phil robertson suspended from duck dynasty
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7 pages in to this thread, and the reality that A&E has succeeded in their aim becomes glaringly apparent.
Curious to know what their aim? was I dont watch that channel. Not even the one of the greatest shows on TV. "The Walking Dead"
Are they trying to sell more Duck Dynasty Chia Heads for the last holiday push???
No successes here. Im still watching the History and Science channels though. You can keep the artsy fartsy stuff.
I'll refer you to my earlier comment on page 6 of the thread.Page 2 of thread, someone beat me to the punch:... <snip>
I sure hope they won't lose any viewing audience or product sales from this, oh wait, yeah, they won't. They will now enjoy some elevated time in the spotlight though...wait a minute, were we tricked by a marketing ploy?
The internet is now a buzz, fueling a spike in attention on A&E and Duck Dynasty. Well played you devious *kitten*! Well played!
*edited* to correct believe with belief.0 -
You know how black people are born black and they kinda, sorta stay black for their entire lives? They can't change it. It's sorta racist to be prejudice against someone who can't change who they are.
Well, it's basically the same thing with gay people. You see, my friends, you cannot pick and choose what gender you are attracted to. You saying you "disagree with the gay lifestyle" is really just some bull****.
When you decided the day you were straight, let me know! I'm sure it was a real difficult decision for you.
A little late. Read the entire thread. This statement from Page 2 is basically exactly how I feel about it.
Yes, he can have an opinion, but in this case, his opinion was bigoted. Good riddance.0 -
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, however ignorant they might be. But let's all go ahead and act shocked that he's a racist homophobe.
ETA: I don't waste my time on garbage reality tv anyway. The best thing I've ever done was to axe my cable.0 -
Its BS....he was asked a question and he answered, nothing more than that. Totally losing faith in the human race.
^^ This
But then A&E expressed *their* opinion that they would prefer to discontinue paying someone whose views have the potential to drive away advertising dollars. Nothing more than that.
Sellout? Didn't A&E start their reality showcase with Queer Eye for the Straight Guy? I think the are sticking with their original demographic.0 -
In all fairness if the situation was reversed and a gay person said the same thing about a straight person, what would happen??? Thoughts on this?
My thought, nothing....as special interest groups are pretty much running America0 -
In all fairness if the situation was reversed and a gay person said the same thing about a straight person, what would happen??? Thoughts on this?
My thought, nothing....as special interest groups are pretty much running America.
Agreed and I'm sick of it.
ETA: Oops, I guess I shouldn't have said that. I probably offended someone. :sick:0 -
my cousin is a transvestite. He WASN'T BORN one. He was married, had 3 kids and one day he DECIDED he wanted to become a 6'3 215 pound woman.
There are people who don't like me, won't date or even be my friend because I am black. I DON'T CARE! There are PREFERENCES! Most of the people on this post have never dated outside their race. Doesn't mean there is something wrong with them or they are prejudice. They just have preferences.
I have gay friends, but I don't wanna dude kissing on me..lol. What he said was no big deal.
And A&E also HAS the right to have him on the show or not. Do I think they are wrong? Yes I do. Does it matter? Not really. They support the gay and lesbian community and that is why they suspended them. I can't come to work saying that.
The only thing I disagree with is that they said is it doesn't reflect Duck Dynasty. Well if it doesn't why suspend him?0 -
A little late. Read the entire thread. This statement from Page 2 is basically exactly how I feel about it.
Yes, he can have an opinion, but in this case, his opinion was bigoted. Good riddance.
Bigot: A term used by a liberal to to describe a person that disagrees with their viewpoint or opinion. However, the term can NEVER be used to describe said liberal for their intolerance of differing opinions.0 -
Let's all be clear.
No one should die. lol
really? because I know a lot of really stupid people who just throw themselves off a bridge- because they are making life harder for the rest of us.
We are not all equal and special and worth while snow flakes. Seriously- we have warning labels for hot coffee- that YOU ORDERED.
our society is messed up- there should be open season on stupid.
Have you seen The Purge yet? Kind of a brilliant idea!
I haven't. perhaps I should- I was mildly interested in seeing it. I not sure I'm on board with doing what ever you want for a night- maybe it's a start in the right direction!!! I do agree with removing the warning labels and letting people sort themselves out- also not catering to the lowest common denominator. I feel like Sparta was on to something.0 -
Freedom of speech and freedom of religion. He was suspended based on sharing his religious beliefs. He was honest about his beliefs and also went on to say he "loved all humanity" and several times stated it was " just his belief and opinion that it was a sin" If you are a christian and believe what the Bible says then it has several references to "homosexuality is a sin" "an abomination". I share a lot of the same opinions as he does but I also respect others decisions and treat everyone the same. It is not for me to judge others. I think that is what he was trying to say also. He believes it is a sin just like the other things he listed were sins according to the Bible. This country is going to crap. We have no freedoms any longer. He should not have been suspended for this. People need to stop getting so offended about every little thing. It is absolutely ridiculous that people have to walk on eggshells in a "free" country. I am a Christian and I believe what the Bible says, but guess what, I don't treat someone differently just because I don't agree with their lifestyle. That is not my place. I have friends that are gay, lesbian, atheist , Christian, Mormon, Buddhist, all races and religions. They all know my beliefs and respect my beliefs as I do theirs. This is the perfect example of "making a mountain out of a molehill" . If you are comfortable with your way of life and don't think you are somehow doing the wrong thing then why are you so worried about the possibility you " may' be judged. If your gonna choose it, be proud of it, other wise your heart really isn't in it as much as it should be. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and not everyone is going to agree or share the same opinion. That is the beautiful thing about this country. We DONT have to think the way we are told to think. If we did this would be a communist country and NOBODY wants that right?!:noway:0
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Its BS....he was asked a question and he answered, nothing more than that. Totally losing faith in the human race.
^^ This
But then A&E expressed *their* opinion that they would prefer to discontinue paying someone whose views have the potential to drive away advertising dollars. Nothing more than that.
Sellout? Didn't A&E start their reality showcase with Queer Eye for the Straight Guy? I think the are sticking with their original demographic.
How does saying you don't like boobs equate to comparing someone's sexual orientation to bestiality while also condemning them?0 -
In all fairness if the situation was reversed and a gay person said the same thing about a straight person, what would happen??? Thoughts on this?
My thought, nothing....
Nothing, cause being straight isn't something that is widely discriminated against. It's not the same thing.0 -
In all fairness if the situation was reversed and a gay person said the same thing about a straight person, what would happen??? Thoughts on this?
My thought, nothing....as special interest groups are pretty much running America.
Agreed and I'm sick of it.
ETA: Oops, I guess I shouldn't have said that. I probably offended someone. :sick:0 -
Has nothing to do with his rights or whether he was right or wrong. He didn't represent his employer the way they wanted. Gotta play the game.
By the way, what is Duck Dynasty?0 -
Let's all be clear.
No one should die. lol
really? because I know a lot of really stupid people who just throw themselves off a bridge- because they are making life harder for the rest of us.
We are not all equal and special and worth while snow flakes. Seriously- we have warning labels for hot coffee- that YOU ORDERED.
our society is messed up- there should be open season on stupid.
I never said people weren't stupid. Enough stupid to go around for everyone.0 -
Freedom of speech and freedom of religion. He was suspended based on sharing his religious beliefs. He was honest about his beliefs and also went on to say he "loved all humanity" and several times stated it was " just his belief and opinion that it was a sin" If you are a christian and believe what the Bible says then it has several references to "homosexuality is a sin" "an abomination". I share a lot of the same opinions as he does but I also respect others decisions and treat everyone the same. It is not for me to judge others. I think that is what he was trying to say also. He believes it is a sin just like the other things he listed were sins according to the Bible. This country is going to crap. We have no freedoms any longer. He should not have been suspended for this. People need to stop getting so offended about every little thing. It is absolutely ridiculous that people have to walk on eggshells in a "free" country. I am a Christian and I believe what the Bible says, but guess what, I don't treat someone differently just because I don't agree with their lifestyle. That is not my place. I have friends that are gay, lesbian, atheist , Christian, Mormon, Buddhist, all races and religions. They all know my beliefs and respect my beliefs as I do theirs. This is the perfect example of "making a mountain out of a molehill" . If you are comfortable with your way of life and don't think you are somehow doing the wrong thing then why are you so worried about the possibility you " may' be judged. If your gonna choose it, be proud of it, other wise your heart really isn't in it as much as it should be. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and not everyone is going to agree or share the same opinion. That is the beautiful thing about this country. We DONT have to think the way we are told to think. If we did this would be a communist country and NOBODY wants that right?!:noway:
My religion says I should sacrifice a goat every December. Doesn't mean I won't get canned if I do it in the parking lot of my company.0 -
Freedom of speech and freedom of religion. He was suspended based on sharing his religious beliefs. He was honest about his beliefs and also went on to say he "loved all humanity" and several times stated it was " just his belief and opinion that it was a sin" If you are a christian and believe what the Bible says then it has several references to "homosexuality is a sin" "an abomination". I share a lot of the same opinions as he does but I also respect others decisions and treat everyone the same. It is not for me to judge others. I think that is what he was trying to say also. He believes it is a sin just like the other things he listed were sins according to the Bible. This country is going to crap. We have no freedoms any longer. He should not have been suspended for this. People need to stop getting so offended about every little thing. It is absolutely ridiculous that people have to walk on eggshells in a "free" country. I am a Christian and I believe what the Bible says, but guess what, I don't treat someone differently just because I don't agree with their lifestyle. That is not my place. I have friends that are gay, lesbian, atheist , Christian, Mormon, Buddhist, all races and religions. They all know my beliefs and respect my beliefs as I do theirs. This is the perfect example of "making a mountain out of a molehill" . If you are comfortable with your way of life and don't think you are somehow doing the wrong thing then why are you so worried about the possibility you " may' be judged. If your gonna choose it, be proud of it, other wise your heart really isn't in it as much as it should be. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and not everyone is going to agree or share the same opinion. That is the beautiful thing about this country. We DONT have to think the way we are told to think. If we did this would be a communist country and NOBODY wants that right?!:noway:
My religion says I should sacrifice a goat every December. Doesn't mean I won't get canned if I do it in the parking lot of my company.
Are you going to eat the goat?0 -
I think there are so many more important things going on in the world than the personal beliefs and outspoken views of one man. While it takes one to start a revolution, it can also take one to set back another.0
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Freedom of speech and freedom of religion. He was suspended based on sharing his religious beliefs. He was honest about his beliefs and also went on to say he "loved all humanity" and several times stated it was " just his belief and opinion that it was a sin" If you are a christian and believe what the Bible says then it has several references to "homosexuality is a sin" "an abomination". I share a lot of the same opinions as he does but I also respect others decisions and treat everyone the same. It is not for me to judge others. I think that is what he was trying to say also. He believes it is a sin just like the other things he listed were sins according to the Bible. This country is going to crap. We have no freedoms any longer. He should not have been suspended for this. People need to stop getting so offended about every little thing. It is absolutely ridiculous that people have to walk on eggshells in a "free" country. I am a Christian and I believe what the Bible says, but guess what, I don't treat someone differently just because I don't agree with their lifestyle. That is not my place. I have friends that are gay, lesbian, atheist , Christian, Mormon, Buddhist, all races and religions. They all know my beliefs and respect my beliefs as I do theirs. This is the perfect example of "making a mountain out of a molehill" . If you are comfortable with your way of life and don't think you are somehow doing the wrong thing then why are you so worried about the possibility you " may' be judged. If your gonna choose it, be proud of it, other wise your heart really isn't in it as much as it should be. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and not everyone is going to agree or share the same opinion. That is the beautiful thing about this country. We DONT have to think the way we are told to think. If we did this would be a communist country and NOBODY wants that right?!:noway:
Well said! This explains my thoughts exactly.0 -
In all fairness if the situation was reversed and a gay person said the same thing about a straight person, what would happen??? Thoughts on this?
My thought, nothing....
Nothing, cause being straight isn't something that is widely discriminated against. It's not the same thing.
As I said earlier. How many gay people condemn or disagree with straight people/relationships. They don't.
They recognize more than ANYONE that your orientation is not a choice.0 -
I am not reading all 9 pages of posts! So if I repeated something, oh well!
Phil Robertson is a great man in my opinion. Very inspiring. He is a Christian. DUH! The christian bible has a view point on homosexuality. He is just sticking up to it. No surprises there! The fact that he answered the question the way he did should be no surprise to anyone. In fact, some may set he was set up, because there are some people that have a predijice towards christianity.
Hats off to Phil for sticking with his beliefs.
Now, does A&E have a right to suspend him? Yup! This is a free market society in America. I believe in free enterprise.
Because of free market and enterprise, I as a consumer have the right to continue toi watch the show or not watch the show because.... I want to or don't want to for whatever reason I feel. I watch the show, watch their advertisements, buy their Chia Pets or Bearded blankets, or D&D bandaids, and they make money. I decide to no longer be a fan of the show, then I can decide to take my money elsewhere. That is my exercise and right!
So? I considered myself a huge fan of D&D. Now A&E made their decision? I can chose to react however I choose. And many other people may decide to continue to watch the show, start watching the show, or stop watching the show. Free market works both ways. So we will see if A&E made the right decision or not by how America and it's fans react. You can say a whole bunch but if you continue to watch the show, then you basically by default agree with A&E's decision and throw Phil Robertson under the bus. Or maybe you don't like what Phil Robertson said and you support what A&E did. Free market!
Now, I know many Christians who watch the show or became really big fans of the show. I would love to see them all put their money where their mouth is and see if all the christian fan base continue to watch the show and buy the products or not. It's a great show. It sucks that politics and predijuices get in the way.
You may say that christians are predijuice against homosexuals. But there are people in general that are predijuice against christianity as well. it works both ways baby. Now is the time for Christians to stand up for what they really believe in and show corporate pansies what they are made of.0 -
Has nothing to do with his rights or whether he was right or wrong. He didn't represent his employer the way they wanted. Gotta play the game.
By the way, what is Duck Dynasty?
Every employment contract I have signed has a clause that says "This agreement can be terminated by either party at any time for any reason"
You can be fired for facebook posts. You can get fired for a DUI. You can be terminated for wearing a blue shirt on red sweater day ....0 -
Yes, he can have an opinion, but in this case, his opinion was bigoted. Good riddance.
Spoken like a true liberal bigot.0 -
if you cant say anything nice dont say anything at all
better to have everyone believe you are a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt
keep your mouth shut
PS-Did anyone expect anything different?0 -
By the way, what is Duck Dynasty?
^^^ This exactly!0 -
Touche'. See my post from page 8 lol.0
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Yes, he can have an opinion, but in this case, his opinion was bigoted. Good riddance.
Spoken like a true liberal bigot.
Do tell how my post was bigoted. This should be good.0 -
I am not reading all 9 pages of posts! So if I repeated something, oh well!
Phil Robertson is a great man in my opinion. Very inspiring. He is a Christian. DUH! The christian bible has a view point on homosexuality. He is just sticking up to it. No surprises there! The fact that he answered the question the way he did should be no surprise to anyone. In fact, some may set he was set up, because there are some people that have a predijice towards christianity.
Hats off to Phil for sticking with his beliefs.
Now, does A&E have a right to suspend him? Yup! This is a free market society in America. I believe in free enterprise.
Because of free market and enterprise, I as a consumer have the right to continue toi watch the show or not watch the show because.... I want to or don't want to for whatever reason I feel. I watch the show, watch their advertisements, buy their Chia Pets or Bearded blankets, or D&D bandaids, and they make money. I decide to no longer be a fan of the show, then I can decide to take my money elsewhere. That is my exercise and right!
So? I considered myself a huge fan of D&D. Now A&E made their decision? I can chose to react however I choose. And many other people may decide to continue to watch the show, start watching the show, or stop watching the show. Free market works both ways. So we will see if A&E made the right decision or not by how America and it's fans react. You can say a whole bunch but if you continue to watch the show, then you basically by default agree with A&E's decision and throw Phil Robertson under the bus. Or maybe you don't like what Phil Robertson said and you support what A&E did. Free market!
Now, I know many Christians who watch the show or became really big fans of the show. I would love to see them all put their money where their mouth is and see if all the christian fan base continue to watch the show and buy the products or not. It's a great show. It sucks that politics and predijuices get in the way.
You may say that christians are predijuice against homosexuals. But there are people in general that are predijuice against christianity as well. it works both ways baby. Now is the time for Christians to stand up for what they really believe in and show corporate pansies what they are made of.
Well stated!0 -
Yes, he can have an opinion, but in this case, his opinion was bigoted. Good riddance.
Spoken like a true liberal bigot.
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Who cares.0
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