Need serious help with SUGAR!!!!

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  • Muddy_Yogi
    Muddy_Yogi Posts: 1,459 Member
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    What the WHAT! When did they come out with those....silly me and breaking a sugar HABIT and now I miss out on all the fun stuff!
  • lois1426
    lois1426 Posts: 4 Member
    I highly recommend the 21 Day Sugar Detox. It's a book written by Diane Sanfilippo. This is her website: http://balancedbites.com/21dsd. I'm on day 18 and I can't believe how my cravings for sugar and carbs have all but disappeared without "suffering".
  • Can I suggest boiled sweets? I can eat chewy sweet and cakes etc without stopping. I'm not such a fan of boiled sweets and I get a long term sweet satisfaction because if you don't crunch it you can be sucking on those little babies for 30 minutes!

    Works for me... most of the time!!! :wink:

    Nicole xx
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,973 Member
    fructose turns to fat!
    keep your sugar intake to 10%!!!!!

    skullshank and joanne moniz
    Untrue. Fructose doesn't turn to fat if the liver is low in glycogen. Fructose doesn't turn to fat if the energy is used. ANY sugar over consumed will result in fat storage.

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    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • Muddy_Yogi
    Muddy_Yogi Posts: 1,459 Member
    Show me someone that goes through withdrawal symptoms similar to drug or alcohol addicts and watch them be "detoxed" and then MAYBE i will consider food addiction a real thing.

    ^^This! I know addicts that have died detoxing from actual drugs...never have I ever heard of someone dying from not having sugar!
  • Cranquistador
    Cranquistador Posts: 39,744 Member
    cravings =/= addiction
  • Cindyinpg
    Cindyinpg Posts: 3,902 Member
    I am in the moderation, rather than the elimination camp. Prelog a daily treat, within your goals and enjoy. There are lots of tricks to get into the habit of using moderation. Buy the pre-portioned snacks for a while so that you don't have easy access to a large serving. When I am tempted throughout the day by treats, I remind myself that I am having awesome something later and it makes it far easier to stick to the overall plan.
  • lizziebeth1028
    lizziebeth1028 Posts: 3,602 Member
    I have battled sweets all my life. It wasn't so bad when I was in my teens and eating a bag of oreos because I was skinny!! Now I'm FAT. 5'3 and 185lbs AND almost 50! I am a sugar-aholic. I love cookies, donuts, cakes, brownies, not just one piece and walk happily away either. I have to eat it until they are done.

    I am worse now than I have ever been. Being a stress eater doesn't help since my job is very stressful and there is crap to eat everywhere!!

    I've tried just limiting myself to a "serving" so I get my sweets without feeling deprived but it never seems to work.

    Do I quit cold turkey?? Is this to be looked at as any other addiction?

    Thank you all in advance.


    I completely understand because I love sweets too!!! So I weighed the options and decided which would be harder in the long term -

    1. Give up sweets forever (oh what a sad sad world)
    2. Practice willpower, learn discipline, eat healthy and reward myself EVERYDAY with a treat and still lose weight

    I'll take what's behind door number 2. I've learned that I can eat healthy and still enjoy a treat. There are no foods that are off limits to me. I've ditched the 'diet' mentality. It's all about portions and moderation.
  • Sparkie134
    Sparkie134 Posts: 65 Member
    You could have just described my life. 2 years ago a fabulous book called "Nourishing Traditions" by Sally Fallon was recommended to me. Among other things, it describes why refined sugar can cause addictions and WHAT IT DOES TO OUR BODIES. Since reading this I have completely switched to whole sugars such as rapadura, raw honey, whole maple syrup etc.
    The book can be found on Amazon and is VERY reasonably priced.
  • lessofme43
    lessofme43 Posts: 139 Member
    we may be different kind of sugar addicts, but what has worked for me when I'm feeling out of control is to break the addiction cold turkey, and then eventually I can enjoy A treat once in awhile, I feel satisfied, and I don't have to fight the crave constantly. But if I let myself go crazy, I'm starting all over again :( I think one has to be aware always of what they are putting into their body and stay on top of it, not let bad habits get the best of u - good luck!
  • Asherah29
    Asherah29 Posts: 354 Member
    my sugar issue really had to do with magnesium deficiency,once i started taking supplements i was able to stop with 1.
    I still love sweets and eat 1 piece of sweet everyday be it a chocolate,small piece of cake etc.
    There are times when i do feel like eating more sweet like during TOM or stress-I pick up fruit in such cases and still stick to my 1 sweet a day rule.
    I also found that increased vegetable intake helps the body from craving sweets, i think its all the vitamins in vegetables that make sweets less tasty.I added vegetable juices to my diet and now i get an aversion if i eat too much sweet.Try upping your vegetables and eat them until you are full,it keeps you full and not wanting to eat more.

    You know, I have never realized this, but since I have inserted a veggie into every meal, the sweet cravings have been better!
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  • Gemmz2014
    Gemmz2014 Posts: 220
    I think I'm in love with all of you!!! :love:
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    Yes and YES. I battle too and you have to go cold turkey and never look back. Look at it as a cocaine addiction. Do it once and you are back in your cycle. Trust me. It will take a week or two, but you will notice your whole frame of mind change, you will become more peaceful and the cravings will go away. That means the white breads and stuff like that too. Don't even go there.

    No. A cocaine addiction is a physical dependence. Sugar is absolutely not. It's a psychological habit.

    Treating something that is not a physical dependence as one is not the correct way to proceed.
  • beckerkra
    beckerkra Posts: 80 Member
    It's not an addiction. It's a habit, albeit a pretty deeply ingrained one if this has been lifelong behavior.

    I beg to differ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceFyF9px20Y Unless you can provide more scientific evidence than is shown here. Those stating that sugar doesn't have addictive qualities, I would love to see your scientific proof of studies that have been done.

    aaaaaand to prepare for what replies ensue after this...

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  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member
    A tablespoon of sugar is only 45 calories.You need to stop eating fatty foods with sugar in them. Just sayin.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    fructose turns to fat!
    keep your sugar intake to 10%!!!!!

    skullshank and joanne moniz

    Is this, like, a preemptive strike as a joke?
  • GBrady43068
    GBrady43068 Posts: 1,256 Member
    I have battled sweets all my life. It wasn't so bad when I was in my teens and eating a bag of oreos because I was skinny!! Now I'm FAT. 5'3 and 185lbs AND almost 50! I am a sugar-aholic. I love cookies, donuts, cakes, brownies, not just one piece and walk happily away either. I have to eat it until they are done.

    I am worse now than I have ever been. Being a stress eater doesn't help since my job is very stressful and there is crap to eat everywhere!!

    I've tried just limiting myself to a "serving" so I get my sweets without feeling deprived but it never seems to work.

    Do I quit cold turkey?? Is this to be looked at as any other addiction?

    Thank you all in advance.
    1) Long term I think it will make you give up the attempt to change if you say "I'll just never eat sweets again". That's just not realistic since you obviously enjoy them so much.
    2) Since you are a stress eater, the biggest first positive change you could make is to have good alternatives immediately at hand...on your desk, in your desk drawer, etc. Instead of grabbing a donut, grab an apple...grab some celery sticks with a little bit of peanut butter..
    3) As part of my "long term change" thinking, I am committed to exercising more. I don't eat ALL of them back...but I do eat back a good chunk of my exercise calories and they tend to be on "bad" food...something that is higher-fat, higher-sugar etc. that I *like*. My job is to end up healther overall but I am not going to switch to a rabbit diet. The occasional ice cream bar or donut isn't making me fat...it's the consistent overeating...too many calories in and not enough out. Look for ways to add additional activity every single day. Park farther from the front door at the office. Take the stairs. If you can do a face to face meeting instead of phone/email/IM, do that.
    4) Since it's unrealistic to think you'll permanently give up sweets, try not to eat very many PRE-made sweets. Instead cook them yourself and make them healthier. One easy way to make your brownies less fatty and add some protein is to replace the cooking oils with a mixture of approximately 1 cup of water and 1 can of pureed black beans. It SOUNDS awful but trust me...it's not. These have been served to teenagers who ate them and didn't balk at any "funny taste"...the cocoa completely masks the beans and they add plenty of moisture so you don't need the oil.
    5) When you DO have sweets, focus on choosing ones that are a little lower fat/lower calorie. Instead of milk chocolate, do dark most of the time. Twizzlers are a (relatively) low-calorie sweet. Hard candy over chewy candy (because you can suck on a single piece of hard candy for a long time...sometimes a serving of those is 3 pieces for around 100 calories and that might last two hours).
    6) Drink water as you're snacking to fill yourself up more. In many cases, we THINK we're hungry when really the body just wants more water. Give the body what it wants and it will take care of you.
  • JOIN US! I wondered if I could go 40 Days and 40 Nights without sugar, one of my MFP friends challenged me to try, then a few more joined in . . . I'm sending invitations to some of you. If I miss you and you'd like to join, message me and I'll invite you too.

    GOOD NEWS: It IS possible to give up sweets. I failed on Day 38 of my first attempt, so had to start over . . . I have another 18 days to go on this run.

    BAD NEWS: Sweets cravings do not go away for everyone. I like sweets and I want to eat them. In the last 60 Days, I've had a maraschino cherry (I was going to let that slide with a penalty) and three chocolate truffles (clearly a failure on my part) - but I still crave them on a daily. It gets a bit easier after the first few days, but they're ALWAYS there in the background.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    I highly recommend the 21 Day Sugar Detox. It's a book written by Diane Sanfilippo. This is her website: http://balancedbites.com/21dsd. I'm on day 18 and I can't believe how my cravings for sugar and carbs have all but disappeared without "suffering".

    Lol, why are their fruits and veggies and other sugars allowed on this detox, because they are "good" sugars?
  • Asherah29
    Asherah29 Posts: 354 Member
    Show me someone that goes through withdrawal symptoms similar to drug or alcohol addicts and watch them be "detoxed" and then MAYBE i will consider food addiction a real thing.

    ^^This! I know addicts that have died detoxing from actual drugs...never have I ever heard of someone dying from not having sugar!

    No one ever died from compulsory pulling out their hair, or chewing their fingernails. The fact is that there are "things" that can be just a "addicting" and just as difficult to deal with or stop as drugs and alcohol. Have you ever seen someone tight in the grips of Anorexia or OCD? Would you preach to them how the thing ruining their lives is "all in their head" and not an "addiction?" Psychological issues can be far more binding and powerful than drugs - often times psychological issues are the underlying WHY when someone begins an addiction. There is a feeling of helplessness so someone starts hoarding dogs, a lack of control in your life, but you can throw up every day, there is pain held inside that you can't let the world see, but a quick slice to the skin relieves that tension. Perhaps their issue seems to you, to be easily dealt with, but vica versa an issue that seems insurmountable to you might be swept aside by another. Don't belittle someones struggle, you have no idea the challenges that they face, nor the pain in their lives.
  • Cutting out sugar cold turkey is just asking for failure, if you ask me. I used to cut out so many things from my diet cold turkey, believing that it would be better for me, but it wasn't. I began to feel restricted and unhappy; eventually, I just gave up altogether - dieting, exercising, everything! Now, on my third or fourth time around using myfitnesspal, I allow myself to have sweets and sugar, just as long as it fits my macros. Everything in MODERATION!

    Sugar = carbohydrate!
  • kaimeeb
    kaimeeb Posts: 1 Member
    What really helped me was to learn to pause, just for one minute and ask myself, " is this an emotional need, or is it a physical desire". I have tried quitting sugar cold turkey many, many times, which did produce a positive result for a while but I ended up in a far worse place when I just had a serving of something sweet during the sugar-free lifestyle.

    If you really feel that you can permanently quit cold turkey, I take my hat off to you, and anyone else that has done it. It did not work for me and I had to find another way of dealing with it. Here is what I did:

    1. I took supplementation seriously. In my experience, if there are any deficiencies in my diet, I crave all kinds of crap. One of the posters in this thread suggested potassium. I think they are on to something. Find out where you are lacking.

    2. Up your protein intake - the good kind will keep you feeling fuller for longer. Log your current calories on MFP and find out what your current number is, and what your ideal number should be.

    3. How is your exercise? Your endorphin levels are stimulated by exercise and the wonderful thing about the brain’s natural narcotics is that they give you the feelings of well-being without the unpleasant side effects. So, when you feel a carbo craving coming on, go take a brisk walk outside instead of running to the refrigerator. Do this often enough and you’ll find yourself craving the exercise rather than the sweet snack.

    4. Consider a career change if at all feasible, or if not, can you find ways of reducing your stress levels at work?

    5. Finally, if you have checked all the boxes, done all you can to build and sustain your physical and mental well-being and decided that you really do want that donut, eat it slowly, mindfully and gratefully. Appreciate what it is doing for you rather than wishing it never happened. It is just a donut after all. Just make sure that your indulgence is premeditated and deliberate and love yourself with every bite.

    If you take the all-or-none approach, you will experience both in miserable measures. It is like tying to get to an optimal home temperature by adjusting a freezing thermostat to boiling and then boiling to freezing until you break the thermostat. Slow and controlled is the way to adjust. Don't expect your habits to change overnight.

    Be Well!
  • DeadliftAddict
    DeadliftAddict Posts: 746 Member
    fructose turns to fat!
    keep your sugar intake to 10%!!!!!

    skullshank and joanne moniz

    Bull ****!!!
  • linda0372
    linda0372 Posts: 27 Member
    i feel your pain. I am a chocoholic myself (i love chocolate) . it's hard but you have to control it. whenever i feel for a piece of chocolate, i grab some carrot sticks, celery sticks and peanut butter (jiffy has to go cups for dipping). if you don't like carrots, use apple slices and eat it with or without the peanut butter. or have carrot sticks with some hummus (my personal fav is sabra olive oil and rosemary)
  • da_bears10089
    da_bears10089 Posts: 1,791 Member
    Show me someone that goes through withdrawal symptoms similar to drug or alcohol addicts and watch them be "detoxed" and then MAYBE i will consider food addiction a real thing.

    ^^This! I know addicts that have died detoxing from actual drugs...never have I ever heard of someone dying from not having sugar!

    No one ever died from compulsory pulling out their hair, or chewing their fingernails. The fact is that there are "things" that can be just a "addicting" and just as difficult to deal with or stop as drugs and alcohol. Have you ever seen someone tight in the grips of Anorexia or OCD? Would you preach to them how the thing ruining their lives is "all in their head" and not an "addiction?" Psychological issues can be far more binding and powerful than drugs - often times psychological issues are the underlying WHY when someone begins an addiction. There is a feeling of helplessness so someone starts hoarding dogs, a lack of control in your life, but you can throw up every day, there is pain held inside that you can't let the world see, but a quick slice to the skin relieves that tension. Perhaps their issue seems to you, to be easily dealt with, but vica versa an issue that seems insurmountable to you might be swept aside by another. Don't belittle someones struggle, you have no idea the challenges that they face, nor the pain in their lives.

    Lack of self control =/= addiction
  • DeadliftAddict
    DeadliftAddict Posts: 746 Member
    I don't usually recommend that. But if it is truely as bad as you say it is in the OP. You may have to try and quit cold turkey. Nothing anyone says her here is going to help you. This will have to be something you do for yourself.
  • Wow everybody and their brother has a opinion on here!! Even throwing their certifications around. It is an addiction (food in general, not just sugar) not any different from a drug user or alcoholic except you have to have food to live. You go cold turkey and after a few days the cravings start going down, but once you cheat you start all over with cravings, it's different for everyone but there is no such thing as moderation for me, moderation turns into a free for all, you give me an oreo you might as well hand me a shovel to get the whole pack to my mouth faster. Don't care who says it isn't an addiction, it is for some people. I eat all I want and don't track any of it, but all I eat is fruit, veggies, nuts, seeds and beans,and I am losing weight steadily, keeping my addiction at bay. So commence the *kitten* chewing!
  • I have this same issue! What I found is if I drink my special tea, my craving is satisfied! Good Earth Sweet and Spicy Tea, either hot or cold.
  • da_bears10089
    da_bears10089 Posts: 1,791 Member
    Wow everybody and their brother has a opinion on here!! Even throwing their certifications around. It is an addiction not any different from a drug user or alcoholic. You go cold turkey and after a few days the cravings start going down, but once you cheat you start all over with cravings, it's different for everyone but there is no such thing as moderation for me, moderation turns into a free for all, you give me an oreo you might as well hand me a shovel to get the whole pack to my mouth faster. Don't care who says it isn't an addiction, it is for some people. I eat all I want and don't track any of it, but all I eat is fruit, veggies, nuts, seeds and beans,and I am losing weight steadily, keeping my addiction at bay.

    You don't have self discipline when it comes to certain things, it's not an addiction. Do you get physically sick when you don't eat certain things? No. You want them, but you don't have a physical need for them.

    I like Peanut Butter cups. I will eat as many as i please if i have them around. Does that mean i'm addicted to them? Not at all. I just don't care to follow moderation with them.