If it is simply calories in and out...
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We don't lose at the same rate as we gain??? I think we do..0
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... its not simply calories in/out without any thinking and just basing it on simple stats, is it?
Yes, it is.0 -
My bank account is basically money in and out...
Yet no one else has the same exact amount of money as I do. Even if we make the same hourly wage.
Deep thoughts.0 -
My bank account is basically money in and out...
Yet no one else has the same exact amount of money as I do. Even if we make the same hourly wage.
Deep thoughts.
Mind. Blown.0 -
This question is like asking "Why don't all cars have the same gas MPG." Gas in vs gas out works, but it depends on the vehicle for the usages of that fuel.0
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When it comes to diet & nutrition, us as humans still have a lot to learn!
Sadly, the large majority is ignorant not only to the knowledge but to what passes by our lips.
Educate, don't discriminate!
If you do not like a debate make your way to other areas of your life you find interesting.
Happy Holidays!!! ????0 -
When it comes to diet & nutrition, us as humans still have a lot to learn!
Sadly, the large majority is ignorant not only to the knowledge but to what passes by our lips.
Educate, don't discriminate!
If you do not like a debate make your way to other areas of your life you find interesting.
Happy Holidays!!! ????0 -
If you do not like a debate make your way to other areas of your life you find interesting.
What debate?Happy Holidays!!! ????
Same to you.0 -
LBM & BMR ..a pro body builder on his off season or on season will burn just staying alive . 1.5 or more the amount i eat working my *kitten* out 6 days a week to maintain lol0
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I'm one of those carb sensitive people you referred to and I retain water like a sponge. High carb meals particularly on a rest day, too much sodium, monthly cycle, increase in weights lifted - any of those cause an easy 2 - 5 pound gain that takes me three days or so to get rid of if I don't repeat any of those things, which I often do. Right now I'm up 10 lbs in 2 days!
I know this about myself. If I didn't tho, based on cals in and out I might think I was overeating instead of reacting to certain foods, stimulus or hormones. Figuring out TDEE can be tricky.0 -
It's SIMPLY in vs. out
People are different, but if you're eating in a deficit you will lose weight except maybe a few extreme examples.
Same goes for eating in a surplus, you will gain weight.0 -
Why do we not all gain/lose weight at the same rate?
Because a lot of people are just dishonest with themselves, just blaming metabolism and not the burger they had for breakfast which they didn't count...0 -
Hey! That's not nice. Where are my supports and motivations?
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Santa should have brought you more toys, OP.0
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Why do we not all gain/lose weight at the same rate?
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Why do we not all gain/lose weight at the same rate?
I originally thought you meant why don't we gain at the same rate we lose. Based on the tone of the thread, It looks like you're asking how come we don't gain or lose at the same rate compared to other people?
Some people are more sensitive to certain things that other, such as water retention. Who knows what our real TDEE is? It's just an estimation. How do we know if our calorie intake is what is stated? There are many variables, and many more within each person.0 -
Its not that simple, as in/out then, is it?
For example:
Metabolic rates - Two people, identical height and weight and muscle mass.
Different metabolic rate thro hormone levels. Same calories would result in different weight gains/losses.
If it was simply in/out, you would just need height/weight/age/sex and would be able to say what they need. Indeed, some people are more sensitive to carbs than others, for example and lose fat or gain muscle in a harder/easier manner than others.
Metabolic rate, derived from height, weight, lean mass, hormone balance, activity level, mitochondrial efficiency, average sleep duration, fidgeting, pH of stomach acids / thermogenic effect of food (a million other tiny variables).
Calories consumed, as offset by bioavailability of nutrients in the specific food consumed, etc.
While the math can get infinitely complex, as complex as our unthinkably complicated bodies, at the end of the day it seems the easiest way to envision weight gain or loss is that eating in a surplus to your unique energy consumption results in a weight gain, and a deficit, weight loss.0 -
Because we don't all eat/exercise at the same rate. :huh:
So using that logic, no exercise and equal calories = same weight gain/loss for each persons?
Different muscle mass, different lifestyles, slight variations in hormone levels and such...
Therefore not simply calories in/out, no?
It is that simple but every person is different.
For example my husband and I can eat the same amount of food, exercise the same amount and intensity but because he's bigger than me he will not only burn more calories but lose more weight than me. Someone who is the same size as me might also lose weight at a different rate because they could have a slightly higher metabolism, a slightly different build than me etc.0 -
I remember Rich Gaspari talking about how he knew exactly how many calories he needed to gain 5 lbs, maintain weight and lose weight all within certain time frames. You don't get that kind of information from some formula, you get it from experimentation and experience. Oh, and this was done all before the interwebs and calorie tracking sites. It was done with pencil and paper and reading.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NtKiBuZzHk0 -
Hey! That's not nice. Where are my supports and motivations?
LOVE! I wasn't talking to you, I was adding to the general thought of your post. :flowerforyou:0 -
I don't believe in measurements of size or distance because we are not all the same exact number of centimeters in height.0
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In for circling the drain.
So in...0 -
Hey! That's not nice. Where are my supports and motivations?
I know the tonging was threatened for someone else, but
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Hey! That's not nice. Where are my supports and motivations?
I know the tonging was threatened for someone else, but
How dare you try to hijack my tonging?0 -
Hey! That's not nice. Where are my supports and motivations?
I know the tonging was threatened for someone else, but
How dare you try to hijack my tonging?
*snort*0 -
Why do I feel this thread is about to go swirling down the Porcelain Bowl of Pedantry?
I like you.
Yup it went down that bowl the minute someone brought up starvation mode and about how our bodies use different types of calories.0 -
All I saw was "in and out"
and I was hooked.0 -
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Because we don't all eat/exercise at the same rate. :huh:
So using that logic, no exercise and equal calories = same weight gain/loss for each persons?
Different muscle mass, different lifestyles, slight variations in hormone levels and such...
Therefore not simply calories in/out, no?
Yes, it still comes down to calories in/out. It is just how to accurately obtain an accurate caloric requirement that is the issue.
Its not that simple, as in/out then, is it?
For example:
Metabolic rates - Two people, identical height and weight and muscle mass.
Different metabolic rate thro hormone levels. Same calories would result in different weight gains/losses.
If it was simply in/out, you would just need height/weight/age/sex and would be able to say what they need. Indeed, some people are more sensitive to carbs than others, for example and lose fat or gain muscle in a harder/easier manner than others.
No, Metobolic rate is part of the cals out side if the equation.
Also if you eat more protein vs carb they take more cals to breakdow, again this would be on the cals out side of the equation.0 -
Why do I feel this thread is about to go swirling down the Porcelain Bowl of Pedantry?
"Porcelain Bowl of Pedantry"? Totally stealing this. Not even gonna be sneaky about it.0
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