tattoo argument with spouse
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Baby, sweetheart, darling, I'm a writer. I wrote a column for a newspaper for a while and published many, many news stories with my name on them. One day I will publish a novel.
This all assumes that people are doing it for others.Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating to. Thats why its the universal ice-breaker for the insecure members of our society to relate to one-another.
So there is no variable art in it per se as in the specific designs or what they "mean" "to you" (like anyone cares). Its a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
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The only thing I'm looking for in mine is "it's pretty," No more, no less. And I have long hair and generally wear a shirt in public, so few people would even see one on my upper back to be able to make it a conversation starter.
My best friend has a tattoo. Unless you see her in a bathing suit or naked (you would get neither -- she has better taste, and that's not saying much), you would never know she has it. It's a turtle. Why? Because she likes turtles. She also has turtle figurines all over her house. Is she doing that for attention?
Its not about what it is, its the dramatic and romantic self-engrandizing act, nay the ceremony, of such a permanent and self-aware act.
Despite the stated intent, there will always be that emotional relationship to it, the thought, anticipation, the ritual, the after-glow, the new horizons of self identity.
To understand what I am saying one must agree with this statement: Absolutely everyone just wants someone to hear what they have to say. (Even the hermit who moved to Alaska because of his contempt for society wants you to watch the show about how they are surviving in the middle of nowhere out there)
Everyone just wants someone to hear what they have to say. --If you can comprehend the profundity of that psychology, we can begin to have a discussion.
I don't need a tattoo to let people know what I have to say.0 -
This all assumes that people are doing it for others.Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating to. Thats why its the universal ice-breaker for the insecure members of our society to relate to one-another.
So there is no variable art in it per se as in the specific designs or what they "mean" "to you" (like anyone cares). Its a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
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The only thing I'm looking for in mine is "it's pretty," No more, no less. And I have long hair and generally wear a shirt in public, so few people would even see one on my upper back to be able to make it a conversation starter.
My best friend has a tattoo. Unless you see her in a bathing suit or naked (you would get neither -- she has better taste, and that's not saying much), you would never know she has it. It's a turtle. Why? Because she likes turtles. She also has turtle figurines all over her house. Is she doing that for attention?
Its not about what it is, its the dramatic and romantic self-engrandizing procedure, nay the ceremony, of such a permanent and self-aware act.
Despite the stated intent, there will always be that emotional relationship to it, the thought, anticipation, the ritual, the after-glow, the new horizons of self identity.
To understand what I am saying one must agree with this statement: Absolutely everyone just wants someone to hear what they have to say. (Even the hermit who moved to Alaska because of his contempt for society wants you to watch the show about how they are surviving in the middle of nowhere out there). Despite misguidedness of some peoples expression, the subconscious machinations of wanting to be heard one way or another are always present.
Everyone just wants someone to hear what they have to say. --If you can comprehend the profundity of that psychology, we can begin to have a discussion.
Boy, you talk a lot. Maybe you should just zip it and get a tattoo. Hmm?0 -
Do you guys realize why Myspace was the dawn of all social networks?
The core thesis was because people love to explore different identities.
Like the girl who went from regular, to goth, to sporty all in 4 months and had completely different profile experiments.
We all love to explore identities like that when we are developing emotionally. But again you ask yourself why? And the answer is always motivated by insecurity.0 -
I want another tattoo. I have 2, one of which was an impulse and I regret. I know what I want the tattoo of but not sure of the design or where I'd put it yet. As far as the topic of whether you should get your spouse's permission. I don't think I'd bother getting married if it meant I needed permission for every decision I made, especially regarding my own body. I mean why bother being with someone if you can't be yourself?0
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Well, you would certainly be the expert in insecurity.Do you guys realize why Myspace was the dawn of all social networks?
The core thesis was because people love to explore different identities.
Like the girl who went from regular, to goth, to sporty all in 4 months and had completely different profile experiments.
We all love to explore identities like that when we are developing emotionally. But again you ask yourself why? And the answer is always motivated by insecurity.0 -
Its not about what it is, its the dramatic and romantic self-engrandizing procedure, nay the ceremony, of such a permanent and self-aware act.
Despite the stated intent, there will always be that emotional relationship to it, the thought, anticipation, the ritual, the after-glow, the new horizons of self identity.
To understand what I am saying one must agree with this statement: Absolutely everyone just wants someone to hear what they have to say. (Even the hermit who moved to Alaska because of his contempt for society wants you to watch the show about how they are surviving in the middle of nowhere out there). Despite misguidedness of some peoples expression, the subconscious machinations of wanting to be heard one way or another are always present.
Everyone just wants someone to hear what they have to say. --If you can comprehend the profundity of that psychology, we can begin to have a discussion.
I have a degree in Psychology and this is plain word salad.
There was no glow when I got my tattoo and I often forget I have one. I think of it as much as I think of the beauty mark on my back. I got it because I could and wanted. Call it boredom or art, it's just a tattoo.0 -
This all assumes that people are doing it for others.Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating to. Thats why its the universal ice-breaker for the insecure members of our society to relate to one-another.
So there is no variable art in it per se as in the specific designs or what they "mean" "to you" (like anyone cares). Its a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
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The only thing I'm looking for in mine is "it's pretty," No more, no less. And I have long hair and generally wear a shirt in public, so few people would even see one on my upper back to be able to make it a conversation starter.
My best friend has a tattoo. Unless you see her in a bathing suit or naked (you would get neither -- she has better taste, and that's not saying much), you would never know she has it. It's a turtle. Why? Because she likes turtles. She also has turtle figurines all over her house. Is she doing that for attention?
Its not about what it is, its the dramatic and romantic self-engrandizing procedure, nay the ceremony, of such a permanent and self-aware act.
Despite the stated intent, there will always be that emotional relationship to it, the thought, anticipation, the ritual, the after-glow, the new horizons of self identity.
To understand what I am saying one must agree with this statement: Absolutely everyone just wants someone to hear what they have to say. (Even the hermit who moved to Alaska because of his contempt for society wants you to watch the show about how they are surviving in the middle of nowhere out there). Despite misguidedness of some peoples expression, the subconscious machinations of wanting to be heard one way or another are always present.
Everyone just wants someone to hear what they have to say. --If you can comprehend the profundity of that psychology, we can begin to have a discussion.
It's cute how you think everyone that disagrees with you just doesn't *understand* how deep and meaningful your point is.
We're dumb because we think he's wrong, guys.0 -
This all assumes that people are doing it for others.Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating to. Thats why its the universal ice-breaker for the insecure members of our society to relate to one-another.
So there is no variable art in it per se as in the specific designs or what they "mean" "to you" (like anyone cares). Its a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
'
The only thing I'm looking for in mine is "it's pretty," No more, no less. And I have long hair and generally wear a shirt in public, so few people would even see one on my upper back to be able to make it a conversation starter.
My best friend has a tattoo. Unless you see her in a bathing suit or naked (you would get neither -- she has better taste, and that's not saying much), you would never know she has it. It's a turtle. Why? Because she likes turtles. She also has turtle figurines all over her house. Is she doing that for attention?
Its not about what it is, its the dramatic and romantic self-engrandizing procedure, nay the ceremony, of such a permanent and self-aware act.
Despite the stated intent, there will always be that emotional relationship to it, the thought, anticipation, the ritual, the after-glow, the new horizons of self identity.
To understand what I am saying one must agree with this statement: Absolutely everyone just wants someone to hear what they have to say. (Even the hermit who moved to Alaska because of his contempt for society wants you to watch the show about how they are surviving in the middle of nowhere out there). Despite misguidedness of some peoples expression, the subconscious machinations of wanting to be heard one way or another are always present.
Everyone just wants someone to hear what they have to say. --If you can comprehend the profundity of that psychology, we can begin to have a discussion.
Sweet mother of god... If you're going to try to talk all fancy, will you PUH-LEEZE use correct pronoun agreement???
Seriously, fourth graders may not know the word "profundity", but they DO know which pronoun to use.
Forrest, go back to running. Srs.0 -
I am 48 yrs old professional...Got my first Tat at 42. and my second....third last year. All are discreet, I show them depneding how I dress & if I choose. Two are on my right calf above my ankle, the third on my left breast.....I am proud of my tattoos!! Hubby is not trilled, but it is my body! Besides, he has one on his chest from the military....I say, if you want it, go for it!!!0
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Do you guys realize why Myspace was the dawn of all social networks?
The core thesis was because people love to explore different identities.
Like the girl who went from regular, to goth, to sporty all in 4 months and had completely different profile experiments.
We all love to explore identities like that when we are developing emotionally. But again you ask yourself why? And the answer is always motivated by insecurity.
I thought the local tavern was the dawn of all social networks.0 -
Amusingly my daughter has a tattoo on her one foot but I'm not allowed to get inked anywhere just because. Go figure. If I had something I really wanted I would anyway. But I don't so there's no argument.
I guess I don't see a tattoo as life changing. I would recommend against a tramp stamp just because I doubt you want to be identified as such. But beyond that why not?0 -
I am a 53 year old female. I really like tattoos but don't have any myself. I started liking them a few years back and find men very attractive with them. I have my preferences, but to each his own. I am from New York and have always wanted to get something
hidden on me, but I am afraid it will look bad when I am older so I have decided not to. Once I get to my goal weight, I might
get a small one. From what I understand about tatoos from others that I have talked to, they are very meaningful to the person that gets it and I don't think that you should stop anyone from doing it. It is who they are and you should accept that just the way you
accept the way your partner dresses or does their hair. It is good to discuss it, but the choice should be yours. I wouldn't let anyone tell me what to do or not do with my body - same with my partner.0 -
Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating too.
So there is no art in it or the specific designs. Its like a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
Hmm. Interesting. My tattoo says I made it 3 years post cancer and I need a 4th Bird since technically I've made it 4 now.
So what you are saying is we are mortal and it hurts?
I feel you on that.
So, by trite, you mean overused and consequently of little importance; lacking originality or freshness. And by low-brow you mean I have no intellect because I have tattoos?
Dude, really. That's a very egotistical comment to make in general. I got my tattoos in celebration of an event in my life that I was proud of. I don't mind sharing my story of what they mean, but they are not in a spot that is in your face, to draw attention. As far as my intellect goes, I have a BS degree in Computer Science and one in Business Admin and am working on my MBA right now. No intellect issues here.0 -
Listen to your husband and hopefully he will be your only one.
WTF?!?! Is this the 1950's and women have to be subservient again?0 -
Don't use the internet to ***** about your spouse. How would you feel if he tried to undermine your opinions by slagging you off.
This is between you two, but mainly your damn decision. Give him a step to have an opinion don't get angry if he doesn't share the same one. It is your body, and your decision. However don't act like a 3 year old yourself slagging him off. You're a grown adult, act like one.0 -
Uuugg. fighting with the husband over as yet non-existent tattoo = really dumb argument!!!
So what if I'm honest and like the fact 90% of the people I know won't see my tattoo coming. I'm still getting it for me. It Doesn't mean I can't enjoy just a little shock value...right?
He said its a life changing thing. I can't possibly know what its like. That set me off! Oh really!?! like, altering my body beyond recognition to have a child??? that kind of life altering thing??? Lets see...Choosing a piece of art versus my body conforming to accommodate a child... yep I'll take the 100% my choice art work thanks.
Really I only had 3 beers lol.
You know... I'm a 39 year old with 25 tattoos, a husband of 17 years, and no children. It's perfectly okay to like the shock value, but do remember that you're getting a tattoo because its what YOU want. not what your spouse wants, not what your mum wants, etc. Yeah, they ARE life changing. You're letting someone you barely know mark you fairly permanently and if the screw up, it could be bad, but if they do it perfectly (or very VERY minor things, like a shakey line)... and it's BEAUTIFUL (beauty is in the eye, afterall).. then it can give you confidence beyond anything. To know that you were brave enough to sit under the steady hand of someone to see YOUR art come to life... to decorate YOUR body for YOU... and knowing that is going to let you do things that you were afraid to try earlier. Yeah, it's life changing, alright... in a good way. (Placement on the body is VERY important, btw.)0 -
Listen to your husband and hopefully he will be your only one.
I listen to husband's concerns, but I don't obey him blindly. He wants to find somebody 1/2 as amazing as me, GOOD LUCK.0 -
I have a condescending tone because what I said has been rearranged added to taken away from then submitted for approval by the last person to quote what I said.You can remove portions of what people quote and then add what you want to change what the person said in the first place. I congratulate the ones of you that have to done what I just said. Well done! I've done most of those things but I'm not stuck with ink embedded in my body that I'm stuck with for life. Like I said I wasn't judging anyway. So, take the portion of this statement you like or dislike and dub out what will spin it how it works best for you.
you "stuck with" like it's an old weight or a saddle bag that you are saddled with and don't want.
yes you are stuck with it for life- unless you want painful surgery to remove it- but that's why you don't rush it and make sure you really want it- and like it and have an artist who can give you good work. That's the fricking POINT of a tattoo.
I'm not 'stuck' with my art any more than I'm "stuck" with my boyfriend- I chose them- and I want them in my life.
You say you aren't judging- but your condescending tone indicates otherwise.
When everyone is through changing what I said I'll be glad to sign a copy for your amusement.
Over and Out!
I quoted THAT specific passage and changed nothing. I wasn't talking about ANYTHING other than that post I quoted.
LOFUKINGL at dictionary guy.
Wildly amusing.
hysterically I drew mine- I'm an artist- and I had an artists ink mine. And I am also an engineer- so I guess I'm a starving- not starving artist? super low brow indeed.0 -
Listen to your husband and hopefully he will be your only one.
I listen to husband's concerns, but I don't obey him blindly. He wants to find somebody 1/2 as amazing as me, GOOD LUCK.
I'll just look for someone with a tattoo.0 -
Listen to your husband and hopefully he will be your only one.
I listen to husband's concerns, but I don't obey him blindly. He wants to find somebody 1/2 as amazing as me, GOOD LUCK.
^^This0 -
Don't use the internet to ***** about your spouse. How would you feel if he tried to undermine your opinions by slagging you off.
This is between you two, but mainly your damn decision. Give him a step to have an opinion don't get angry if he doesn't share the same one. It is your body, and your decision. However don't act like a 3 year old yourself slagging him off. You're a grown adult, act like one.
Best answer ever!!!!0 -
Honestly he should respect that it's your body. You can decorate it as you please! As long as you remember that it's a forever mark, you should be fine! I don't regret any of mine...0
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I'm sorry but are you kidding me!?
It's her freaking body. She can get a tattoo if she wants it.
And does not need his permission or approval.
He can step off.
So true, its HER body, but it is a marriage, a partnership. Where ALL things should be discussed. I'm the only one with a job in my home, so should I go spend my money on a New Les Paul and tell her "It's my Money B#*ch! I do what I want!
Oh, and I have Tattoos, so I'm not judging you for them. BUT I have seen too many people get Tats only to regret them because they didn't think it through. There's no hurry, wait a year if you still feel that way then get your Tat.0 -
You shouldn't. I'm just smiling.Tattoos are just trash!!!!
Seriously though why are we listening to old peoples opinions of tattoos!? Why are those people relevant!?
Hahaha yes! THIS!
When I was younger, I thought shoulder length hair was cool. Fortunately, when styles changed, I didn't have to go to a long hair removal studio to change it. This time I'm sure it will be different. Whatever tattoo you get at 20 or 30, you will surely like when you are 40 or 50. Some things are just timeless.
Yes I could come to regret getting a tattoo but it's just a marking on my skin, it can be covered and in the grand scheme of things it's of little relevance.
There a lots of things you can come to regret in life. Right now I seriously regret taking a job with my family, a regret just like I could regret having a tattoo. Big difference? The decision to work with my family is having an actual effect on my life but should that meaniI stop taking risks or acting on how I feel at a particular time? Hell no! That'd be ridiculous.
When I got my biggest tattoo at 18 (the one in my profile picture) I remember my mum having the typical reaction 'old people' have. She screamed at me that she'd paid for my body, that I'd never get employment (lol I work for her now) that I'd look stupid when I was old (my grandpa had loads of army tatts and I thought he looked BADASS, oh and he said he didn't regret a thing, that it reminded him of old times) Perhaps saying old people is the wrong choice of words and I apologise to any of the non judgemental older folk who see life as it is (let's remember non of it means fk all because they're all gonna end up as rotten worm food anyhow) but to those who truly believe your going to change your life for the worse because of a farking drawing on your skin then I say GET A GRIP!0 -
Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating to. Thats why its the universal ice-breaker for the insecure members of our society to relate to one-another.
So there is no variable art in it per se as in it or the specific designs or what they "mean" "to you" (like anyone cares). Its like a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
Cool story, bro. How do you express yourself artistically? Do you have a series of shirtless selfies on exhibit in the Tate Modern in London? I'm sure whatever artistic endeavors you undertake must be SO deep and awesome because you're SO self-assured and confident and a shining beacon of inspiration to us bottom-feeding insecure wretches.
I live in a country where having tattoos gets me excluded from public gyms, public baths, public pools. I would lose my job if any of my students saw my tattoos. I do not have any friends with tattoos here. So why do I keep getting more? Because I like them. I'm not trying to make any kind of statement, or "connection" with anyone. So guess again, "brah" and don't worry, I'm sure you're not overcompensating for anything yourself
When I was still in high school I was in movies.
By 19 I had starred, produced, directed, edited, a commercial that ended up on MTV every day, three times a day, for two months.
I have written works that have been read by more people than you favorite author or column writer ever has.
I have done such a wide versatile of artistic expressions that the list of what I have done is synonymous with modern art: Acting, Modeling, Directing, Screenwriting, Stand-Up Comedy, Film Production, Professional Dancing, Film Criticism and even Photography and Product Marketing.
And you think Im impressed by your wack tattoos or consider it art? lol.
At least make it a piece that is congruent with the body on a symmetrical and aesthetic level, like sleeves or leg, side design and not some blob of something that just looks like a dirty stain on your flesh about something that nobody really cares about and is associated with trash and pain and insecurity.
My art speaks on the beauty and celebration of life. Your "art" is about death.0 -
Listen to your husband and hopefully he will be your only one.
I agree. When u become married ur body is not your own but now belongs to your husband and VISE VERSA. It's not just you that has to live with the tattoo he does too. It's not something like dying your hair that is temporary. I wouldn't get one anyway but if I knew my husband was against it I wouldn't get one just like I know if the situation was flipped he wouldnt.0 -
Honestly he should respect that it's your body. You can decorate it as you please! As long as you remember that it's a forever mark, you should be fine! I don't regret any of mine...
Honestly she should respect that she entered into a partnership with him and that he has offered her an opinion. Perhaps she should ponder how she would feel if he drew a knife down his body and cause a disfiguring scar that she didn't like?
Ultimately it is her body but they should spend more time working through their feelings about the situation and come to a conclusion that they both feel comfortable with. That's what being in an adult relationship is all about.0 -
I personally would never get one and I was raised with a certain distaste for them and that they project a different social class. That being said- I don't find them as appalling as other people do. Some are kind-of interesting.
And tattygun- we are all wormfood one day - you too dear.0 -
Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating to. Thats why its the universal ice-breaker for the insecure members of our society to relate to one-another.
So there is no variable art in it per se as in it or the specific designs or what they "mean" "to you" (like anyone cares). Its like a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
Cool story, bro. How do you express yourself artistically? Do you have a series of shirtless selfies on exhibit in the Tate Modern in London? I'm sure whatever artistic endeavors you undertake must be SO deep and awesome because you're SO self-assured and confident and a shining beacon of inspiration to us bottom-feeding insecure wretches.
I live in a country where having tattoos gets me excluded from public gyms, public baths, public pools. I would lose my job if any of my students saw my tattoos. I do not have any friends with tattoos here. So why do I keep getting more? Because I like them. I'm not trying to make any kind of statement, or "connection" with anyone. So guess again, "brah" and don't worry, I'm sure you're not overcompensating for anything yourself
When I was still in high school I was in movies.
By 19 I had starred, produced, directed, edited, a commercial that ended up on MTV every day, three times a day, for two months.
I have written works that have been read by more people than you favorite author or column writer ever has.
I have done such a wide versatile of artistic expressions that the list of what I have done is synonymous with modern art: Acting, Modeling, Directing, Screenwriting, Stand-Up Comedy, Film Production, Professional Dancing, Film Criticism and even Photography and Product Marketing.
And you think Im impressed by your wack tattoos or consider it art? lol.
At least make it a piece that is congruent with the body on a symmetrical and aesthetic level, like sleeves or leg, side design and not some blob of something that just looks like a dirty stain on your flesh about something that nobody really cares about and is associated with trash and pain and insecurity.
My art speaks on the beauty and celebration of life. Your "art" is about death.
No one cares that you were in a commercial; so is the yellow M&M. And her tatttoo isn't about death; just as my brain cancer/tumor tattoo is, it's about survival and life.
go back to the forest.0 -
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha.When I was still in high school I was in movies.
By 19 I had starred, produced, directed, edited, a commercial that ended up on MTV every day, three times a day, for two months.
I have written works that have been read by more people than you favorite author or column writer ever has.
I have done such a wide versatile of artistic expressions that the list of what I have done is synonymous with modern art: Acting, Modeling, Directing, Screenwriting, Stand-Up Comedy, Film Production, Professional Dancing, Film Criticism and even Photography and Product Marketing.
And you think Im impressed by your wack tattoos or consider it art? lol.
At least make it a piece that is congruent with the body on a symmetrical and aesthetic level, like sleeves or leg, side design and not some blob of something that just looks like a dirty stain on your flesh about something that nobody really cares about and is associated with trash and pain and insecurity.
My art speaks on the beauty and celebration of life. Your "art" is about death.
OMG. Please stop. I cannot breathe!
You really should take this stuff on the road. Better than Jerry Seinfeld.0
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