Biggest Loser Finale...what is going on??

I have 3 episodes to catch up online.. it sure sounds like everyone is talking about this.. must be bad..

So the biggest loser finale crowned Rachel the winner, she looked pretty darn thin to me but her BMI is 18, to drop over 60% of your body weight is incredible! To be ridiculed and made out to be anorexic afterwards has got to SUCK. She looks skinny to me not fit but some people do just want to be skinny I wouldn't call her anorexic just model thin.

Agree! An adult woman should not weigh 105 lbs!

sorry? i am an adult woman and am very comfortable at 105 lbs. this **** is ridiculous. if this were reversed, can you imagine the uproar over someone crowing about how "an adult woman should not weight 275 lbs" or some such bull**** like that.

i don't watch this show, but i think for her height (5'4" apparently) 105 lbs is not abhorrent! i agree that it sounds like it happened quite drastically and very fast - but those stats are not "sickly" and "anorexic". jesus.

*****es be jealous

Not everyone is pro-ana.

Adult women come in all shapes and sizes.

I hover around 105 and am 5'2" and am perfectly healthy. 19% body fat and ranked in the superior fitness range for my age by an extensive fitness study that I participated in at the local university.

Your taller then me and you want to get down to 100 pounds? That brings your BMI to 18.3 which is below "normal". Which means you might get a lot of comments about how you look too thin just like Rachel has been getting I think it's just shocking to see thin people outside of a catwalk lol so most people are like "whoa whoa..." Where as it's just thin vs fit in my opinion.

I'm 5'2" and I weigh 100 to 103 pounds. I have a small frame. I've always been this weight and I eat a lot 2000 to 2300 or so. No one ever says I look too thin or gross. I get lots of compliments and people say I have nice curves. My doctor says I'm not underweight and that I'm very healthy. She says I have a small frame and points out that it's genetic (my family members being small also). I also lift weights A person can be small and fit as well. I don't think it would look good as everyone's goal weight.

I haven't seen it.. Maybe I should catch up? What season is this on, anyway??

https://www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=PLn1VVPKBwCfl91wk8Ka7gKjR5qL2ebr9J

Did you guys see the look on Jillians face when she came out? Its was a OMG look like not the good OMG....

Agree! An adult woman should not weigh 105 lbs!

sorry? i am an adult woman and am very comfortable at 105 lbs. this **** is ridiculous. if this were reversed, can you imagine the uproar over someone crowing about how "an adult woman should not weight 275 lbs" or some such bull**** like that.

i don't watch this show, but i think for her height (5'4" apparently) 105 lbs is not abhorrent! i agree that it sounds like it happened quite drastically and very fast - but those stats are not "sickly" and "anorexic". jesus.

*****es be jealous

Not everyone is pro-ana.

Adult women come in all shapes and sizes.

I hover around 105 and am 5'2" and am perfectly healthy. 19% body fat and ranked in the superior fitness range for my age by an extensive fitness study that I participated in at the local university.

Your taller then me and you want to get down to 100 pounds? That brings your BMI to 18.3 which is below "normal". Which means you might get a lot of comments about how you look too thin just like Rachel has been getting I think it's just shocking to see thin people outside of a catwalk lol so most people are like "whoa whoa..." Where as it's just thin vs fit in my opinion.

I'm 5'2" and I weigh 100 to 103 pounds. I have a small frame. I've always been this weight and I eat a lot 2000 to 2300 or so. No one ever says I look too thin or gross. I get lots of compliments and people say I have nice curves. My doctor says I'm not underweight and that I'm very healthy. She says I have a small frame and points out that it's genetic (my family members being small also). I also lift weights A person can be small and fit as well. I don't think it would look good as everyone's goal weight.

I wasn't saying you can't be small and fit as well, I was saying there is a difference in being thin and fit, if she had more visible muscle and still weighed 105 the backlash wouldn't be nearly as bad as it is. She lost muscle so people naturally think she is starving when in actuality she might have just stopped strength training.

The competition is to lose the most weight. Not lose the most weight and preserve muscle.

From Jillian's facebook page:

So here it is.

Bob and I want to take a moment to congratulate all of the BL contestants on their hard work. We're not comfortable commenting on Rachel’s journey because weren't her trainers and weren't given an opportunity to work with her at any point. Any questions about the contestants on the Biggest Loser should be directed to the show’s producers.

Bob had the same thing on his. Word for word. Well, except his said Jillian and I... obviously.

I'm guessing that none of them ate or drank anything that day. Not healthy but not surprising given what is at stake. I would bet that after eating and drinking today, her weight has crept back into the healthy weight range.

Just read an update online because I was still thinking about this at dinner.

http://www.today.com/entertainment/biggest-loser-fans-worry-about-winners-health-after-massive-weight-2D12060323

Looks like she was home for 3 1/2 months (not the one month that some had thought). 45 pounds in 3 1/2 months isn't quite so shocking. It's still an awful lot, considering she was working her way down in a healthy weight range.

It also said she is now at 1600 calories for maintenance mode. I guess that seems about right? My TDEE at my 122 lb. goal (I'm eight pounds away) works out to 1708 (that's with a 30 min. workout every day). Only she knows what she ate during those three months, but maybe she did just keep up the extreme workouts and still ate somewhat reasonably?

It's still disturbing, though. If it was her own personal journey I wouldn't be so bothered by it, but she went on national tv and became the winner (thus representative) of a show that is all about weight loss. Supposedly healthy weight loss that is done through hard work, determination, and healthy eating. Interestingly, I went to the Biggest Loser site and clicked on "fitness." This is what I got:

http://www.biggestloser.com/fitness/our-philosophy

"Page not found." Their fitness philosophy can't be found. Maybe they are re-thinking things in light of all the backlash over how Rachel looks. I hope so. Starving yourself and/or working out so hard you vomit (shown MANY times on BL) just isn't a healthy message to be sending. And last season they included KIDS. Picture Rachel at the finale and then imagine targeting kids with her gaunt image and the message that extreme weight loss should be celebrated - that's why I'm disturbed by all this.

I really hope she just did it for the money and that her life will rebound a little into the healthier range. I didn't sound like it from her comments, but I can still hope...

Once again, this forum revels in skinny shaming. Then, I wouldn't expect anything less from these forums.

Honestly, it's nice change of pace to see somebody actually finish their weight loss journey.

And for the record, 105 at 5'4" is within a healthy BMI.

This nation is just accustomed to seeing its own fat.

What I was trying to say in a nutshell.

Her BMI is 18 .... anything below 18.5% is considered underweight for her size.
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/BMI/bmicalc.htm

I am not about skinny shaming. I agree we all come in different shapes and sizes but I just think that she went from one extreme to another. From being overweight to underweight. I don't know if she simply did it for the money and plans on gaining the weight back, I don't know her personally so I cannot say that.

What I hope happens, after the sheer shock of her intense weight loss, Biggest Loser re-thinks its position. It should be all about healthy weight loss. So there should be a line that cannot get crossed. They should sit down with each of the contestants and a dr and determine what the lowest HEALTHY weight is for that person and put in their contracts that if they go below that line, they are disqualified.

Lets remember, this is supposed to motivate people to start their journey, not to promote unhealthy weight loss.

All in all, I really would rather watch Chris Powell and his wife on his show because its a one on one thing and that person's health is the priority! That is how it should be.

Suddenly BMI charts are accurate because we are talking about a skinny woman?

I guess anybody with a BMI of 25.5 deserves ridicule and has an eating disorder as well.

Her BMI is 18 .... anything below 18.5% is considered underweight for her size.
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/BMI/bmicalc.htm

I am not about skinny shaming. I agree we all come in different shapes and sizes but I just think that she went from one extreme to another. From being overweight to underweight. I don't know if she simply did it for the money and plans on gaining the weight back, I don't know her personally so I cannot say that.

What I hope happens, after the sheer shock of her intense weight loss, Biggest Loser re-thinks its position. It should be all about healthy weight loss. So there should be a line that cannot get crossed. They should sit down with each of the contestants and a dr and determine what the lowest HEALTHY weight is for that person and put in their contracts that if they go below that line, they are disqualified.

Lets remember, this is supposed to motivate people to start their journey, not to promote unhealthy weight loss.

All in all, I really would rather watch Chris Powell and his wife on his show because its a one on one thing and that person's health is the priority! That is how it should be.

Suddenly BMI charts are accurate because we are talking about a skinny woman?

I guess anybody with a BMI of 25.5 deserves ridicule and has an eating disorder as well.

BMI charts are used for people of ALL sizes. I am not using it strictly because she is skinny. I am overweight and I know it and I am working on correcting that. My dr sat me down and showed me where I personally was on the BMI chart so no, I am NOT saying it simply because she is skinny, as I said, she went from one extreme to another. Unhealthy overweight and Unhealthy underweight. Also, as I said, who is to say she wont gain some back to look better and be healthy and just did the drastic and unhealthy weight loss for the money. We do not know but it does set a very poor example.

Sorry, but I don't see how somebody finishing their weight loss journey sets a poor example.

Her BMI is 18 .... anything below 18.5% is considered underweight for her size.
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/BMI/bmicalc.htm

I am not about skinny shaming. I agree we all come in different shapes and sizes but I just think that she went from one extreme to another. From being overweight to underweight. I don't know if she simply did it for the money and plans on gaining the weight back, I don't know her personally so I cannot say that.

What I hope happens, after the sheer shock of her intense weight loss, Biggest Loser re-thinks its position. It should be all about healthy weight loss. So there should be a line that cannot get crossed. They should sit down with each of the contestants and a dr and determine what the lowest HEALTHY weight is for that person and put in their contracts that if they go below that line, they are disqualified.

Lets remember, this is supposed to motivate people to start their journey, not to promote unhealthy weight loss.

All in all, I really would rather watch Chris Powell and his wife on his show because its a one on one thing and that person's health is the priority! That is how it should be.

Suddenly BMI charts are accurate because we are talking about a skinny woman?

I guess anybody with a BMI of 25.5 deserves ridicule and has an eating disorder as well.

BMI charts are used for people of ALL sizes. I am not using it strictly because she is skinny. I am overweight and I know it and I am working on correcting that. My dr sat me down and showed me where I personally was on the BMI chart so no, I am NOT saying it simply because she is skinny, as I said, she went from one extreme to another. Unhealthy overweight and Unhealthy underweight. Also, as I said, who is to say she wont gain some back to look better and be healthy and just did the drastic and unhealthy weight loss for the money. We do not know but it does set a very poor example.

Sorry, but I don't see how somebody finishing their weight loss journey sets a poor example.

Well, if you are comfortable watching someone win a prize for being at an unhealthy size, that is up to you. As I said, even Bob and Jillian had a look of pure and honest concern on their faces when she walked out.

Let me be clear, I am not jealous, I am not envious, I am not hating on skinny people. I am just saying it is a concern when we see someone looking as unhealthy as she does, and underweight that we give her a prize and say "job well done, better too skinny then too fat"