Skinny people who think they know better...

Just asking....

Do you think shes never had a weight problem because she watches her diet and works out? I used to be a skinny gal until I wasnt, lol. Ate what I wanted and stayed thin. When I turned 28 things changed. Anyway, my point is, when I realized I had crossed over to the dark side I started to work out. I saw all the skinny girls really working out hardcore. I thought to mysef "why are they here, they are skinny". I came to realize they were skinny because they were working for it and always had.

She's healthy and has healthy eating habits. That's why it bothered me actually... I don't think someone who has always had healthy eating and exercising habits is the best person to give her opinion about weight loss, when she probably has no idea what it's like to love calorie-heavy food, have binge issues etc.

But apparently, because I've learned most of what I know from MFP, it's wrong too. Whatever...

Actually. someone with healthy habits would probably have some good advice to offer. Why are you dismissing it just because she's never had a weight problem?
I've never had a significant weight problem, but took the time to educate myself on nutrition and exercise. I do have good advice to offer. Honestly, if people choose to dismiss it because of my weight... they're wrong.

^^^^ This! :happy:

You don't have to have a driver's license to be a great mechanic, either.... let that blow someone's mind.

But she's not starving herself. She asked if she was not eating enough based on a calculation...but she ate all day - healthy stuff - and practically forced herself to eat a sandwich because she was going off some arbitrary number that made her sick.

The skinny person in question knows what she's talking about. Did you even bother to open the thing she linked to or just dismissed it out of hand? I don't even get why her being skinny has anything to do with it. She's healthy - who wouldn't want to listen to someone who's healthy?

Can you ever admit if you might be wrong?

But she's not starving herself. She asked if she was not eating enough based on a calculation...but she ate all day - healthy stuff - and practically forced herself to eat a sandwich because she was going off some arbitrary number that made her sick.

The skinny person in question knows what she's talking about. Did you even bother to open the thing she linked to or just dismissed it out of hand? I don't even get why her being skinny has anything to do with it. She's healthy - who wouldn't want to listen to someone who's healthy?

Can you ever admit if you might be wrong?

Wait - was this discussion here on MFP?

No but I was a part of it where it happened. I don't like it when people take to another place to slam someone. The discussion should have stayed there...but it didn't and now it's here. She wants affirmation that she was right - that's why she's here and not doing the discussing with the people that asked the question and the skinny chick.

But she's not starving herself. She asked if she was not eating enough based on a calculation...but she ate all day - healthy stuff - and practically forced herself to eat a sandwich because she was going off some arbitrary number that made her sick.

The skinny person in question knows what she's talking about. Did you even bother to open the thing she linked to or just dismissed it out of hand? I don't even get why her being skinny has anything to do with it. She's healthy - who wouldn't want to listen to someone who's healthy?

Can you ever admit if you might be wrong?

Wait - was this discussion here on MFP?

No but I was a part of it where it happened. I don't like it when people take to another place to slam someone. The discussion should have stayed there...but it didn't and now it's here. She wants affirmation that she was right - that's why she's here and not doing the discussing with the people that asked the question and the skinny chick.

Damn. This just got real

But she's not starving herself. She asked if she was not eating enough based on a calculation...but she ate all day - healthy stuff - and practically forced herself to eat a sandwich because she was going off some arbitrary number that made her sick.

The skinny person in question knows what she's talking about. Did you even bother to open the thing she linked to or just dismissed it out of hand? I don't even get why her being skinny has anything to do with it. She's healthy - who wouldn't want to listen to someone who's healthy?

Can you ever admit if you might be wrong?

Wait - was this discussion here on MFP?

No but I was a part of it where it happened. I don't like it when people take to another place to slam someone. The discussion should have stayed there...but it didn't and now it's here. She wants affirmation that she was right - that's why she's here and not doing the discussing with the people that asked the question and the skinny chick.

Damn. This just got real

I don't think someone who has always had healthy eating and exercising habits is the best person to give her opinion about weight loss, when she probably has no idea what it's like to love calorie-heavy food, have binge issues etc.

You are jumping to some pretty unsupportable conclusions there....the fact that someone *can* control their urges does not mean they do not have strong urges!

Considering that the way to lose weight and maintain the weight loss is precisely "healthy eating and exercise habits" - yeah, seems to me that's a pretty solid person to listen to.

Well here's something to chew on....

I think folks who gain excessively and lose are extremists. There's no middle ground. We gain a ton of weight, go on diets or change our lifestyles and lose it, then gain again.

Also, I've witnessed many of us heavier folks become addicted to exercise or gasp; run 5K's!

Addicted to food, addicted to exercise....

Don't hear this as much with thinner folks who have maintained a healthy weight all of their lives.

I am going to say this. I am one of those skinny people in question here. I agree with the hungry/full signals which lead to a "Starvation diet" which confuses your brain signals and trains your body to store weight when you eat too little because your body fears not getting food and treats it like our evolved reaction to winter prior to our luxuries. I was taught by dieticians that you should NEVER go below 1800 cals a day when I worked as a CNA unless you are bedridden, which is like minimum of 1400 cals.

I was taught that portion control is the size of two of your fists together (palm to palm) which is the size of a normal stomach, or you will stretch your stomach and it will take longer to get full when I worked at 24 hour fitness. It is better to eat your 1800 cals in "eat like a bird" portions.

I have intestinal problems, and I get a belly, not because of food, but because of inflammation. That is why I am here monitoring my health and food intake to see what I eat that causes it.

Now, I won't claim I know your struggle, and I won't claim that it is your hereditary that causes or doesn't cause overweightness, and I won't claim that you don't have thyroid problems or estrogen problems or what not. My half sister and my full blood sister both struggle with their weight, and my full blood brother is forever skinny, and I am average ranging from size 5-9 US sizes. My half sister seemed to have gained her weight from the estrogen in the pills. She fights with it every day. I can't help her for the same reason as the OP. If I try to, I put her on the defensive.

What I do know, as a woman, we have a sexual dimorphism that has women convert their food into fat, while men tend to convert more of that food into muscle. I believe this has a lot to do with our evolution and child rearing especially during winter months.

I think at some point women need to become more comfortable with their curves, and only be concerned about the health elements.

I firmly believe that some people just get lucky with an amazing metabolism. I've known people personally who ate ~5000 cals a day, exercised little, and stayed skinny (although whether they are healthy is debatable). Meanwhile, here I am gaining weight on a meager 1500 cals/day. I've always wondered if these lucky people know they are gifted, or if they think overweight people must all be eating 15,000 cals/day. On the flipside, the "skinny woman" mentioned by the OP may have a lifelong eating disorder and believe that the key to staying thin is limiting oneself to 500 cals/day.

The great thing about beliefs is that they're just that: beliefs! If you are interested in researching it, there's plenty of resources (posted here and throughout the science world) letting you know that most everyone has very similar metabolisms. :flowerforyou:

Of course, some people have disorders that affect these slightly (I'm one of them), but I find it curious that you knew that one person was eating 5,000 calories a day. Were you with them 24/7 and weighed all their food? Wow, can I hire you?!

I don't usually respond to people who are being snarky just for sake of it, but I'm just going to point out this: a funny thing happens when you live with a person and/or eat most meals with them. You start to notice portion sizes and food choices. If you are a veteran logger you can estimate calories. That is why I used this symbol "~", which most people understand means "approximately". In other cases, people actually tell you about their eating and exercising habits. My husband is a powerlifter and has friends and training partners who struggle to gain weight (fat or muscle) even on very high calorie diets. I also understand that not all skinny people are healthy, which I already acknowledged above. When I said they are lucky, I meant it in an aesthetic sense, given that thin is the beauty standard in our society. I also understand thyroid disorders as I have both hypo- and hyper- on both sides of my family.

Some skinny girls weren't always skinny and know the struggle, some skinny girls sit on top of the world and wonder why day people can't just be thin. Like it just never crossed their minds. Like how some rich people don't understand why the poor don't just buy more money. There are people who don't appreciate hard work because they've never been subjected to it.

Some girls are skinny, have never been overweight, and are still aware of how people get overweight, and understand their struggles.

^ I agree. People are skinny for a reason, maybe some are aware how to stay a certain weight and what exactly causes them to remain thin (lifestyle/dietary habits). Maybe some, like myself, just want to help and are tired of all the complicated 'advice' online which happens to be in the form of idiots trying to sell things. I hate how people are put-off weightloss by the inundation of information... Fad diets, unsustainable restriction plans, and stuff... It's irritating. Of course no skinny person has the right to say or infer anything along the lines of, "i know better because i am skinny" because that's illogical... just because someone is skinny does not mean that they know anything of substance concerning weightloss.

I think it's good to observe how skinny people live, what they eat, etc.

I think it's good to observe how skinny people live, what they eat, etc.

What if you don't want to be skinny? To me skinny = weak.

I think it's good to observe how skinny people live, what they eat, etc.

What if you don't want to be skinny? To me skinny = weak.

Maybe we should follow fit people then. Getting in position



I apologize to Sara in advance if she finds me in her hibiscus.

Meh.... after they hear how much I have lost I normally win that argument lol.........

Just asking....

Do you think shes never had a weight problem because she watches her diet and works out? I used to be a skinny gal until I wasnt, lol. Ate what I wanted and stayed thin. When I turned 28 things changed. Anyway, my point is, when I realized I had crossed over to the dark side I started to work out. I saw all the skinny girls really working out hardcore. I thought to myself "why are they here, they are skinny". I came to realize they were skinny because they were working for it and always had.

Not all skinny people work for it, like what you said happened to you. Fit people, work for it. My sister was anorexic/skinny her whole life. She never exercised or watched what she ate once, was always shoving candy and junk food down her face, then when she started taking medication for her hyperthyroidism. BAM she ignored the doctor telling her to start eating healthy, she became fat and lazy and sits there eating VLCD shakes wondering why they aren't making her look like a model. Same thing happened with my brother only his age cough up with him. Now he always says, he can't eat ice cream without his butt inflating. As well as a friend of mine who is still skinny at 35 and eats hungry jacks all day everyday and can't even go for a walk, go up a flight of stairs or lift a few KG weights without complaining its too hard. I guess we are all different.

Skinny doesn't = healthy. Which is how i looked at this. I think when looking at someone who is fit and healthy i'd take there advice over someone who is skinny just as i would take advice from someone who has lost a lot of weight and has maintained for years. Then again i don't want to be skinny. I want to be fit like an athlete again. =D

....I didn't realize anorexic was a look. I was under the assumption it was an eating disorder. Also, I think basing someone purely on looks for fitness level can be deceiving. I hate when people call me skinny just as much as I hated being called fat.

Just asking....

Do you think shes never had a weight problem because she watches her diet and works out? I used to be a skinny gal until I wasnt, lol. Ate what I wanted and stayed thin. When I turned 28 things changed. Anyway, my point is, when I realized I had crossed over to the dark side I started to work out. I saw all the skinny girls really working out hardcore. I thought to myself "why are they here, they are skinny". I came to realize they were skinny because they were working for it and always had.

Not all skinny people work for it, like what you said happened to you. Fit people, work for it. My sister was anorexic/skinny her whole life. She never exercised or watched what she ate once, was always shoving candy and junk food down her face, then when she started taking medication for her hyperthyroidism. BAM she ignored the doctor telling her to start eating healthy, she became fat and lazy and sits there eating VLCD shakes wondering why they aren't making her look like a model. Same thing happened with my brother only his age cough up with him. Now he always says, he can't eat ice cream without his butt inflating. As well as a friend of mine who is still skinny at 35 and eats hungry jacks all day everyday and can't even go for a walk, go up a flight of stairs or lift a few KG weights without complaining its too hard. I guess we are all different.

Skinny doesn't = healthy. Which is how i looked at this. I think when looking at someone who is fit and healthy i'd take there advice over someone who is skinny just as i would take advice from someone who has lost a lot of weight and has maintained for years. Then again i don't want to be skinny. I want to be fit like an athlete again. =D

If she stuffed her face she wasn't anorexic, which is a mental disorder. If she wasn't throwing it up later, she wasn't bulimic either. People really need to choose more appropriate adjectives and stop being so careless with their vocabulary.