Biggest Loser Finale...what is going on??

Agree! An adult woman should not weigh 105 lbs! They need to have a rule that you can't win if you are under the recommended BMI for your height... if they need to change the rules elsewhere to make it more fair, since some people have an advantage because they have more to lose, then so be it, but that was not cool. They should not encourage people to win by being anorexic because they have to achieve a certain percentage of weight loss that is ridiculous and unhealthy for them. Anorexia is NOT cool! I usually like TBL, but that was not good at all. She was appallingly skinny and needs to gain 20 lbs stat! Hopefully she does so now that she won! Jillian's Oh my God, Oh my God, did not seem like a good kind of shock.

While she does not have the body type that I want, I think we should be careful in what we say. I am under my recommended BMI and on the border of healthy and underweight, according to the charts, and you certainly can't say that I am "all skin and bones". "Appallingly" skinny to you, is what some people are naturally. They eat just as much as I do, exercise less, and are completely healthy. I'm sure I would get bashed if I called somebody appallingly fat. Lets be careful with what we say, since I am positive there are healthy, active, well fed women on here that have her exact body type.

Yeah, on the one hand, this show has always been unhealthy and had unhealthy consequences for the contestants. We've all known that for a long time (or at least had the ability to look into it).

And I agree that this woman does look like she could potentially be too thin for her frame (and with rapid weight loss). And it's not what I would choose for myself.

But, it's incorrect to say that no woman should ever weigh 105. I am also very small framed. Very healthy. I eat in the range of 2000 to 2300 calories (I'm only 5'2"). I've always been a small person. My weight has always been between 98 and 103 in my adulthood. I lift weights, I'm a dancer, I eat a lot, I've had two healthy babies. Even after giving birth I weighed 115, and that was eating 3000 calories a day while pregnant. I continued eating at that rate and lost the weight while breastfeeding and leading my usual active and energetic lifestyle.

I believe you are thinking of Helen who looked way too thin when she beat Tara. I believe they had said Jillian tried to counsel her about getting to healthy weight, but that she had ignored that advice because she wanted to win.

I agree.. the final day at the Ranch Rachel looked Good... Fit and healthy...... and i expected she would be thinnER by the Finale but not this much... When Alli won her season, and also Tara at her finale? those two women looked Wonderful.. Fit , slim and healthy with some good muscle tone.
The only other who seemed too thin was the season when a blonde older woman won? sorry her name escapes me? Sheila maybe? anyway, she looked gaunt as well but Rachel last nite........
I was shocked and it seemed many others there were as well...
I was happy for Tumi... and yes now SHE looked wonderful.... Congrats to her for all the hard work.
as for the length of time from when they leave the ranch until the finale? I had thought it was longer than 30 days? The one fellow with the new baby said his baby son is now 7 months old. His Wife gave birth shortly after the show began airing........ so if you consider they are on the Ranch for 12 weeks? ( approx 3 months ) and then bring that up until now? that's 4 months at home? but perhaps they were on the Ranch longer than 12 weeks this time? I'm not sure.

And sorry, but typing "end of story" doesn't stop the conversation. Two year olds try similar tactics and they don't get away with it either.

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She's too thin. Part of the issue isn't just the stats. It's the rate at which she lost, which was so rapid that it didn't allow her skin to kind of fill in. So she looks very hollow, older, sunken in. 105 lbs is probably too low for her. But the quickness with which she dropped weight is what is making her look so sickly. Her body will naturally put on some weight, guaranteed. There is no way she can maintain this without starving herself.

Side note: I went from 350 lbs to 140 lbs (I am 5'8), and at 140, statistically speaking, I was right in the middle of the healthy weight range. Yet I practically had an intervention from friends/family b/c they all thought I looked sickly thin. I didn't see it. I maintained for quite a few years by only eating 1000-1200 cals a day and working out for two hours a day. Then I got injured. Then I gained weight. And here I am. When I was 155, everyone thought I looked much healthier. When I look back on photos of me at 140, I finally see what they were saying. You could count the bones in my sternum. So, I think it depends on how quickly the weight is lost, body type, etc. Having said that, she still looks awfully thin. Painfully so.

I've heard she is anywhere from 5'3" to 5'9". The NBC website doesn't say or I can't find it.

How judgmental of all of you.

I would just like to say, as a very petite person myself, that I don't believe in relying on BMI (which is a little outdated and not a one size fits all program anyway - neither actually is actual weight or body fat % as we know - people can look drastically different at the same % - it should be about several end measurements including fat to muscle ratios, inches lost, strength and endurance gained, etc).

That being said, as someone similar in height to Rachael - I'm 5 ft 3.5 and approx 117 lbs. I am not as toned as I would like to be, however I dropped down to 106 lbs a few years back due to an illness and it was really uncomfortable. You can tell everything by her arms and face. Her legs look OK. The issue with Rachel's end weight isn't whether or not she followed the rules or will gain it back in a few weeks (which I also hope for her), the issue is that this show is about inspiration and achievement. She will be looked at as a role model. In the end, that is not the image of the role model she could have been.

I don't believe that Rachael is anorexic and I don't think we should make dangerous assumptions, nor belittle such a terrible illness by throwing loose assumptions out there, but being that she has likely inspired so many people in he public (especially younger, more impressionable girls), as a role model, the end goal cannot just be about the money. IMO the trainers should be able to check in on the contestants in the final 2 -3 weeks at home before the finale. If they are taking extreme measures to "win" at any cost, the bigger focus needs to be on the image that the winner will convey to the public - who look to them as inspiration. This way any modifications/counselling can take place to ensure everyone is in fact at their best for the finale.

While I applaud her efforts overall on the season, I believe her competitive nature lead her on to forget about the balance and health aspect/image just to win a prize - IMO this is not something that should be celebrated.

I would just like to point out this quote I pulled from a website: "I started as a [size] 20 and now I’m a 0/2. I was a 6 during makeover week. It's all about maintaining now!" she told Us.

I apologize if my statement was offensive. I am sure there are people with her body type (and perhaps less muscle) that are naturally thin and look just fine, but in my opinion, she, in particular, looked sick and shockingly skinny. Seems many people agree -it's all over the internet - including Bob and Jillian, by the looks on their faces. I don't mean to imply that everyone at this weight looks terrible, but in my opinion she does. I don't really know anyone else with those stats, so I can't say if someone else may appear healthy at that weight. It is possible. My guess though is that these stats are unhealthy and if someone is under a normal BMI, as an adult, in order to be healthy, they should consider trying to gain a few pounds too. I have always been naturally thin (before the last few years) and am far from a "skinny shamer," but I am just concerned for this girl, and the message that this is sending to society, if we are epitomizing someone who looks like she has starved herself.

I'm an adult, and under my recommended BMI. So I should put on a few pounds? Lmao. I'm currently on a cut cycle.

Just curious, how tall are you, and what is your weight/BF% in your profile pictures?

Sorry if you have given this info before, I didn't read all the posts.

The fact that NO ONE has made a statement about this is very telling to me. Nothing has been posted on Bob Harper, Jillian Michaels, Dolvett Quince or The Biggest Loser Facebook pages. NBC has failed to comment, so what is really going on here???

... I also don't see the difference between saying, "OMG, she looks so gross. I don't even want to look at her. She's unhealthy. I'm saying she's disgusting and gross for her health." Whether the person is 3 pounds below the low BMI or 3 pounds above the high BMI.

There are ways of talking that don't involve calling people gross and disgusting.

exactly.

QFMFT

Agree! An adult woman should not weigh 105 lbs!

sorry? i am an adult woman and am very comfortable at 105 lbs. this **** is ridiculous. if this were reversed, can you imagine the uproar over someone crowing about how "an adult woman should not weight 275 lbs" or some such bull**** like that.

i don't watch this show, but i think for her height (5'4" apparently) 105 lbs is not abhorrent! i agree that it sounds like it happened quite drastically and very fast - but those stats are not "sickly" and "anorexic". jesus.

*****es be jealous

Not everyone is pro-ana.

Adult women come in all shapes and sizes.

I hover around 105 and am 5'2" and am perfectly healthy. 19% body fat and ranked in the superior fitness range for my age by an extensive fitness study that I participated in at the local university.

Anorexia is a mental disorder people not a Number on a scale or your opinion of someone else body image. Unless you are licensed psychologist who has spoken to her in the past 48 hours Id say you can shove your anorexic diagnosis straight up your Ferflueghenhaegen

While I agree I think she went too far, 5' 4" 105 is only 4 pounds below where she should be to be considered "healthy." That being said, she did not look healthy at all. You would expect to see at last some muscle. All I saw was skin and bones.

Anorexia is a mental disorder people not a Number on a scale or your opinion of someone else body image. Unless you are licensed psychologist who has spoken to her in the past 48 hours Id say you can shove your anorexic diagnosis straight up your Ferflueghenhaegen

Anorexia isa mental disorder.... but it is ALSO a physical state, being underweight and malnourished is also called anorexia... For exemple dengue disease could make you anorexic (even though you do not have an eating disorder).... Just an FYI

The fact that NO ONE has made a statement about this is very telling to me. Nothing has been posted on Bob Harper, Jillian Michaels, Dolvett Quince or The Biggest Loser Facebook pages. NBC has failed to comment, so what is really going on here???

If they were happy with her winning, it would have been on their (Jillian's, Bob's and Dolvett's) Facebook pages. They are probably not allowed to talk about it and since they are unhappy, they won't mention it.... Unless NBC is coming out with a statement later on....