Gluten. Dairy. Sugar.
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Wow I am quite amazed at all the responses here. I put the details of my story in a blog post.
I had about 40 lbs to lose. I cannot reply to all these posts, but who ever is interested can look at my story here:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Elevensies
I only wanted to share my experience as I had this extra weight for many years and until I gave up these things, I was not having much success. I thought others may benefit from learning of my experience.
I know consume these three evils on occasion and in only small amounts. And by 'sugar' iI mean primarily processed sugar. I do not hide from raw honey or fruits, or even maple syrup. :-) But gluten, I am now avoiding permanently. I do not feel well after consuming it. And dairy only in very small amounts.0 -
I was diagnosed with Coeliacs disease a year and a half ago... I can't cut out dairy because I'm not allowed and I think cutting out sugar entirely would make my life a very sad one as this would include fruits. However since cutting out gluten alone I have GAINED weight as my body processes the food in my gut more efficiently. I think to label dropping these three "sins" as a miracle cure is to not understand that each persons body has different needs. Personally I believe I need to cut out fats and salts from my diet to help me loose weight, but another person might be different.
Sorry but somewhat confused - both my kids have Celiac disease. It's a general concept that when you are first diagnosed that you eliminate dairy as it causes many with the disease heart aches. My mom also has celiac and still does not do dairy. So not being "allowed" I'm assuming that is a choice as I can't fathom any Dr who has treated anyone with this condition would not "allow" someone to eliminate a factor that causes many many celiac patients problems. It IS very common that once your celiac is under control and you have had no contamination and the damage is repaired that you can often re-introduce dairy into your diet without problems. I would suggest that if you are struggling with weightloss - find a dr that understands celiac better who would "allow" you to eliminate dairy.0 -
Saying "hey, you're a douche"
"Hey you, *kitten*"
"Mr. Douchetastic, pass me that stapler"
is calling someone a douche.
Implying someone is a douche is no different than blatantly calling someone a douche, just as implying someone is a b!tch is no different than calling someone a b!tch. There are nicer ways to say things.
I didn't imply that. He chose to make the comment about himself. I actually wasn't calling HIM a douche, at all.
you are the one that brought up in response to a comment that I made…if you did not think I was acting in certain way then why did you feel the need to imply it? I could reply in kind, but I will take high road..
If you want to challenge me on what I am saying then point to what you disagree with and call me out on it…no sense in beating around the bushes..0 -
if I said there no need to reply like a b*** then certain people would be on me like white on rice…so I really do not see the difference...0
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I understand the weight part, but if I am measuring the same way I did before, then what explains the weight loss with the whole foods if I am measuring out the same number of calories I ate before. I am using the same measuring method, so the type of food has nothing to do with it.
You asked for an explanation. I gave you one a few posts back. Did you even read it?
Yes I read it, you said if I weighed I would be eating less food. My point is I didn't change how I measure, just the type of food, I am still eating the same amount of calories from my measurements. If all I did was change the type of food, then the measuring is not the whole equation for me. The type of food works for me. I will definitely look into a scale, but I am meausring the same way I did before, eating the same number of calories I measured before and losing now when I didn't before.
sigh.
Double sigh. I said I changed one thing, and you're saying the reason I wasn't losing is something else. You said I must be eating less because I am more satisfied. I said I ate the same amount of calories (which with whole foods I find I get to eat more food) which makes your response a moot point. If I didn't change how I measured or the amount of calories (meauring the same way), then just measuring is not the issue. Your response does not explain why the change in type of food when I am eating the same amount of calories equaled more weight loss for me.
you changed the type of food you were measuring. if you are measuring dense foods like carbs and dairy products, you are going to be farther off than you will on less dense foods like vegetables and fruits. bread and pasta and oats and potatoes weigh more for their mass than a leaf of lettuce. A cup of lettuce will be closer to the calorie count for weight than a cup of potatoes, for instance, which is why you created more of a calorie deficit when you change those foods and measured them the same way. Does that make sense?
One more example: When I measured 1/2 cup of oatmeal, it was 55 grams (206 calories). 40 grams is 150 calories, according to the package label, but it also says that 1/2 cup is 150 calories. If you assume your 1/2 cup is 150 calories, you are already 56 calories over on your calories estimate for the day. If you measure out a cup of lettuce and it's 10 calories, and then weight the grams of lettuce and it's 15 calories, now you're only 5 calories over. Much easier to keep your calorie deficit that way.0 -
Saying "hey, you're a douche"
"Hey you, *kitten*"
"Mr. Douchetastic, pass me that stapler"
is calling someone a douche.
Implying someone is a douche is no different than blatantly calling someone a douche, just as implying someone is a b!tch is no different than calling someone a b!tch. There are nicer ways to say things.
I didn't imply that. He chose to make the comment about himself. I actually wasn't calling HIM a douche, at all.
you are the one that brought up in response to a comment that I made…if you did not think I was acting in certain way then why did you feel the need to imply it? I could reply in kind, but I will take high road..
If you want to challenge me on what I am saying then point to what you disagree with and call me out on it…no sense in beating around the bushes..
Again, I was NOT actually talking about you! Lol! Yes, you've annoyed me in the past, but I was wrong and admitted as much. You actually haven't been terrible in this thread. Stop making this about you!0 -
**Meanwhile, in my fortress of evil**
I'm glad you've had success but the weight loss isn't purely because you cut those three things. It's because by eliminating those things from your diet, you created a calorie deficit. I wish you the best but have no intention of ever giving up these things. Especially the dairy...ice cream.... Also, 30 lbs in 2 months seems ridiculous and not healthy for most people, so...
The statement of "you created a calorie deficit" is not accurate. It depends on a lot of what the "replacement" foods are that are being ate. I've recently switched up from years of calorie counting - doubled my calories - by adding more high quality fats - and am losing weight and cutting body fat - calories in/calories out - is simply not true.0 -
Nope, but there's a non-douchie way of correcting people, ndj. wink
If you had said "Nope, but there's a non-b**** way of correcting people"... I don't think it would have been jumped on.
Everyone here who the statement applies to is more concerned with being CORRECT than being HELPFUL.0 -
Wow I am quite amazed at all the responses here. I put the details of my story in a blog post.
I had about 40 lbs to lose. I cannot reply to all these posts, but who ever is interested can look at my story here:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Elevensies
I only wanted to share my experience as I had this extra weight for many years and until I gave up these things, I was not having much success. I thought others may benefit from learning of my experience.
I know consume these three evils on occasion and in only small amounts. And by 'sugar' iI mean primarily processed sugar. I do not hide from raw honey or fruits, or even maple syrup. :-) But gluten, I am now avoiding permanently. I do not feel well after consuming it. And dairy only in very small amounts.
Please, please please stop calling them 'evils'. They are foods. There is no inherent malevalence in them. If they don't work for you, that's fine; they do work for many others.0 -
Saying "hey, you're a douche"
"Hey you, *kitten*"
"Mr. Douchetastic, pass me that stapler"
is calling someone a douche.
Implying someone is a douche is no different than blatantly calling someone a douche, just as implying someone is a b!tch is no different than calling someone a b!tch. There are nicer ways to say things.
I didn't imply that. He chose to make the comment about himself. I actually wasn't calling HIM a douche, at all.
you are the one that brought up in response to a comment that I made…if you did not think I was acting in certain way then why did you feel the need to imply it? I could reply in kind, but I will take high road..
If you want to challenge me on what I am saying then point to what you disagree with and call me out on it…no sense in beating around the bushes..
Again, I was NOT actually talking about you! Lol! Yes, you've annoyed me in the past, but I was wrong and admitted as much. You actually haven't been terrible in this thread. Stop making this about you!
you specifically referenced my screename "Nope, but there's a non-douchie way of correcting people, ndj" so yes, you were referring/talking about me. Again, if you have a problem with what I said, or how I called someone out then quote it and say what you disagree with. You do not need to take a round about route to call me out …or just call me out and I will reply in kid. But don't try to be all sly about it and then when you get called out, put your tail between your legs and totally back off the statement like you said nothing…
Hell, you can call me whatever you want…just tell me what you disagree with and we can hash it out...0 -
I understand the weight part, but if I am measuring the same way I did before, then what explains the weight loss with the whole foods if I am measuring out the same number of calories I ate before. I am using the same measuring method, so the type of food has nothing to do with it.
You asked for an explanation. I gave you one a few posts back. Did you even read it?
Yes I read it, you said if I weighed I would be eating less food. My point is I didn't change how I measure, just the type of food, I am still eating the same amount of calories from my measurements. If all I did was change the type of food, then the measuring is not the whole equation for me. The type of food works for me. I will definitely look into a scale, but I am meausring the same way I did before, eating the same number of calories I measured before and losing now when I didn't before.
sigh.
Double sigh. I said I changed one thing, and you're saying the reason I wasn't losing is something else. You said I must be eating less because I am more satisfied. I said I ate the same amount of calories (which with whole foods I find I get to eat more food) which makes your response a moot point. If I didn't change how I measured or the amount of calories (meauring the same way), then just measuring is not the issue. Your response does not explain why the change in type of food when I am eating the same amount of calories equaled more weight loss for me.
you changed the type of food you were measuring. if you are measuring dense foods like carbs and dairy products, you are going to be farther off than you will on less dense foods like vegetables and fruits. bread and pasta and oats and potatoes weigh more for their mass than a leaf of lettuce. A cup of lettuce will be closer to the calorie count for weight than a cup of potatoes, for instance, which is why you created more of a calorie deficit when you change those foods and measured them the same way. Does that make sense?
One more example: When I measured 1/2 cup of oatmeal, it was 55 grams (206 calories). 40 grams is 150 calories, according to the package label, but it also says that 1/2 cup is 150 calories. If you assume your 1/2 cup is 150 calories, you are already 56 calories over on your calories estimate for the day. If you measure out a cup of lettuce and it's 10 calories, and then weight the grams of lettuce and it's 15 calories, now you're only 5 calories over. Much easier to keep your calorie deficit that way.
ding, ding, ding..sounds like we solved the problem….0 -
**Meanwhile, in my fortress of evil**
I'm glad you've had success but the weight loss isn't purely because you cut those three things. It's because by eliminating those things from your diet, you created a calorie deficit. I wish you the best but have no intention of ever giving up these things. Especially the dairy...ice cream.... Also, 30 lbs in 2 months seems ridiculous and not healthy for most people, so...
The statement of "you created a calorie deficit" is not accurate. It depends on a lot of what the "replacement" foods are that are being ate. I've recently switched up from years of calorie counting - doubled my calories - by adding more high quality fats - and am losing weight and cutting body fat - calories in/calories out - is simply not true.
If you are not counting calories, then how do you know if you are eating at a deficit or not? You could be, in which case, it is working,0 -
OP, do what works best for you. I had a problem losing weight too until I found that gluten is a problem for me. Since I cut gluten containing food from my diet, I have lost weight steadily. I have read a lot of posts about calorie deficits and I understand that is how you lose weight. But when I was eating at a deficit, and I still wasn't losing weight, I knew that something wasn't right. So I cut out gluten. I still eat sugar and potatoes and I log them along with the rest of the foods I eat. Since eating gluten free, the "eat at a deficit" is working for me. Best wishes to you!!0
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**Meanwhile, in my fortress of evil**
I'm glad you've had success but the weight loss isn't purely because you cut those three things. It's because by eliminating those things from your diet, you created a calorie deficit. I wish you the best but have no intention of ever giving up these things. Especially the dairy...ice cream.... Also, 30 lbs in 2 months seems ridiculous and not healthy for most people, so...
The statement of "you created a calorie deficit" is not accurate. It depends on a lot of what the "replacement" foods are that are being ate. I've recently switched up from years of calorie counting - doubled my calories - by adding more high quality fats - and am losing weight and cutting body fat - calories in/calories out - is simply not true.
So...You're weighing and measuring everything you eat and the way you eat now is the same exact calorie amount you were eating of other foods that had you at a surplus? I'm going to say no. Thermodynamics. Yadda yadda. You can sit here and argue with me about it but the simple fact is in some way, You are creating a deficit. It's easier to create a deficit without trying with foods that are lower in calorie. Simple. So, cutting out high calorie foods can give people more of an opportunity for error and result in loss.0 -
so whenver someone posts something that is not accurate we are all just supposed to jump on the bandwagon and say "hooray, great job OP!" even if we know the reasoning/logic behind said post is wrong?
Look people are going to come in here and think that this is a plan for long term success which it is not …so if we are not being "supportive' for blindly supporting every "sugar is the devil" post, then sure, whatever...
Nope, but there's a non-douchie way of correcting people, ndj.
She was obviously replying to your statement, not specifically saying you were the douchie one. She was responding TO you, but not ABOUT you.
The reality is, there are ways to be correct AND helpful. Most people were more focused on being correct, which came across as condescending and aggressive: ie: douchie0 -
Wow! I came here for a little encouragement in my journey. The first thread I look at is in the 'Success Stories' forum and what do I see? Well, if I say 'vicious attacks', many will get defensive and direct those comments toward me, whether I was referring to them or not. Anyway. I see this thread as rather sad.
To the original poster, you know your body. If those foods were hurting you, and obviously they were, you made a good choice. I, too, have eliminated gluten, dairy (mostly), and process/refined sugar/honey/etc. from my diet. I am gluten and lactose intolerant and diabetic. I haven't lost weight but am holding steady and feel better than I have in years. It's just a matter of time till I'm able to exercise more and the pounds will start dropping. Thank you to the original poster for the reminder that weight loss is possible I was beginning to doubt.
Yeah, that's MFP, in a nutshell. This is a hot button topic for MFP'ers. There are others, as well (eating below 1200 calories/day comes to mind).
Stick around, you CAN find supportive people here, too.
so whenver someone posts something that is not accurate we are all just supposed to jump on the bandwagon and say "hooray, great job OP!" even if we know the reasoning/logic behind said post is wrong?
Look people are going to come in here and think that this is a plan for long term success which it is not …so if we are not being "supportive' for blindly supporting every "sugar is the devil" post, then sure, whatever...
Nope, but there's a non-douchie way of correcting people, ndj.
so when your premise falls apart you resort to name calling…legit...
Sensitive much? No one called you any names.
calling someone a douche is not name calling? What, pray tell, is it?
there are some things I could say about the person that said that, but I will take the high road….
She didn't call anyone a douche, she said they responded in a douchie manner. Just like we all have moments where we could have been nicer, but doesn't mean we are a jerk overall.
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Wow! I came here for a little encouragement in my journey. The first thread I look at is in the 'Success Stories' forum and what do I see? Well, if I say 'vicious attacks', many will get defensive and direct those comments toward me, whether I was referring to them or not. Anyway. I see this thread as rather sad.
To the original poster, you know your body. If those foods were hurting you, and obviously they were, you made a good choice. I, too, have eliminated gluten, dairy (mostly), and process/refined sugar/honey/etc. from my diet. I am gluten and lactose intolerant and diabetic. I haven't lost weight but am holding steady and feel better than I have in years. It's just a matter of time till I'm able to exercise more and the pounds will start dropping. Thank you to the original poster for the reminder that weight loss is possible I was beginning to doubt.
Yeah, that's MFP, in a nutshell. This is a hot button topic for MFP'ers. There are others, as well (eating below 1200 calories/day comes to mind).
Stick around, you CAN find supportive people here, too.
so whenver someone posts something that is not accurate we are all just supposed to jump on the bandwagon and say "hooray, great job OP!" even if we know the reasoning/logic behind said post is wrong?
Look people are going to come in here and think that this is a plan for long term success which it is not …so if we are not being "supportive' for blindly supporting every "sugar is the devil" post, then sure, whatever...
Nope, but there's a non-douchie way of correcting people, ndj.
so when your premise falls apart you resort to name calling…legit...
Sensitive much? No one called you any names.
calling someone a douche is not name calling? What, pray tell, is it?
there are some things I could say about the person that said that, but I will take the high road….
Saying "hey, you're a douche"
"Hey you, *kitten*"
"Mr. Douchetastic, pass me that stapler"
is calling someone a douche.
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so whenver someone posts something that is not accurate we are all just supposed to jump on the bandwagon and say "hooray, great job OP!" even if we know the reasoning/logic behind said post is wrong?
Look people are going to come in here and think that this is a plan for long term success which it is not …so if we are not being "supportive' for blindly supporting every "sugar is the devil" post, then sure, whatever...
Nope, but there's a non-douchie way of correcting people, ndj.
She was obviously replying to your statement, not specifically saying you were the douchie one. She was responding TO you, but not ABOUT you.
The reality is, there are ways to be correct AND helpful. Most people were more focused on being correct, which came across as condescending and aggressive: ie: douchie
fine then challenge me for what I said, and don't do it some snarky, round about, sly manner, and get all defensive when you get called on it...0 -
Saying "hey, you're a douche"
"Hey you, *kitten*"
"Mr. Douchetastic, pass me that stapler"
is calling someone a douche.
Implying someone is a douche is no different than blatantly calling someone a douche, just as implying someone is a b!tch is no different than calling someone a b!tch. There are nicer ways to say things.
I didn't imply that. He chose to make the comment about himself. I actually wasn't calling HIM a douche, at all.
you are the one that brought up in response to a comment that I made…if you did not think I was acting in certain way then why did you feel the need to imply it? I could reply in kind, but I will take high road..
If you want to challenge me on what I am saying then point to what you disagree with and call me out on it…no sense in beating around the bushes..
Again, I was NOT actually talking about you! Lol! Yes, you've annoyed me in the past, but I was wrong and admitted as much. You actually haven't been terrible in this thread. Stop making this about you!
you specifically referenced my screename "Nope, but there's a non-douchie way of correcting people, ndj" so yes, you were referring/talking about me. Again, if you have a problem with what I said, or how I called someone out then quote it and say what you disagree with. You do not need to take a round about route to call me out …or just call me out and I will reply in kid. But don't try to be all sly about it and then when you get called out, put your tail between your legs and totally back off the statement like you said nothing…
Hell, you can call me whatever you want…just tell me what you disagree with and we can hash it out...
Oh, christ. Seriously? I currently have NO PROBLEM with you. I was replying to your comment about correcting ppl. My response would have been THE SAME to anyone who said it. I was just discussing the topic. No need to get butthurt over some perceived slight.0 -
This is how the conversation went, in a nutshell:
Person 1: Rawr rawr rawr, you're WRONG and I'm RIGHT
Person 2: Hey man, if what they're doing helps them, and others are struggling with the same inflammation/overeating/water retention issues, let's just make sure they know it's more about the deficit.
Person 1: WRONGITY WRONG WRONG WRONG.
Person 3: Person 2, are we supposed to applaud people who are making incorrect statements when generally applied?
Person 2: Person 3, I just think there are better ways to get the message across without being overly aggressive about it.
Person 3: OMG, Why would you call me overly aggressive?!0 -
To the original poster:
Congratulations!
I cut gluten and my life improved dramatically. Having a hard time cutting casein but props to you! Its unfortunate you were attacked but I thank you for sharing this information 0 -
I am reading these posts and it is making me sad. When I first joined MFP it was almost all positive comments. For some reason, everyone is an expert now and those who tell their own stories are being, in my opinion, made fun of. Who cares what works for someone, congratulate them on having made a change in their life, and keep your expertise to yourself. GEEZ. Everyone is different. I read these threads for positive comments. Not to hear how smart losing a few pounds has made everyone.0
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so whenver someone posts something that is not accurate we are all just supposed to jump on the bandwagon and say "hooray, great job OP!" even if we know the reasoning/logic behind said post is wrong?
Look people are going to come in here and think that this is a plan for long term success which it is not …so if we are not being "supportive' for blindly supporting every "sugar is the devil" post, then sure, whatever...
Nope, but there's a non-douchie way of correcting people, ndj.
She was obviously replying to your statement, not specifically saying you were the douchie one. She was responding TO you, but not ABOUT you.
The reality is, there are ways to be correct AND helpful. Most people were more focused on being correct, which came across as condescending and aggressive: ie: douchie
fine then challenge me for what I said, and don't do it some snarky, round about, sly manner, and get all defensive when you get called on it...
Lol! You think I'm the defensive one. To clarify: yes, this time I AM implying that YOU are being defensive. If I can openly admit to you that I was wrong, why in the world would you think I would rely on sly, snarky measures to criticize you now?
I'm human. I'm Ok with that. You're human, too. I'm Ok with that also.0 -
Saying "hey, you're a douche"
"Hey you, *kitten*"
"Mr. Douchetastic, pass me that stapler"
is calling someone a douche.
Implying someone is a douche is no different than blatantly calling someone a douche, just as implying someone is a b!tch is no different than calling someone a b!tch. There are nicer ways to say things.
I didn't imply that. He chose to make the comment about himself. I actually wasn't calling HIM a douche, at all.
you are the one that brought up in response to a comment that I made…if you did not think I was acting in certain way then why did you feel the need to imply it? I could reply in kind, but I will take high road..
If you want to challenge me on what I am saying then point to what you disagree with and call me out on it…no sense in beating around the bushes..
Again, I was NOT actually talking about you! Lol! Yes, you've annoyed me in the past, but I was wrong and admitted as much. You actually haven't been terrible in this thread. Stop making this about you!
you specifically referenced my screename "Nope, but there's a non-douchie way of correcting people, ndj" so yes, you were referring/talking about me. Again, if you have a problem with what I said, or how I called someone out then quote it and say what you disagree with. You do not need to take a round about route to call me out …or just call me out and I will reply in kid. But don't try to be all sly about it and then when you get called out, put your tail between your legs and totally back off the statement like you said nothing…
Hell, you can call me whatever you want…just tell me what you disagree with and we can hash it out...
Oh, christ. Seriously? I currently have NO PROBLEM with you. I was replying to your comment about correcting ppl. My response would have been THE SAME to anyone who said it. I was just discussing the topic. No need to get butthurt over some perceived slight.
How is it "but hurt" to challenge you on what you are saying to me? I am simply saying if you have a problem go ahead and confront me about it and don't try to be all sly about it and then say that, that is not what you were doing…its not that hard..its called courage, use it sometimes...0 -
This is how the conversation went, in a nutshell:
Person 1: Rawr rawr rawr, you're WRONG and I'm RIGHT
Person 2: Hey man, if what they're doing helps them, and others are struggling with the same inflammation/overeating/water retention issues, let's just make sure they know it's more about the deficit.
Person 1: WRONGITY WRONG WRONG WRONG.
Person 3: Person 2, are we supposed to applaud people who are making incorrect statements when generally applied?
Person 2: Person 3, I just think there are better ways to get the message across without being overly aggressive about it.
Person 3: OMG, Why would you call me overly aggressive?!
Lol!0 -
All the information I mentioned was from doing research on my own from valid resources and was to explain why I made the choices I did. I didn't save them all because I don't save a million articles on my computer, but they can be found if people took the time to look. If my statements are wrong, no one on here seems to be posting any medical journal articles to prove otherwise. it goes both ways. If everyone is right and I'm wrong, then give me proof from respected medical journals (I'm an RN and belong to many journals online so I can do this valid reasearch). If I read you articles and they make sense to me then I will admit that you were correct. Until then, I can only go based off the research I have done and will call you out if and when you have nothing to back your statements up either.
Actually this isn't true. "Folks," as in non-medical folks, or marketing people with alphabet letters after their name, introduce the newest "fad" diet with claims of wonderful results. It hits the news, via some celebrity who pushes it, then people jump on the fad & swear by it seeking some miracle weight loss (i.e. something that doesn't require work.) By the time it is truly researched with valid medical/statistical method & technique, the diet has fallen from favor for the "new better than best miracle" diet. When the article proving the previous fad was bogus is finally published, no one is paying attention any more, because they've already moved onto the new fad. By the way, I read medical articles too--I'm an M.D.
For those of you complimenting the OP, her weight loss was waaaaay to rapid, unless she was morbidly obese & under the care of a weight loss/bariatric physician. NO ONE should strive for that extreme of weight loss! It is usually done with a very low calorie intake. Don't be fooled into believing all that weight loss was fat. The initial loss included water shifts from glycogen breakdown & an excessive amount of lean body mass (i.e. muscle) loss. That muscle loss has now dropped her calorie burn, making it even harder to lose weight on a similar calorie deficit. To continue to lose weight, she will now have to drop her calories even lower!!!
Appropriate weight loss should involve a REASONABLE calorie deficit, adequate intake of proteins (1 grams/pound LBM) and fats (0.4 grams/pound LBM). Finally, sugar is sugar. The only folks benefiting from the crazy notions about sugar are the industries pushing those ideas! If you want to delete certain food groups from your diet, more power to you! Just understand that it is not sustainable over the long haul, which is what eventually leads to diet failures & regaining of weight + a few extra pounds. Those of us recommending a calorie deficit through moderation are trying to get folks to switch to a life-long dietary change. You need to be able to eat what you enjoy within moderation. Denying yourself something that you love will only lead to frustration & failure. If you doubt that reality, all you have to do is look back through all the threads of people looking for new friends as they start their diet over for the 3th-4th-15th time. I dare you to look back though all the thread started since January 1st of this year.
One last thing, for those claiming they have to eat differently because they are over 30-40-50 years of age. Yes, you need fewer calories as you age, but mostly that is due to loss of muscle mass and decreasing activity. Studies have shown you lose 1 pound of muscle mass/year as you age, unless you make a concerted effort to prevent it--that is responsible for your drop in metabolism. Eating enough protein, utilizing resistance training & staying active can prevent much of that decrease! Starting now with a healthy, sustainable lifestyle is the lesson you should learn from this new/rededicated diet, not a bunch of crazy, unsustainable rubbish.
I am 54 years old, have lost >60 pounds (only 2-3 of which have been muscle loss) in the last year, and I eat 1800-1900 calories/day and enjoy all of my favorite things in moderation!!! My father, at the age of 76 years of age, lost 65 pounds last year doing the same thing. So did my sister, age 52 years! It works!!!!!!!!0 -
Saying "hey, you're a douche"
"Hey you, *kitten*"
"Mr. Douchetastic, pass me that stapler"
is calling someone a douche.
Implying someone is a douche is no different than blatantly calling someone a douche, just as implying someone is a b!tch is no different than calling someone a b!tch. There are nicer ways to say things.
I didn't imply that. He chose to make the comment about himself. I actually wasn't calling HIM a douche, at all.
you are the one that brought up in response to a comment that I made…if you did not think I was acting in certain way then why did you feel the need to imply it? I could reply in kind, but I will take high road..
If you want to challenge me on what I am saying then point to what you disagree with and call me out on it…no sense in beating around the bushes..
Again, I was NOT actually talking about you! Lol! Yes, you've annoyed me in the past, but I was wrong and admitted as much. You actually haven't been terrible in this thread. Stop making this about you!
you specifically referenced my screename "Nope, but there's a non-douchie way of correcting people, ndj" so yes, you were referring/talking about me. Again, if you have a problem with what I said, or how I called someone out then quote it and say what you disagree with. You do not need to take a round about route to call me out …or just call me out and I will reply in kid. But don't try to be all sly about it and then when you get called out, put your tail between your legs and totally back off the statement like you said nothing…
Hell, you can call me whatever you want…just tell me what you disagree with and we can hash it out...
Oh, christ. Seriously? I currently have NO PROBLEM with you. I was replying to your comment about correcting ppl. My response would have been THE SAME to anyone who said it. I was just discussing the topic. No need to get butthurt over some perceived slight.
How is it "but hurt" to challenge you on what you are saying to me? I am simply saying if you have a problem go ahead and confront me about it and don't try to be all sly about it and then say that, that is not what you were doing…its not that hard..its called courage, use it sometimes...
Gah... you really are a lost cause, aren't you? Lol!0 -
This is how the conversation went, in a nutshell:
Person 1: Rawr rawr rawr, you're WRONG and I'm RIGHT
Person 2: Hey man, if what they're doing helps them, and others are struggling with the same inflammation/overeating/water retention issues, let's just make sure they know it's more about the deficit.
Person 1: WRONGITY WRONG WRONG WRONG.
Person 3: Person 2, are we supposed to applaud people who are making incorrect statements when generally applied?
Person 2: Person 3, I just think there are better ways to get the message across without being overly aggressive about it.
Person 3: OMG, Why would you call me overly aggressive?!
yea, except that is now what person three said..but its all good ...0 -
Saying "hey, you're a douche"
"Hey you, *kitten*"
"Mr. Douchetastic, pass me that stapler"
is calling someone a douche.
Implying someone is a douche is no different than blatantly calling someone a douche, just as implying someone is a b!tch is no different than calling someone a b!tch. There are nicer ways to say things.
I didn't imply that. He chose to make the comment about himself. I actually wasn't calling HIM a douche, at all.
you are the one that brought up in response to a comment that I made…if you did not think I was acting in certain way then why did you feel the need to imply it? I could reply in kind, but I will take high road..
If you want to challenge me on what I am saying then point to what you disagree with and call me out on it…no sense in beating around the bushes..
Again, I was NOT actually talking about you! Lol! Yes, you've annoyed me in the past, but I was wrong and admitted as much. You actually haven't been terrible in this thread. Stop making this about you!
you specifically referenced my screename "Nope, but there's a non-douchie way of correcting people, ndj" so yes, you were referring/talking about me. Again, if you have a problem with what I said, or how I called someone out then quote it and say what you disagree with. You do not need to take a round about route to call me out …or just call me out and I will reply in kid. But don't try to be all sly about it and then when you get called out, put your tail between your legs and totally back off the statement like you said nothing…
Hell, you can call me whatever you want…just tell me what you disagree with and we can hash it out...
Oh, christ. Seriously? I currently have NO PROBLEM with you. I was replying to your comment about correcting ppl. My response would have been THE SAME to anyone who said it. I was just discussing the topic. No need to get butthurt over some perceived slight.
How is it "but hurt" to challenge you on what you are saying to me? I am simply saying if you have a problem go ahead and confront me about it and don't try to be all sly about it and then say that, that is not what you were doing…its not that hard..its called courage, use it sometimes...
Gah... you really are a lost cause, aren't you? Lol!
Hmmm me thinks, that you are the lost cause here not me…I mean if you can't even recognize what you are doing, then I guess there is no reason in me calling you out for it …0 -
I am on a detox right now which eliminates gluten (I was already not eating gluten), sugar, dairy, alcohol, caffeine, soy. All of these foods cause inflammation and don't allow the body to heal from the inside. I have lost 8 lbs already. They say it helps prevent the accumulation of cholesterol in arteries as well. I am vegetarian (mostly vegan, still eat cage free, organic eggs from a local farm in my state) and honestly believe that a plant based diet is the healthiest and most humane way to live.
People take information to the extreme. NONE of this is true if you eat at a moderate deficit and hit your macro and micro nutrients. All the issues with all the above is the abuse of it, not the moderation of it. I wish people would stop being so dramatic. It's a bit insane. It's like there's this whole outside evil world trying to kill you. Lol.
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