
nothing refined[img][/img]
I was under the impression that Clif Bars didn't use refined sugars. If I'm mistaken, my apologies.
You should check that ingredients label. Clif bars are full of refined ingredients. The word "organic" in front of them doesn't mean they're unrefined.
I thought they used Brown Rice Syrup as a sweetener which isn't considered a refined sugar, is it? I didn't say anything about Clif Bars not having anything refined. Again, i eat refined everything all the time. It's of no matter to me.
Are you being facetious again? :P Think about brown rice. ... Now think about brown rice syrup.
How much refinement and processing do you think went into making that little grain into a sweetened syrup?
Hey now, I know it's refined...but it's not a refined sugar which is what I said I didn't eat on my cycling trips. Semantics, I know, but still. I realize it has to be a refined sweetener, but the guy called me out for saying that a Clif Bar didn't have refined sugar. Not "refined" anything.
Oh, and I'm not debating, I'm asking cause I don't really know.
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I see. Hmm... I guess I've always considered anything that you add to something to increase how "sweet" it tastes a form of sugar, considering (on a molecular basis) they're not terribly distinct. So when I say "refined sugar," I literally mean--a naturally occurring sweetness which has been processed to a point that it can easily be added to other things to make it sweet. Brown rice syrup is just another form of sugar. Agave syrup is a form of sugar. High fructose corn syrup is a form of sugar. Honey is a form of sugar. Etc.0 -
I thought they used Brown Rice Syrup as a sweetener which isn't considered a refined sugar, is it? I didn't say anything about Clif Bars not having anything refined. Again, i eat refined everything all the time. It's of no matter to me.
Are you being facetious again? :P Think about brown rice. ... Now think about brown rice syrup.
How much refinement and processing do you think went into making that little grain into a sweetened syrup?
Hey now, I know it's refined...but it's not a refined sugar which is what I said I didn't eat on my cycling trips. Semantics, I know, but still. I realize it has to be a refined sweetener, but the guy called me out for saying that a Clif Bar didn't have refined sugar. Not "refined" anything.
Oh, and I'm not debating, I'm asking cause I don't really know.
Brown rice (malt) syrup, also known as rice syrup or rice malt, is a sweetener derived by culturing cooked rice with enzymes (usually from dried barley sprouts) to break down the starches, then straining off the liquid and reducing it by cooking until the desired consistency is reached. The final product is 45% maltose, 3% glucose, and 52% maltotriose.
So it's refined sugar.
All the websites I am reading says otherwise. Moot point though, just looked at the ingredients of the Clif Bars I eat and it doesn't use that stuff anyway...0 -
I thought they used Brown Rice Syrup as a sweetener which isn't considered a refined sugar, is it? I didn't say anything about Clif Bars not having anything refined. Again, i eat refined everything all the time. It's of no matter to me.
Are you being facetious again? :P Think about brown rice. ... Now think about brown rice syrup.
How much refinement and processing do you think went into making that little grain into a sweetened syrup?
Hey now, I know it's refined...but it's not a refined sugar which is what I said I didn't eat on my cycling trips. Semantics, I know, but still. I realize it has to be a refined sweetener, but the guy called me out for saying that a Clif Bar didn't have refined sugar. Not "refined" anything.
Oh, and I'm not debating, I'm asking cause I don't really know.
Brown rice (malt) syrup, also known as rice syrup or rice malt, is a sweetener derived by culturing cooked rice with enzymes (usually from dried barley sprouts) to break down the starches, then straining off the liquid and reducing it by cooking until the desired consistency is reached. The final product is 45% maltose, 3% glucose, and 52% maltotriose.
So it's refined sugar.
All the websites I am reading says otherwise. Moot point though, just looked at the ingredients of the Clif Bars I eat and it doesn't use that stuff anyway...
Which do you eat?0 -
I thought they used Brown Rice Syrup as a sweetener which isn't considered a refined sugar, is it? I didn't say anything about Clif Bars not having anything refined. Again, i eat refined everything all the time. It's of no matter to me.
Are you being facetious again? :P Think about brown rice. ... Now think about brown rice syrup.
How much refinement and processing do you think went into making that little grain into a sweetened syrup?
Hey now, I know it's refined...but it's not a refined sugar which is what I said I didn't eat on my cycling trips. Semantics, I know, but still. I realize it has to be a refined sweetener, but the guy called me out for saying that a Clif Bar didn't have refined sugar. Not "refined" anything.
Oh, and I'm not debating, I'm asking cause I don't really know.
Brown rice (malt) syrup, also known as rice syrup or rice malt, is a sweetener derived by culturing cooked rice with enzymes (usually from dried barley sprouts) to break down the starches, then straining off the liquid and reducing it by cooking until the desired consistency is reached. The final product is 45% maltose, 3% glucose, and 52% maltotriose.
So it's refined sugar.
All the websites I am reading says otherwise. Moot point though, just looked at the ingredients of the Clif Bars I eat and it doesn't use that stuff anyway...
Just curious which Clif bar doesn't have Brown Rice Syrup last I checked and I believe I have tried dang near all of them and they all did...0 -
Oatmeal Raisin Energy bar is my preference. It seems they have all switched to evaporated cane juice...
Edit: which doesn't seem to be a refined sugar by definition...0 -
Oatmeal Raisin Energy bar is my preference. It seems they have all switched to evaporated cane juice...
Edit: which doesn't seem to be a refined sugar by definition...
:laugh:
I'm just going to assume you're kidding; otherwise, the way you're manipulating the English language is completely depressing.0 -
I think the general rule for any cold turkey separation is three weeks. The longer you can go the easier it should get. I'm a sugar-aholic, though. So I question if I could ever REALLY completely cut it out. I wish you luck. It'll be really good for you!0
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