tattoo argument with spouse
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Meh- seems to be the lack of communication and part of your drive to get it (the shock factor)
I waited over a year for mine- I waited for the right thing to come to me (my design) drew it- waited- and then hunted for the right artist- I interviewed several people and settled on a guy who liked the design and was happy to do the work. Regardless of what you think of tattoo's there is no question they are art.
Much like any other art- there is good art- bad art and amazing art- trashy art- that's why it's art. To me it is indefinitly ART. It's MY art- done through another artists hand- which is why it was so important it be art to him as well- not just something he traced and threw on my back.
Which is also why I have a beautiful piece of art on my back.
No- I have not changed. I also have not noticed a significant change in how people view me- approach me or deal with me. Granted it's not highly visible but it hasn't affected my life at all.
I also have zero regrets- (prior planning and patience will do that for you) and I am happy to have a memorial/milestone representing a chapter in my life- it's a book end. I love it. I love everything that it means to me and what it represents.
I get a great deal of compliments on it more than anything else.
Good art is good art- no matter what the media. And no question you pay for what you get.
The shock value meh- whatever. Everyone assumes I'm inked everywhere from my personality- and I haven't been. It has nothing to do with the tattoo. It's a shallow side affect- you can revel in it as much or as little as you want- mine was deeply personal so it wasn't about that. I didn't care.
Get the da*n thing if you want it. not because you want to shock people- you aren't 16.0 -
I don't know that he is against them. He likes to take the most ridiculous stance on any subject to get attention. You can't reallytake anything he says very seriously.
It's OK. He's just being himself. Best to either ignore or make fun of. Your choice, really.I'm still deciding WHAT I want. Well, color, anyway. I'm pretty sure I want the Chinese dragon symbol (my sign) or an actual dragon or possibly something that incorporates a dragon and a Capricorn ... So, you see my dilemma.
Plus, I am a total wimp about pain and even worse about spending money on something unneccesary.
How about getting one that reads: "Tattoos were really trendy in 2014."
(So you will always remember this time)
Wow, dude, what's with the hate?
I'm genuinely interested as to why a young guy like this would be so vehemently against tattoos? He's the same age as me, and it just seems odd to me. I totally understand people my age not wanting them, but to be actively "anti" tattoo? I just wonder why.
Ah... He wants his women unmarred, perfect, submissive, and preferably in their late teens so that he can teach them true passion. He's said so himself.0 -
Ah... He wants his women unmarred, perfect, submissive, and preferably in their late teens so that he can teach them true passion. He's said so himself.
And apparently tattooless.0 -
LMAO
Of course. Because I only ever do what's trendy.I'm still deciding WHAT I want. Well, color, anyway. I'm pretty sure I want the Chinese dragon symbol (my sign) or an actual dragon or possibly something that incorporates a dragon and a Capricorn ... So, you see my dilemma.
Plus, I am a total wimp about pain and even worse about spending money on something unneccesary.
How about getting one that reads: "Tattoos were really trendy in 2014."
(So you will always remember this time)
What about one that says: "I got this tattoo because I have insecurities and I secretly want attention and small talk from strangers because I don't generally stand out or impress people with my default stature, yet I still crave a way to express my existential trauma and subconsciously want people to acknowledge I exist so this is the misguided and permanent way I chose to express that."
Oh, honey. Just ...
Oh, honey.
OHHH I know!!
Maybe you can have some creepy bond with your tattoo artist too. Refer to him by first name like you suddenly personally share a piece of each other for life.
It will feel really sexy and you can play it off like its just the intimate logistics of getting a tattoo.
Its pure art and Im sure your future partners will love it.0 -
You can remove portions of what people quote and then add what you want to change what the person said in the first place. I congratulate the ones of you that have to done what I just said. Well done! I've done most of those things but I'm not stuck with ink embedded in my body that I'm stuck with for life. Like I said I wasn't judging anyway. So, take the portion of this statement you like or dislike and dub out what will spin it how it works best for you.
defiling the body? eh? not judging......come on, if you going to throw bibles at it atleast be honest as well.
.Not judging people who get tats.Uuugg. fighting with the husband over as yet non-existent tattoo = really dumb argument!!!
So what if I'm honest and like the fact 90% of the people I know won't see my tattoo coming. I'm still getting it for me. It Doesn't mean I can't enjoy just a little shock value...right?
He said its a life changing thing. I can't possibly know what its like. That set me off! Oh really!?! like, altering my body beyond recognition to have a child??? that kind of life altering thing??? Lets see...Choosing a piece of art versus my body conforming to accommodate a child... yep I'll take the 100% my choice art work thanks.
Really I only had 3 beers lol.
Right? I mean, drinking "defiles" the body, so does smoking, eating bad foods, getting too much sun.... Wonder how many of those things that dude did in his day....0 -
I don't know that he is against them. He likes to take the most ridiculous stance on any subject to get attention. You can't reallytake anything he says very seriously.
It's OK. He's just being himself. Best to either ignore or make fun of. Your choice, really.I'm still deciding WHAT I want. Well, color, anyway. I'm pretty sure I want the Chinese dragon symbol (my sign) or an actual dragon or possibly something that incorporates a dragon and a Capricorn ... So, you see my dilemma.
Plus, I am a total wimp about pain and even worse about spending money on something unneccesary.
How about getting one that reads: "Tattoos were really trendy in 2014."
(So you will always remember this time)
Wow, dude, what's with the hate?
I'm genuinely interested as to why a young guy like this would be so vehemently against tattoos? He's the same age as me, and it just seems odd to me. I totally understand people my age not wanting them, but to be actively "anti" tattoo? I just wonder why.
Ah... He wants his women unmarred, perfect, submissive, and preferably in their late teens so that he can teach them true passion. He's said so himself.
Good lord, what an utter catch. Excuse me while I go get all my thousands of dollars worth of tattoos (that I paid for with money I earned travelling the world and working for a living as a teacher) lasered off and pack it all in for a white picket fence, an apron and a nice man who will take care of me and show me the mysteries of love.
Or not.0 -
You can remove portions of what people quote and then add what you want to change what the person said in the first place. I congratulate the ones of you that have to done what I just said. Well done! I've done most of those things but I'm not stuck with ink embedded in my body that I'm stuck with for life. Like I said I wasn't judging anyway. So, take the portion of this statement you like or dislike and dub out what will spin it how it works best for you.
you "stuck with" like it's an old weight or a saddle bag that you are saddled with and don't want.
yes you are stuck with it for life- unless you want painful surgery to remove it- but that's why you don't rush it and make sure you really want it- and like it and have an artist who can give you good work. That's the fricking POINT of a tattoo.
I'm not 'stuck' with my art any more than I'm "stuck" with my boyfriend- I chose them- and I want them in my life.
You say you aren't judging- but your condescending tone indicates otherwise.0 -
It's OK. He's just being himself. Best to either ignore or make fun of. Your choice, really.I'm still deciding WHAT I want. Well, color, anyway. I'm pretty sure I want the Chinese dragon symbol (my sign) or an actual dragon or possibly something that incorporates a dragon and a Capricorn ... So, you see my dilemma.
Plus, I am a total wimp about pain and even worse about spending money on something unneccesary.
How about getting one that reads: "Tattoos were really trendy in 2014."
(So you will always remember this time)
Wow, dude, what's with the hate?
I'm genuinely interested as to why a young guy like this would be so vehemently against tattoos? He's the same age as me, and it just seems odd to me. I totally understand people my age not wanting them, but to be actively "anti" tattoo? I just wonder why.
He most likely isn't against them. He just needs to feel important, and it appears that the only way he can do that is by starting conflict, and disagreeing with everything everyone says. Kind of like my 6 year old when she feels she isn't getting enough attention she acts out seeking the negative attention. Kind of heartbreaking if you ask me. :brokenheart:0 -
I don't know that he is against them. He likes to take the most ridiculous stance on any subject to get attention. You can't reallytake anything he says very seriously.
It's OK. He's just being himself. Best to either ignore or make fun of. Your choice, really.I'm still deciding WHAT I want. Well, color, anyway. I'm pretty sure I want the Chinese dragon symbol (my sign) or an actual dragon or possibly something that incorporates a dragon and a Capricorn ... So, you see my dilemma.
Plus, I am a total wimp about pain and even worse about spending money on something unneccesary.
How about getting one that reads: "Tattoos were really trendy in 2014."
(So you will always remember this time)
Wow, dude, what's with the hate?
I'm genuinely interested as to why a young guy like this would be so vehemently against tattoos? He's the same age as me, and it just seems odd to me. I totally understand people my age not wanting them, but to be actively "anti" tattoo? I just wonder why.
Ah... He wants his women unmarred, perfect, submissive, and preferably in their late teens so that he can teach them true passion. He's said so himself.
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Listen to your husband and hopefully he will be your only one.
It's so depressing that this attitude still exists, even in an older generation.
Seriously, your husband isn't your boss. And unless you're getting something like a swastika on your face then no big deal in my opinion!0 -
Its pure art and Im sure your future partners will love it.
My fiance might have something to say about my future partners that would be far worse than whether they like my tattoos.
Unlike you, I am not actually single and haven't been for a very long time. People who have self-esteem and intelligence actually enjoy my company. Thanks for playing. :flowerforyou:0 -
Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating to. Thats why its the universal ice-breaker for the insecure members of our society to relate to one-another.
So there is no variable art in it per se as in the specific designs or what they "mean" "to you" (like anyone cares). Its a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.0 -
Too much to read through. If you want a tattoo, get it. If he doesn't like it, tough sh×t. I've defiled my body plenty of times, be it tattoos, scars, and stretch marks from carrying around an 8 pound human. Be you. He can either like it or go f@ck himself.
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Listen to your husband and hopefully he will be your only one.
It's so depressing that this attitude still exists, even in an older generation.
Seriously, your husband isn't your boss. And unless you're getting something like a swastika on your face then no big deal in my opinion!
Completely disagree with it being no big deal. Good relationships are based on mutual respect. If it's a big deal to her husband than it is a big deal. Just doing what you want and disregarding your spouse is selfish and disrespectful. If you act that way you should expect to be treated that way in return.0 -
Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating too.
So there is no art in it or the specific designs. Its like a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
Hmm. Interesting. My tattoo says I made it 3 years post cancer and I need a 4th Bird since technically I've made it 4 now.0 -
Wow. Uhm... I really don't get what the argument was about but... I have 2 tattoos. One is on my leg (which of course is only seen during the summer months... if then because I have really pale skin
) and the other is on my lower back (cue the tramp stamp comments) which of course I only see because I am uncomfortable with wearing clothes that show my lower back in my present state of weight . My sister told me getting a tattoo only I see is a total waste.. and I don't agree. I know it's there... I like it.... I got it for me.
I guess I can see why he would say its life changing because you really have to think about it... because you will have it forever. It's not like getting a haircut which will grow back. Sure, I get your having a baby argument but one never knows ahead of time how their body will react to their pregnancy. Some lucky devils get out unscathed with nary a stretch mark. So.... get a tattoo if you want one... but REALLY think about what you get and where because you can't rub that sucker off if you change your mind
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My wife wants a tattoo. I don't like tattoos. So I told her I'd rather she didn't get a tattoo, and got the standard "my body my decision" yadda yadda ..
Well, I'd like a brand .. so I said "ok, cool, get your tattoo and I'll get a brand." .. the first thing out of her mouth was "you will NOT get a brand, that's disgusting"
So I said .. ok. Just don't get a tattoo, then.
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Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating too.
So there is no art in it or the specific designs. Its like a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
Hmm. Interesting. My tattoo says I made it 3 years post cancer and I need a 4th Bird since technically I've made it 4 now.
Apparently the same thing goes for my friends son who has the Chinese symbol for "cured" because he's been cured of Leukemia.
And the Iron Man symbol his father got tattooed on his calf because he completed his first Iron Man and wanted to show his accomplishment in a way that meant something to him.
Yup. Those are quite trite and low-brow.0 -
Ah... He wants his women unmarred, perfect, submissive, and preferably in their late teens so that he can teach them true passion. He's said so himself.
And apparently tattooless.
so there are no tattooed women in the enchanted forest............. what about tube socks with patterns embroidered on them?0 -
Both of mine are meaningful. I've got my husband's name on heart/banner on my shoulder, and a brain tumor survivor ribbon butterfly on my left arm. I think if you are going to put something permanent on your body, especially if you have a spouse who doesn't want to get one. My husband isn't a fan of tats but doesn't mind mine because they have meaning to me.0
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Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating too.
So there is no art in it or the specific designs. Its like a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
Hmm. Interesting. My tattoo says I made it 3 years post cancer and I need a 4th Bird since technically I've made it 4 now.
So what you are saying is we are mortal and it hurts?
I feel you on that.0 -
Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating too.
So there is no art in it or the specific designs. Its like a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
Hmm. Interesting. My tattoo says I made it 3 years post cancer and I need a 4th Bird since technically I've made it 4 now.
So what you are saying is we are mortal and it hurts?
I feel you on that.
Not quite sure where you're getting the "we're mortal and it hurts" from tattoos.
Do you feel the same way about piercings? What do those say about a person? I mean since you can read into the meaning of someones tattoo and why they got them obviously you have wisdom on piercings.0 -
This all assumes that people are doing it for others.Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating to. Thats why its the universal ice-breaker for the insecure members of our society to relate to one-another.
So there is no variable art in it per se as in the specific designs or what they "mean" "to you" (like anyone cares). Its a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
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The only thing I'm looking for in mine is "it's pretty," No more, no less. And I have long hair and generally wear a shirt in public, so few people would even see one on my upper back to be able to make it a conversation starter.
My best friend has a tattoo. Unless you see her in a bathing suit or naked (you would get neither -- she has better taste, and that's not saying much), you would never know she has it. It's a turtle. Why? Because she likes turtles. She also has turtle figurines all over her house. Is she doing that for attention?0 -
Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating to. Thats why its the universal ice-breaker for the insecure members of our society to relate to one-another.
So there is no variable art in it per se as in it or the specific designs or what they "mean" "to you" (like anyone cares). Its like a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
Cool story, bro. How do you express yourself artistically? Do you have a series of shirtless selfies on exhibit in the Tate Modern in London? I'm sure whatever artistic endeavors you undertake must be SO deep and awesome because you're SO self-assured and confident and a shining beacon of inspiration to us bottom-feeding insecure wretches.
I live in a country where having tattoos gets me excluded from public gyms, public baths, public pools. I would lose my job if any of my students saw my tattoos. I do not have any friends with tattoos here. So why do I keep getting more? Because I like them. I'm not trying to make any kind of statement, or "connection" with anyone. So guess again, "brah" and don't worry, I'm sure you're not overcompensating for anything yourself
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Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating to. Thats why its the universal ice-breaker for the insecure members of our society to relate to one-another.
So there is no variable art in it per se as in the specific designs or what they "mean" "to you" (like anyone cares). Its a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
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Uuugg. fighting with the husband over as yet non-existent tattoo = really dumb argument!!!
So what if I'm honest and like the fact 90% of the people I know won't see my tattoo coming. I'm still getting it for me. It Doesn't mean I can't enjoy just a little shock value...right?
He said its a life changing thing. I can't possibly know what its like. That set me off! Oh really!?! like, altering my body beyond recognition to have a child??? that kind of life altering thing??? Lets see...Choosing a piece of art versus my body conforming to accommodate a child... yep I'll take the 100% my choice art work thanks.
Really I only had 3 beers lol.
If you don't value his opinion...don't ask. Don't get upset if his opinion doesn't match yours.0 -
Cool story, bro. How do you express yourself artistically? Do you have a series of shirtless selfies on exhibit in the Tate Modern in London? I'm sure whatever artistic endeavors you undertake must be SO deep and awesome because you're SO self-assured and confident and a shining beacon of inspiration to us bottom-feeding insecure wretches.
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I have a condescending tone because what I said has been rearranged added to taken away from then submitted for approval by the last person to quote what I said.You can remove portions of what people quote and then add what you want to change what the person said in the first place. I congratulate the ones of you that have to done what I just said. Well done! I've done most of those things but I'm not stuck with ink embedded in my body that I'm stuck with for life. Like I said I wasn't judging anyway. So, take the portion of this statement you like or dislike and dub out what will spin it how it works best for you.
you "stuck with" like it's an old weight or a saddle bag that you are saddled with and don't want.
yes you are stuck with it for life- unless you want painful surgery to remove it- but that's why you don't rush it and make sure you really want it- and like it and have an artist who can give you good work. That's the fricking POINT of a tattoo.
I'm not 'stuck' with my art any more than I'm "stuck" with my boyfriend- I chose them- and I want them in my life.
You say you aren't judging- but your condescending tone indicates otherwise.
When everyone is through changing what I said I'll be glad to sign a copy for your amusement.
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This all assumes that people are doing it for others.Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating to. Thats why its the universal ice-breaker for the insecure members of our society to relate to one-another.
So there is no variable art in it per se as in the specific designs or what they "mean" "to you" (like anyone cares). Its a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
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The only thing I'm looking for in mine is "it's pretty," No more, no less. And I have long hair and generally wear a shirt in public, so few people would even see one on my upper back to be able to make it a conversation starter.
My best friend has a tattoo. Unless you see her in a bathing suit or naked (you would get neither -- she has better taste, and that's not saying much), you would never know she has it. It's a turtle. Why? Because she likes turtles. She also has turtle figurines all over her house. Is she doing that for attention?
Its not about what it is, its the dramatic and romantic self-engrandizing procedure, nay the ceremony, of such a permanent and self-aware act.
Despite the stated intent, there will always be that emotional relationship to it, the thought, anticipation, the ritual, the after-glow, the new horizons of self identity.
To understand what I am saying one must agree with this statement: Absolutely everyone just wants someone to hear what they have to say. (Even the hermit who moved to Alaska because of his contempt for society wants you to watch the show about how they are surviving in the middle of nowhere out there). Despite misguidedness of some peoples expression, the subconscious machinations of wanting to be heard one way or another are always present.
Everyone just wants someone to hear what they have to say. --If you can comprehend the profundity of that psychology, we can begin to have a discussion.0 -
This all assumes that people are doing it for others.Just so you guys know, as far as being considered "art" --tattoos are a one-note artistic statement.
It doesn't matter if you have a mural or a chinese symbol, it doesn't change the artistic thesis.
Every tattoo is essentially saying the same, trite, low-brow, one-note statement: we are mortal and it hurts.
Thats it.
Every time someone is impressed with your tattoo, that is what they are relating to. Thats why its the universal ice-breaker for the insecure members of our society to relate to one-another.
So there is no variable art in it per se as in the specific designs or what they "mean" "to you" (like anyone cares). Its a wholesale artistic expression for the insipid.
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The only thing I'm looking for in mine is "it's pretty," No more, no less. And I have long hair and generally wear a shirt in public, so few people would even see one on my upper back to be able to make it a conversation starter.
My best friend has a tattoo. Unless you see her in a bathing suit or naked (you would get neither -- she has better taste, and that's not saying much), you would never know she has it. It's a turtle. Why? Because she likes turtles. She also has turtle figurines all over her house. Is she doing that for attention?
Its not about what it is, its the dramatic and romantic self-engrandizing act, nay the ceremony, of such a permanent and self-aware act.
Despite the stated intent, there will always be that emotional relationship to it, the thought, anticipation, the ritual, the after-glow, the new horizons of self identity.
To understand what I am saying one must agree with this statement: Absolutely everyone just wants someone to hear what they have to say. (Even the hermit who moved to Alaska because of his contempt for society wants you to watch the show about how they are surviving in the middle of nowhere out there)
Everyone just wants someone to hear what they have to say. --If you can comprehend the profundity of that psychology, we can begin to have a discussion.
Put the dictionary down, brah.0
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