Need serious help with SUGAR!!!!
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OP if you are not going to eat any "sugar" because you are "addicted" to it ..you do realize that you can no carbohydrates, honey, fruit, etc, because all these things have the evil sugar molecule..
a more sensible approach would be to go 80/20…80% healthy, 20% whatever you want = cookies, donuts, ice cream et…
oh and eat in a calorie deficit, hit macros, work out move more, and you will lose weight.
You don't get it. I'm not referring to fruits. I can eat a piece of fruit and be happy. I'm talking about junk food. Why do some people have to make such a simple topic so complicated?
Because it's not logic. What you describe is not a sugar addiction but a junk food habit.
When have I ever once said I have a sugar "addiction"??
I don't think you did. But many other people in this thread are posting too. There are several people who have said they have a sugar addiction right in this thread. They are part of the conversation too.0 -
I have battled sweets all my life. It wasn't so bad when I was in my teens and eating a bag of oreos because I was skinny!! Now I'm FAT. 5'3 and 185lbs AND almost 50! I am a sugar-aholic. I love cookies, donuts, cakes, brownies, not just one piece and walk happily away either. I have to eat it until they are done.
I am worse now than I have ever been. Being a stress eater doesn't help since my job is very stressful and there is crap to eat everywhere!!
I've tried just limiting myself to a "serving" so I get my sweets without feeling deprived but it never seems to work.
Do I quit cold turkey?? Is this to be looked at as any other addiction?
Thank you all in advance.
Well honestly the best thing you can do is understand it's not an addiction. There's no physical need there, the way there is with nicotine or even alcohol.
Learn to moderate your intake. Learn how to have one donut. There will always be another donut tomorrow. Pre-log your food for the day and stick to the plan. There are other techniques to help you.
for some of us it IS an addiction.
Check out Overeaters Anonymous. You can find a ton of podcasts online. Listen to them and check out local meetings.0 -
When have I ever once said I have a sugar "addiction"??I have battled sweets all my life. It wasn't so bad when I was in my teens and eating a bag of oreos because I was skinny!! Now I'm FAT. 5'3 and 185lbs AND almost 50! I am a sugar-aholic. I love cookies, donuts, cakes, brownies, not just one piece and walk happily away either. I have to eat it until they are done.
I am worse now than I have ever been. Being a stress eater doesn't help since my job is very stressful and there is crap to eat everywhere!!
I've tried just limiting myself to a "serving" so I get my sweets without feeling deprived but it never seems to work.
Do I quit cold turkey?? Is this to be looked at as any other addiction?
Thank you all in advance.
Some of you people just enjoy twisting peoples words because your life is so empty :laugh: Sorry, that's not funny. I feel bad for you.0 -
I have battled sweets all my life. It wasn't so bad when I was in my teens and eating a bag of oreos because I was skinny!! Now I'm FAT. 5'3 and 185lbs AND almost 50! I am a sugar-aholic. I love cookies, donuts, cakes, brownies, not just one piece and walk happily away either. I have to eat it until they are done.
I am worse now than I have ever been. Being a stress eater doesn't help since my job is very stressful and there is crap to eat everywhere!!
I've tried just limiting myself to a "serving" so I get my sweets without feeling deprived but it never seems to work.
Do I quit cold turkey?? Is this to be looked at as any other addiction?
Thank you all in advance.
Well honestly the best thing you can do is understand it's not an addiction. There's no physical need there, the way there is with nicotine or even alcohol.
Learn to moderate your intake. Learn how to have one donut. There will always be another donut tomorrow. Pre-log your food for the day and stick to the plan. There are other techniques to help you.
for some of us it IS an addiction.
Check out Overeaters Anonymous. You can find a ton of podcasts online. Listen to them and check out local meetings.
Thank you. I will do that. It's definitely always a binge when I indulge in something sweet.0 -
This is totally me too. I seriously get it. I'm 5'1" and currently weigh 180. I was sneaking sweets and replacing them before the kids missed it. I could eat nutella by the spoonful and candy by the bagful. I have been successful at going cold turkey on the sugary foods but I have fallen off the wagon many times. It's like alcoholism or something for me. This time using MFP friends and forums for support I am dedicated to recovery. For me it takes a week or two to begin to be comfortable and the cravings to diminish. Now that I'm past that I know that I can't cheat with sweets at all. Zero tolerance, maybe forever. I am not sad over it though, maybe someday I can taste something that's a trigger again...but only out to dinner or something where it's not in the pantry so I don't have more at home to keep stuffing my face with. I feel more energized, focused, and happy when I'm not eating sugar. I do not want the exhausted, drained, unmotivated feelings anymore and that's what the sugar does to me.0
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When have I ever once said I have a sugar "addiction"??I have battled sweets all my life. It wasn't so bad when I was in my teens and eating a bag of oreos because I was skinny!! Now I'm FAT. 5'3 and 185lbs AND almost 50! I am a sugar-aholic. I love cookies, donuts, cakes, brownies, not just one piece and walk happily away either. I have to eat it until they are done.
I am worse now than I have ever been. Being a stress eater doesn't help since my job is very stressful and there is crap to eat everywhere!!
I've tried just limiting myself to a "serving" so I get my sweets without feeling deprived but it never seems to work.
Do I quit cold turkey?? Is this to be looked at as any other addiction?
Thank you all in advance.
Some of you people just enjoy twisting peoples words because your life is so empty :laugh: Sorry, that's not funny. I feel bad for you.
I love when someone who just posted a day or two ago that they just stop caring about health and weight loss about 2 weeks after starting a new diet plan gets all condescending and feels bad for the people who have demonstrated long-term success and commitment.
Seriously. Come on. You have a junk food habit. Yeah, it's tough. You might need help dealing with it. But it's not an addiction as many people are claiming.0 -
OP if you are not going to eat any "sugar" because you are "addicted" to it ..you do realize that you can no carbohydrates, honey, fruit, etc, because all these things have the evil sugar molecule..
a more sensible approach would be to go 80/20…80% healthy, 20% whatever you want = cookies, donuts, ice cream et…
oh and eat in a calorie deficit, hit macros, work out move more, and you will lose weight.
You don't get it. I'm not referring to fruits. I can eat a piece of fruit and be happy. I'm talking about junk food. Why do some people have to make such a simple topic so complicated?
Because it's not logic. What you describe is not a sugar addiction but a junk food habit.
When have I ever once said I have a sugar "addiction"??
I don't think you did. But many other people in this thread are posting too. There are several people who have said they have a sugar addiction right in this thread. They are part of the conversation too.
But if someone think it's an addiction, so what. Who are we to say what is or isn't? I know for a fact that I get the same feeling from sweets as I did from cocaine, pure pleasure. Can't stop at one line, can't stop at one cookie.0 -
When have I ever once said I have a sugar "addiction"??I have battled sweets all my life. It wasn't so bad when I was in my teens and eating a bag of oreos because I was skinny!! Now I'm FAT. 5'3 and 185lbs AND almost 50! I am a sugar-aholic. I love cookies, donuts, cakes, brownies, not just one piece and walk happily away either. I have to eat it until they are done.
I am worse now than I have ever been. Being a stress eater doesn't help since my job is very stressful and there is crap to eat everywhere!!
I've tried just limiting myself to a "serving" so I get my sweets without feeling deprived but it never seems to work.
Do I quit cold turkey?? Is this to be looked at as any other addiction?
Thank you all in advance.
Some of you people just enjoy twisting peoples words because your life is so empty :laugh: Sorry, that's not funny. I feel bad for you.
I love when someone who just posted a day or two ago that they just stop caring about health and weight loss about 2 weeks after starting a new diet plan gets all condescending and feels bad for the people who have demonstrated long-term success and commitment.
Seriously. Come on. You have a junk food habit. Yeah, it's tough. You might need help dealing with it. But it's not an addiction as many people are claiming.
What? :huh:0 -
This is totally me too. I seriously get it. I'm 5'1" and currently weigh 180. I was sneaking sweets and replacing them before the kids missed it. I could eat nutella by the spoonful and candy by the bagful. I have been successful at going cold turkey on the sugary foods but I have fallen off the wagon many times. It's like alcoholism or something for me. This time using MFP friends and forums for support I am dedicated to recovery. For me it takes a week or two to begin to be comfortable and the cravings to diminish. Now that I'm past that I know that I can't cheat with sweets at all. Zero tolerance, maybe forever. I am not sad over it though, maybe someday I can taste something that's a trigger again...but only out to dinner or something where it's not in the pantry so I don't have more at home to keep stuffing my face with. I feel more energized, focused, and happy when I'm not eating sugar. I do not want the exhausted, drained, unmotivated feelings anymore and that's what the sugar does to me.
Hi Karen, Thank you for this awesome post!! Nutella, mmmmmmmmm
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personally i would go cold turkey, only because i am exactly the same as you, once ive had a taste i cant stop, i want more. i recently watched a programme about sugar and they did an MRI scan on someone eating sugar to see the brains response, and it gave the same response that cocaine does only a a smaller scale!! everyone is entitled to their own opinion, i say that i have found it addictive. i also think sugar is party to blame for the amount of weight i gained. when i look at my mother in law who found out she was diabetic then dropped over a stone when she cut out sugar i think im going to try and do the same!! so i know how you feel. im going to go cold turkey for a while, then maybe have an occasional treat when i feel more in control x0
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this is all I got..
saying you are going to do a sugar detox, and then proceeding to eat foods with sugar in them - AKA fruit - is the same as checking yourself into a 21 day rehab for alcohol and then drinking a bottle of wine every night while you are in said rehab for alcohol.
if you truly have a problem with sugar, then eliminate all sugar…
My suggestion would be to reevaluate your relationship with food, as it appears to not be a healthy one.0 -
OP if you are not going to eat any "sugar" because you are "addicted" to it ..you do realize that you can no carbohydrates, honey, fruit, etc, because all these things have the evil sugar molecule..
a more sensible approach would be to go 80/20…80% healthy, 20% whatever you want = cookies, donuts, ice cream et…
oh and eat in a calorie deficit, hit macros, work out move more, and you will lose weight.
You don't get it. I'm not referring to fruits. I can eat a piece of fruit and be happy. I'm talking about junk food. Why do some people have to make such a simple topic so complicated?
Because it's not logic. What you describe is not a sugar addiction but a junk food habit.
When have I ever once said I have a sugar "addiction"??
I don't think you did. But many other people in this thread are posting too. There are several people who have said they have a sugar addiction right in this thread. They are part of the conversation too.
But if someone think it's an addiction, so what. Who are we to say what is or isn't? I know for a fact that I get the same feeling from sweets as I did from cocaine, pure pleasure. Can't stop at one line, can't stop at one cookie.
but can eat fruit and not have same pleasure response…*mindblown*0 -
OP if you are not going to eat any "sugar" because you are "addicted" to it ..you do realize that you can no carbohydrates, honey, fruit, etc, because all these things have the evil sugar molecule..
a more sensible approach would be to go 80/20…80% healthy, 20% whatever you want = cookies, donuts, ice cream et…
oh and eat in a calorie deficit, hit macros, work out move more, and you will lose weight.
You don't get it. I'm not referring to fruits. I can eat a piece of fruit and be happy. I'm talking about junk food. Why do some people have to make such a simple topic so complicated?
Because it's not logic. What you describe is not a sugar addiction but a junk food habit.
When have I ever once said I have a sugar "addiction"??
I don't think you did. But many other people in this thread are posting too. There are several people who have said they have a sugar addiction right in this thread. They are part of the conversation too.
But if someone think it's an addiction, so what. Who are we to say what is or isn't? I know for a fact that I get the same feeling from sweets as I did from cocaine, pure pleasure. Can't stop at one line, can't stop at one cookie.
but can eat fruit and not have same pleasure response…*mindblown*
Not even close! Blows my mind too!!0 -
But if someone think it's an addiction, so what. Who are we to say what is or isn't? I know for a fact that I get the same feeling from sweets as I did from cocaine, pure pleasure. Can't stop at one line, can't stop at one cookie.
So you get the same feeling from 10 grams of sugar in a donut as you do from cocaine. Sure, fine.
But you don't get that feeling from 18 grams of sugar in a banana.
So clearly the problem isn't sugar.0 -
OP if you are not going to eat any "sugar" because you are "addicted" to it ..you do realize that you can no carbohydrates, honey, fruit, etc, because all these things have the evil sugar molecule..
a more sensible approach would be to go 80/20…80% healthy, 20% whatever you want = cookies, donuts, ice cream et…
oh and eat in a calorie deficit, hit macros, work out move more, and you will lose weight.
You don't get it. I'm not referring to fruits. I can eat a piece of fruit and be happy. I'm talking about junk food. Why do some people have to make such a simple topic so complicated?
Because it's not logic. What you describe is not a sugar addiction but a junk food habit.
When have I ever once said I have a sugar "addiction"??
I don't think you did. But many other people in this thread are posting too. There are several people who have said they have a sugar addiction right in this thread. They are part of the conversation too.
But if someone think it's an addiction, so what. Who are we to say what is or isn't? I know for a fact that I get the same feeling from sweets as I did from cocaine, pure pleasure. Can't stop at one line, can't stop at one cookie.
but can eat fruit and not have same pleasure response…*mindblown*
Not even close! Blows my mind too!!
your problem is not with sugar then, it is with food.
I have diagnosed the problem, your mission is to now find a solution.0 -
this is all I got..
saying you are going to do a sugar detox, and then proceeding to eat foods with sugar in them - AKA fruit - is the same as checking yourself into a 21 day rehab for alcohol and then drinking a bottle of wine every night while you are in said rehab for alcohol.
if you truly have a problem with sugar, then eliminate all sugar…
My suggestion would be to reevaluate your relationship with food, as it appears to not be a healthy one.
You see, to me, it's not the same. An apple vs a donut. Not even close. But that's okay for you to believe it is.0 -
Gemmz, I get the problem (not with sugar, but with savoury things).
I watched a really interesting documentary recently where a brain specialist explained that people who overeat a) crave certain foods to the point of distraction and then (b) cruelly, have to eat more of that food than a "normal" (sorry, I can't think of a better word) person to reach the same level of satisfaction about having eaten that food. This definitely happens with me.
Fasting has helped me control over my urges because I've been able to embrace the "have it tomorrow if you still want it" attitude. I'm not suggesting you fast, but I do believe that you can learn to control those urges by rationalizing the truth that you don't HAVE to eat it TODAY (but you can have it tomorrow).
It's like this. Unless you live in the woods in Alaska, you likely are never very far from a donut. Is it possible to think of it along the the lines of the donut you're eating will NOT be the last one you ever get to eat? That you can have it and then have another one another time>
Schedule one (ONE!) into your week, say Friday lunchtime, then have it, love it and wait until next week for the next one?0 -
OP if you are not going to eat any "sugar" because you are "addicted" to it ..you do realize that you can no carbohydrates, honey, fruit, etc, because all these things have the evil sugar molecule..
a more sensible approach would be to go 80/20…80% healthy, 20% whatever you want = cookies, donuts, ice cream et…
oh and eat in a calorie deficit, hit macros, work out move more, and you will lose weight.
You don't get it. I'm not referring to fruits. I can eat a piece of fruit and be happy. I'm talking about junk food. Why do some people have to make such a simple topic so complicated?
Because it's not logic. What you describe is not a sugar addiction but a junk food habit.
When have I ever once said I have a sugar "addiction"??
I don't think you did. But many other people in this thread are posting too. There are several people who have said they have a sugar addiction right in this thread. They are part of the conversation too.
But if someone think it's an addiction, so what. Who are we to say what is or isn't? I know for a fact that I get the same feeling from sweets as I did from cocaine, pure pleasure. Can't stop at one line, can't stop at one cookie.
but can eat fruit and not have same pleasure response…*mindblown*
Not even close! Blows my mind too!!
your problem is not with sugar then, it is with food.
I have diagnosed the problem, your mission is to now find a solution.
If it was with food, why could I sit down at dinner time, eat ONE piece of chicken and be satisfied? Same with pizza. One slice.0 -
Gemmz, I get the problem (not with sugar, but with savoury things).
I watched a really interesting documentary recently where a brain specialist explained that people who overeat a) crave certain foods to the point of distraction and then (b) cruelly, have to eat more of that food than a "normal" (sorry, I can't think of a better word) person to reach the same level of satisfaction about having eaten that food. This definitely happens with me.
Fasting has helped me control over my urges because I've been able to embrace the "have it tomorrow if you still want it" attitude. I'm not suggesting you fast, but I do believe that you can learn to control those urges by rationalizing the truth that you don't HAVE to eat it TODAY (but you can have it tomorrow).
It's like this. Unless you live in the woods in Alaska, you likely are never very far from a donut. Is it possible to think of it along the the lines of the donut you're eating will NOT be the last one you ever get to eat? That you can have it and then have another one another time>
Schedule one (ONE!) into your week, say Friday lunchtime, then have it, love it and wait until next week for the next one?
I will give this some thought, thank you! I do want to try the 21 days no sweets (junk) first.
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