Planet Fitness removing squat racks? Aroo?

again, who cares what they do? it's a frwe country, 't go there. done. hang out with your brothers and sisters in iron at golds. everyone is happy. )

that's exactly what I will do should I ever live in the USA

as for who cares.... actually I do care about gym noobs health of cked into their BS fand d of regular gym users. I hope Golds and other gyms with a much more healthy attitude are doing what they can to attract noobs who want to overcome those fears and become the kind of fit strong regular gym users that PF teaches people to hate

This isn't about some kind of magnanimous caring about the "noobs", It's just the usual looking down at people who aren't "real" gym users. It's tedious and boring. I don't miss the "lunks" even a little bit and I am grateful to have a convenient place to work out at a decent price. If folks start to become more advanced, they'll move on.

yeah, having experienced the ****ty attitudes of some of the gym rats hanging around the free weight areas, I don't mind being judgemental. It's a two way street. It's not a matter of hate, just a matter of not having to deal with the crap.

Whatever dude. I've been in and around gyms for 20 years and that's long enough to know that this attitude emanating from the lunks exists solely between your ears. If PF wants to create a business model of selling people low priced memberships to under equipped gyms I couldn't give a damn. Free country and everyone is free to waste time and money however they see fit. And at $10 a month, no harm, no foul.

What is foul, however, is the poisonous bullspit that PF users for their marketing campaign. Noob have an irrational, unfounded fear about walking into a gym and PF preys on that fear, feeds that fear, and uses it to corral people into their purple coated cardio and preacher curl machine studio. Their whole business plan revolves around making an entire class of People, the ones at the most risk of I'll health, afraid to set foot into a gym.

If a few of the people that they frighten throw a few nickels their way to do substandard exercise in a PF facility, great, and to hell with the rest of the people that they have scared off from ever trying to improve their health. but hey, who cares, right?

^^^^ this

Don't go to Planet Fitness, problem solved. The majority of you guys probably don't even go to that gym anyway.

Don't go to Planet Fitness, problem solved. The majority of you guys probably don't even go to that gym anyway.

I'm not sure thats the main complaint here, I think it's the whole hypocrisy. And being able to see how they manipulate fear and insecurities and the expense of other people.

Imagine the outrage if the signage were mocking them.

Well.. I drink out of a gallon jug, wear tanks to show off the back I've worked 2 years to create, AND.. I drop weights, daily. #crossfitter #olylifts Not a "lunk".. a beast. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQfmpXsLV_4

That is me. I'm not ashamed to say I sit around with other friends and discuss how good/hot we're looking. What of it? Is that a crime? I'm working damn hard after all.

I guess this means PF is against looking good/being proud of looking good/Daring to speak about how good those around you look?

If PF doesn't want them....

...my damp, cold garage could do with brightening up!

If PF doesn't want them....

...my damp, cold garage could do with brightening up!

IKR? I actually am currently in the market for some inexpensive squat racks and if they're just throwing those things out.....

Anybody know of a good primer that will stick to powder coating?

I was actually talking about those chicks from the ad, but yeah I'd take another squat rack if it was going free.

...unless you were talking about powder-coating the babes? That's like a weekend in Vegas, right?

If PF doesn't want them....

...my damp, cold garage could do with brightening up!

IKR? I actually am currently in the market for some inexpensive squat racks and if they're just throwing those things out.....

Anybody know of a good primer that will stick to powder coating?

I was actually talking about those chicks from the ad, but yeah I'd take another squat rack if it was going free.

...unless you were talking about powder-coating the babes? That's like a weekend in Vegas, right?

Didn't watch the video.....but i like where this is going. Powder coated Vegas babes and free squat racks. I'll take two of each. I'm a large guy so if I can get a tall, study model of both that would be my preference

If PF doesn't want them....

...my damp, cold garage could do with brightening up!

IKR? I actually am currently in the market for some inexpensive squat racks and if they're just throwing those things out.....

Anybody know of a good primer that will stick to powder coating?

I was actually talking about those chicks from the ad, but yeah I'd take another squat rack if it was going free.

...unless you were talking about powder-coating the babes? That's like a weekend in Vegas, right?

Didn't watch the video.....but i like where this is going. Powder coated Vegas babes and free squat racks. I'll take two of each. I'm a large guy so if I can get a tall, study model of both that would be my preference

Thanks, now I want a powdered sugar donut.

again, who cares what they do? it's a free country, don't go there. done. hang out with your brothers and sisters in iron at golds. everyone is happy. )

Why are you judging Gold's? Gold's was one of the best gyms I was ever a member at and they catered as much, if not more, to the cardio only or beginner than the "meathead" "gymrat".

again, who cares what they do? it's a frwe country, 't go there. done. hang out with your brothers and sisters in iron at golds. everyone is happy. )

that's exactly what I will do should I ever live in the USA

as for who cares.... actually I do care about gym noobs health of cked into their BS fand d of regular gym users. I hope Golds and other gyms with a much more healthy attitude are doing what they can to attract noobs who want to overcome those fears and become the kind of fit strong regular gym users that PF teaches people to hate

This isn't about some kind of magnanimous caring about the "noobs", It's just the usual looking down at people who aren't "real" gym users. It's tedious and boring. I don't miss the "lunks" even a little bit and I am grateful to have a convenient place to work out at a decent price. If folks start to become more advanced, they'll move on.

yeah, having experienced the ****ty attitudes of some of the gym rats hanging around the free weight areas, I don't mind being judgemental. It's a two way street. It's not a matter of hate, just a matter of not having to deal with the crap.

Whatever dude. I've been in and around gyms for 20 years and that's long enough to know that this attitude emanating from the lunks exists solely between your ears. If PF wants to create a business model of selling people low priced memberships to under equipped gyms I couldn't give a damn. Free country and everyone is free to waste time and money however they see fit. And at $10 a month, no harm, no foul.

What is foul, however, is the poisonous bullspit that PF users for their marketing campaign. Noob have an irrational, unfounded fear about walking into a gym and PF preys on that fear, feeds that fear, and uses it to corral people into their purple coated cardio and preacher curl machine studio. Their whole business plan revolves around making an entire class of People, the ones at the most risk of I'll health, afraid to set foot into a gym.

If a few of the people that they frighten throw a few nickels their way to do substandard exercise in a PF facility, great, and to hell with the rest of the people that they have scared off from ever trying to improve their health. but hey, who cares, right?

again, who cares what they do? it's a frwe country, 't go there. done. hang out with your brothers and sisters in iron at golds. everyone is happy. )

that's exactly what I will do should I ever live in the USA

as for who cares.... actually I do care about gym noobs health of cked into their BS fand d of regular gym users. I hope Golds and other gyms with a much more healthy attitude are doing what they can to attract noobs who want to overcome those fears and become the kind of fit strong regular gym users that PF teaches people to hate

This isn't about some kind of magnanimous caring about the "noobs", It's just the usual looking down at people who aren't "real" gym users. It's tedious and boring. I don't miss the "lunks" even a little bit and I am grateful to have a convenient place to work out at a decent price. If folks start to become more advanced, they'll move on.

yeah, having experienced the ****ty attitudes of some of the gym rats hanging around the free weight areas, I don't mind being judgemental. It's a two way street. It's not a matter of hate, just a matter of not having to deal with the crap.

Whatever dude. I've been in and around gyms for 20 years and that's long enough to know that this attitude emanating from the lunks exists solely between your ears. If PF wants to create a business model of selling people low priced memberships to under equipped gyms I couldn't give a damn. Free country and everyone is free to waste time and money however they see fit. And at $10 a month, no harm, no foul.

What is foul, however, is the poisonous bullspit that PF users for their marketing campaign. Noob have an irrational, unfounded fear about walking into a gym and PF preys on that fear, feeds that fear, and uses it to corral people into their purple coated cardio and preacher curl machine studio. Their whole business plan revolves around making an entire class of People, the ones at the most risk of I'll health, afraid to set foot into a gym.

If a few of the people that they frighten throw a few nickels their way to do substandard exercise in a PF facility, great, and to hell with the rest of the people that they have scared off from ever trying to improve their health. but hey, who cares, right?

I agree, well said.

again, who cares what they do? it's a frwe country, 't go there. done. hang out with your brothers and sisters in iron at golds. everyone is happy. )

that's exactly what I will do should I ever live in the USA

as for who cares.... actually I do care about gym noobs health of cked into their BS fand d of regular gym users. I hope Golds and other gyms with a much more healthy attitude are doing what they can to attract noobs who want to overcome those fears and become the kind of fit strong regular gym users that PF teaches people to hate

This isn't about some kind of magnanimous caring about the "noobs", It's just the usual looking down at people who aren't "real" gym users. It's tedious and boring. I don't miss the "lunks" even a little bit and I am grateful to have a convenient place to work out at a decent price. If folks start to become more advanced, they'll move on.

yeah, having experienced the ****ty attitudes of some of the gym rats hanging around the free weight areas, I don't mind being judgemental. It's a two way street. It's not a matter of hate, just a matter of not having to deal with the crap.

Whatever dude. I've been in and around gyms for 20 years and that's long enough to know that this attitude emanating from the lunks exists solely between your ears. If PF wants to create a business model of selling people low priced memberships to under equipped gyms I couldn't give a damn. Free country and everyone is free to waste time and money however they see fit. And at $10 a month, no harm, no foul.

What is foul, however, is the poisonous bullspit that PF users for their marketing campaign. Noob have an irrational, unfounded fear about walking into a gym and PF preys on that fear, feeds that fear, and uses it to corral people into their purple coated cardio and preacher curl machine studio. Their whole business plan revolves around making an entire class of People, the ones at the most risk of I'll health, afraid to set foot into a gym.

If a few of the people that they frighten throw a few nickels their way to do substandard exercise in a PF facility, great, and to hell with the rest of the people that they have scared off from ever trying to improve their health. but hey, who cares, right?

Wait. What? PF exists to keep people from joining gyms?

Interesting take on it. I wonder why the PF I go to is slam packed full of people of all sorts of fitness levels.

That's not what he said, but eh...let's go with it. :yawn:

again, who cares what they do? it's a frwe country, 't go there. done. hang out with your brothers and sisters in iron at golds. everyone is happy. )

that's exactly what I will do should I ever live in the USA

as for who cares.... actually I do care about gym noobs health of cked into their BS fand d of regular gym users. I hope Golds and other gyms with a much more healthy attitude are doing what they can to attract noobs who want to overcome those fears and become the kind of fit strong regular gym users that PF teaches people to hate

This isn't about some kind of magnanimous caring about the "noobs", It's just the usual looking down at people who aren't "real" gym users. It's tedious and boring. I don't miss the "lunks" even a little bit and I am grateful to have a convenient place to work out at a decent price. If folks start to become more advanced, they'll move on.

yeah, having experienced the ****ty attitudes of some of the gym rats hanging around the free weight areas, I don't mind being judgemental. It's a two way street. It's not a matter of hate, just a matter of not having to deal with the crap.

Whatever dude. I've been in and around gyms for 20 years and that's long enough to know that this attitude emanating from the lunks exists solely between your ears. If PF wants to create a business model of selling people low priced memberships to under equipped gyms I couldn't give a damn. Free country and everyone is free to waste time and money however they see fit. And at $10 a month, no harm, no foul.

What is foul, however, is the poisonous bullspit that PF users for their marketing campaign. Noob have an irrational, unfounded fear about walking into a gym and PF preys on that fear, feeds that fear, and uses it to corral people into their purple coated cardio and preacher curl machine studio. Their whole business plan revolves around making an entire class of People, the ones at the most risk of I'll health, afraid to set foot into a gym.

If a few of the people that they frighten throw a few nickels their way to do substandard exercise in a PF facility, great, and to hell with the rest of the people that they have scared off from ever trying to improve their health. but hey, who cares, right?

For the most part, I can 100% see where you're coming from. There are a few point that I can't, however.

1. Calling the fears that "noobs" have unfounded or irrational. It comes down to an issue of personal confidence and and self-consciousness. And those two things exist in EVERY arena in life. The gym is no different. Overweight people often are self conscious and think that they will be gawked at... especially if they are seen doing something that makes them uncomfortable and that they feel they look stupid, awkward, and uncoordinated doing. It actually does happen, believe it or not. It's not paranoia if it's actually true. It probably doesn't happen as often as people think it does, but that's a human nature trait. That's not exclusive to new people in the gym. Now, maybe all of the amazing people in this thread have never stared at someone who looked a little foolish in public (the gym or anywhere else). And maybe they have never laughed at someone who was uncoordinated and looked struggling, but there are people who have and who do. I heard a story just the other day about a heavy girl who wanted to get into jogging. She was jogging around her neighborhood and this car full of teens driving by rolled down their windows to ridicule her because of her size. Trust me, the fear is not irrational and unfounded. Perhaps the more "noobs" go to the gym and the more comfortable and confident they feel at the gym working out, the less self-conscious they will become and the more the fear will go away. I can understand if you don't have this fear or even if you don't understand it. But please don't dismiss those of us that do have that initial fear or make us seem ridiculous for having some reservations about certain things.

Secondly, PF may very well not have everything for everyone, but no gym does. I have been to many different chains of gyms and I have never found one to have EVERYTHING that I wanted...at least not for a price that I could afford. And if my only options are to go with a gym that has most of the things I need (or meets all of my needs because I'm still a beginner) or turn down my nose at the "substandard equipment" and go back home and do nothing until a worthy gym with ALL the right equipment at the price I need becomes available, I'll take option A. At least I'm doing something.

So, PF may not be enough for a lot of you. That doesn't mean it has no value for anyone. Crappy slogan aside, it fills a niche and that's good enough for me.

For the most part, I can 100% see where you're coming from. There are a few point that I can't, however.

1. Calling the fears that "noobs" have unfounded or irrational. It comes down to an issue of personal confidence and and self-consciousness. ........

you basically just defined "irrational". fearing that something that never happens, or rarely ever ever ever happens is an irrational fear. avoiding something that has a 100% chance of improving your health because there is a .00003% chance that someone will mock you is not the best way to approach things.

It's not irrational if it does happen. And it does happen. It has happened to people that I know. And because it has happened to people that I know it would make sense that I fear it could happen to me in a similar situation. And if I have seen it happen to other people, than it would make sense that I would think it could also happen to me. Also, if I've been guilty of judging or laughing at someone else in a similar situation, it would make sense that I would think that other people would and could do the same to me. Me having a fear that my treadmill will explode would be irrational. Me having a fear that I am uncoordinated (which is a fact) and could look stupid (which I actually opine because I've seen myself workout in a mirror and it's not a cute sight. lol) to other people is perfectly rational.

And when I said it comes down to personal confidence, I meant that you get to a place where you don't care if you look stupid or not. I was that person in the beginning who thought that people would look and stare. But as I continued to go, I felt more confident in my abilities and I cared less at the possibility of other people potentially mocking me. I still do foolish looking things while working out and it still crosses my mind that someone could have seen that and is probably amused. I just no longer care.

Edited to add that I agree with you and everyone else that the marketing is rude. The only thing I take issue with is the idea that there is no value in PF for anybody and anyone who does find value in it is less than or not serious about working out or is to stupid or brainwashed to know that PF is not the pinnacle of all that is working out. Maybe that's not what everyone meant to convey, but that's how it came off to me.